I didn't reread the whole thread, but who said hippy's started electronic music?

I remember one time years ago, sitting in a park smoking a J with a guy I new who was metis (half indian/half french), as we are talking he says, out of the blue, "white power man, white power all the way!"
I'm dumb founded, I turn to him and say something like "Are you a total DUMBASS"
He answers "My papa taught me that and that's how it is"
So he has chosen to be a slave, he was taught, yes, but he chooses to continue to believe, beyond any rational reason.

My little sister said to me recently that the difference between me and her is that I believe in bad ppls,and she doesn't.
I don't think she's right, but I do believe that someone aware of their choices, chosing to be "BAD" be treated as such.
I think respect (like love) is a two way street, pretending that humanity is "all good" doesn't make it so, only a meager 6000 years of recorded history to back that up.

The origonal "sun sign" was refered to by the irish as the 4 L's Love,Luck,Light,Life
It is a universal symbol found in every corner of the world, representing the unfolding of the solar system
A strong, powerful, symbol.

I don't know this story and hate uninformed witch hunts, but "minding your own business" didn't work for preventing rapes or wife/child abuse, probably a bad idea with racism.
Hate does exsist, and pretending it'll go away cause everything is all good, well that's chosing to be ignorant.

BUT I do agree that fighting hate with hate is NOT the answer.

Coarse, A little red, Lacking in polish ;)

Always great parties, but especially this one.
Awesome line-up,
Of coarse I'll be there

I heard that there was a law that if your horse is stolen from the inn they have to buy you a new one.

Tandy 1000 hx, good times, good times, I started on a coco 2, lol
And I luv macs, got both.

LOL - I definitely don't vote andre as dictator, but...

K so no one wants a RAVE-O-Lution

I guess I'm a thread killer

I second the motion, andre for president, who else is in?

Andre 4 president, hmmm...
We use to always talk about the party party, a pretty good idea.
Start a political party called the party party.
Throw fundraisers, political parties (ya you got it RAVES)
Platform:partying
Advantages; 1)tickets are tax deductable 2) police can't break up a political gathering
I'm sure we'd even get tonnes of votes by all those ppls who don't vote cause they party too much ;)

Farmers have had to buy new seeds each year for almost as long as I've been alive. Hybrids as well don't produce viable seeds.

Yeah name calling time;- Yur bitter?

Wow, LOL is an understatement.

I think moderation is the key ;)

If it is real are you still paranoid?
What if everyone IS out to get you?
lol

Probably as in she started typing her message before mine was posted, thus she wrote the same thing with out prior knowledge.
Shouldn't be too hard for a rocket sturgeon to wrap his gills arround!
Lol, yur right it's fun being bitter some times, lol

I've known sofia for a while now, I must say that I agree with you Zed, sofia is a very intelligent person. She thinks for herself. My respect for her has soared through the roof since her last 10 or so posts.
:D thanks for your incite Moondancer :D

Twilight zone time, lol
One of those silly spiritual coincidences :D
And I prefer Wyrd, definition;- [ en.wikipedia.org ]
More accurate. :D

I've read reports from the british institute of para-physical reaseach(I'm not sure of the name, It was a long time ago, bad memory)begining at the turn of the century.
I have my "theories" on how, I'm afraid to mention them because I might be told I'm clinicly insane, irational or that I've taken too many drugs, great arguments from self confessd rationalists.
I guess I couldn't resist, I luv discussions like this.
( I personally believe it has something to do with the inverted dimensions as suposed by the string theory or M theory)

PLUR is out
Hate is in?
Glad I'm not "IN"
Just trying to be me.

lol - Thanks for the answer, and not one, yur an idiot, so thanks for showing mew a little of your vision of reality.
It's kinda cool this thread turned like this but it's a shitty thread, I'm out, I hope it dies, I don't think anyone else needs to read the first 10 pages, we can talk about this else where.

Shit I'm in such a bitch tonight, I'd probably argue that modern science IS magic to the common man, I tried to explain some of my questions on quantum physics and atomic theory on the week end and he started throughing insults about how logical I was and how I'd done to many drugs, I tried to explain that my drug use has little to do with atomic theory, but for him it's fantasy or "magic" to think even that molecules are mostly air, not very advanced for a self confessed rationalist.
BTW can anyone explain to me scientificaly why my hand doesn't pass through the table? (both being more nothing than something)

lol, that would be pretty judgemental of you towards some one you've never conversed with, maybe I'm observant.

Do I know you?

Which comment are you talking about, I'm not sure what you find ridiculous.
I know you have lots to say... don't know how well you listen.
Hard to do both.

LOL,
I try not to lie, I'm crazy, I always figured knowing gives me an advantage,
That woman crazy, men stupid thing is just the only way I've found to say woman are crazy without being hit
LOL

Shoulda played stupid, you just lost the chance to be with any girl who read that :P

I'll play stupid and not say I don't beleive men lie "more", but then again, guys don't cruz me, for very long.

You know for years the psy "scene" has (largely) avoided [ rave.ca ] has held parties instead of raves, and the users of rave have laughed at the psy scene.
Now over the last six months the psy-ppls have been signing up to rave in record numbers, me included.
Since I'm here, I've learned that psy is not the only "scene" in trouble.

Is it maybe this infighting between scenes that's killing us all?
Isn't this infighting against the "Ideals" of the electronic music scene?

P-L-U-R

One of the founding principals, the spirit if you will of our common comunities.

Maybe that is the spirit that will save us all from extinction, imagine a world where ravers are trashed more than hippies, where we all become "freaks"

Maybe we can avoid this by finding the noble spirit of our founding;

So I wish everyone

Peace

Love

Unity

and Respect

Maybe we aren't dinosaurs yet.

Men are stupid
Women are crazy
My 2 cents

Yur pretty closed minded and judgemental, or is it just me?

nope, try again

LOL, that's a pretty limited vision

Actually speed, never, E twice, not frequent use for a 31 YR old.

You didn't even list a Psychedelic

science is about imperirical data to prove physical phononemen, no?
[ en.wikipedia.org ]

Philosophy is about questions
Science is about prooving things

LOL you read the proceeding posts?

Bravo!! 2 points moondancer, We never talk in person about stuff like this, on our next visit to the carre, p-e

Full-on=speed, am I missing something?

Doesn't speed and light sticks belong at a club, not a psy-party?

So then logically, we can't measure everything, so science is limited to the messurable and will never provide the all answers.

but pie is an inexact number. irrational, we can estimate, but estimation is not truely logical

So give me the EXACT radius and EXACT circumference of the circle of your choosing

So when is science forthcomming with the circle squared?

Rationality proves the limits of logic, yet all thees self confessed "logical" pppls claim that science will be able to explain everything, mesure everything, proove it.

And the world that exsisted had nothing to do with the beatnicks, or the hippies or the acid tests?
Electronic music would have been acceptable by a pre 60's world or even concived by?
I would not want to be in a reality that followed the same pattern as the 50's 40's and 30's without that hippy tangent.
I really don't get the comment on how hippies hurt enviromental awareness, they started the ball rolling and now it's their fault that ppls don't understand?
shit I must be stupid

Does that go against your ideals?

LOL, so I'm not wrong