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The "i Love Mush" Thread
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 2:12pm
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Yeah, I do love mush. It can be soo many things...a catalyst for the imagination, an expander of counsciousness, a revealer of hidden beauty, a voyage into the further reaches of the mind, an ego-killer, a great substance for music appreciation and dancing, a self-therapy session, a giggle-fest, a purely enjoyable trip, I could go on and on...

And what's more, it's possibly the least harmful drug, think about it...

-it's not physically addictive nor likely to cause psychological dependence (most people have decreased desire to use the next day)

-there are no physical comedown or day after effects

-its nearly impossible to overdose

-no evidence of any harm to the brain or body

-it is not tolerance building (assuming you wait a few days between doses)

-indigenous communities in which shamanism and mushroom consumption is an integral part of beleifs have LOWER incidence of mental illness then western, non-shamanic societies

ps. if anyone wishes to dispute me on any of the points above I can give you so many references you'll be choking on them

ps. I LOVE MUSH!!!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Whatee_Guye replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 2:21pm
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If you get caught with mush, its considered attempted murder. But thats not my point, i used to do a lot of mush, i mean a lot. And all of those things you described evntually stopped happening for me. Now if i take mush it hardly does a thing to me but taste bad.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 2:31pm
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Mush can be fun...only on those wicked summer nights with clear skies and with a large space to explore.

Only problem is it always hurts my stomach and i just want it to go away...then violent thoughts flutter into my mind. Like last time i thought i murdered kira.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 2:35pm
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Can you reference your first point?

"As a good psychedelic should, psilocybin, psilocin and psilocybian mushrooms have low toxicity -- in tests with mice, doses up to 200 mg of psilocybin/kg of body (in average human terms (65 kg) 13 grams) have been injected intravenously without lethal effects. The ED50 : LD50 ratio is 641 according to the NIOSH Registry of Toxic Effects; compare this with 9637 for vitamin A, 4816 for LSD, 199 for aspirin and 21 for nicotine. Poisoning, at least physically, is thus not a problem"

[ www.shroomery.org ]

As for tolerance...

"There is a short period of tolerance after Mushroom use. Using Mushrooms two days in a row is likely to lead to a diminished experience the second day, though spaced 5-7 or more days apart, this effect is nearly non-existent."

-Erowid, [ www.erowid.org ]

"Tolerance builds up rapidly with mushrooms. For 24 hours after a trip you have to take twice as much to repeat the same effect. Tolerance lasts about three to four days."

[ www.thegooddrugsguide.com ]

I'm not discounting your experience, if you can provide any reference that contradicts the above I'd like to see. But I'm defintely going to look into the issue of tolerance, thanks for bringing it up.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 4:05pm
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I dunno about that "no permanent brain damage" thing, because I for one spent at least 2 months AFTER the "under the tunnel" incident getting 2-3 major halucinations an hour, slowly slowing down to one a day. Even now, at least once every 2-3 days I see something really, REALLY fucked up. And don't get me started on walking in a forest. I went for a walk in the woods behind my place on sunday. 5 minutes into walking into the woods sober, I started hearing voices and seeing things moving out the corners of my eyes.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mali replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 4:26pm
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If you do enought of it for a while.. the damage can stay for a long time and you can get these "flash backs" like Fred mentioned.

I loved mush, it was great.

Its weird.. when some people do it.. and they get a bad trip, they never touch it again.

So like I said, I loved it, it was fun to experienced and I have learned some things about myself, and had had some laughs, and funny stuffed happened.. scary stuff.. i could bascally be who I wanted.. there was paranoia.. and many adventures.. but

NEVER NEVER AGAIN!! Not for a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong time....
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cactain_steef replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 4:30pm
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haha last time i was sposed t buy mush, i got corrupted into doing mdma... he he"corrupted"
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 4:41pm
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The experience of "flashbacks" is not an indicator of brain damage. Anyone who has experienced an exetrememly traumatic or disturbing event can experience intense flashbacks. Bad trips can be so traumatic as to induce flashbacks.

Then again, it has not been conclusively proven that flashbacks aren't a result of brain damage. Its just that no form of brain damage from psychedelics has ever been found as of yet, and there is a very plausible psychological explanation for flashbacks.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lady replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 5:03pm
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it tastes so bad!!!! !
makes me wanna cry
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 5:07pm
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I never understood the whole bad taste thing. They don't taste bad, they just taste diffrent. I found it just tastes like stale popcorn. And I hate the taste of "regular" mushrooms, but I'd eat them it it tasted like shrooms. It isn't that bad.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lady replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 5:11pm
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ewwwwwwww just thinking about it makes me wanna throw up
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 5:16pm
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yeah, personally i don't mind the taste at all

you wanna taste something really bad? try san pedro. i've tried it 3 times, and 2 out of the 3 times I threw up just from the taste
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 5:19pm
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Hell, most of the time my cooking tastes worse than shrooms.

It's all about perspective. It doesn't taste bad, your just told it does, so you don't like the taste. It's like a skunk's smell. It's not a bad smell. It's strong as hell, but it's not bad. Just diffrent than what we're used to. People are afraid of things that are diffrent or unknown, and as a result decide that it's "bad".
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 5:37pm
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I can't stand shrooms
Like u don't give Obelix the magic potion u don't gimme shrooms
Had too much of those before ...

It reveals my darkest sides and i'm rarely ready to face those these days

Gimme some good l.s.d . and i'm down anytime thought :)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lady replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 5:52pm
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fred you almost burnt down your kitchen
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flatlinedive replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 6:00pm
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it almost killed me once
i hate mush
it brings my worst nightmares to life
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 6:02pm
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I hear that Danielle

No worries
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flatlinedive replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 6:06pm
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:)
how's it going mr. soon to be daddy?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 6:17pm
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I know it sounds strange, but I value bad trips just as much, if not more, than good ones

yes, mushrooms have the potential to bring out your worst fears, your darker side

but if you allow that side to come out, I think you can learn so much about yourself and emerge better as a result

on my 2nd to last mushroom trip, an intensely beautiful experience took a dark turn when a stranger approached me and asked if I was okay, clearly worried

his worry became my worry, multiplied a thousand times over. I literally was convinced I had lost complete control of myself, I was sure I had pissed and shit in my pants (neither of which was true) and that this would never end, I was insane, I would wake up in a hospital locked in a sterile room with doctors looking at me through a video monitor and shaking their heads.

and yet, this was my best experience with mushrooms.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flatlinedive replied on Tue Oct 21, 2003 @ 6:24pm
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i understand what you're saying, there's always alot to be learned from the darkness inside you
but this kind of nightmare is too much for me to handle.
hallucinogens in general are just way too intense for me
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