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Why Is Ff (firefox) Sometime Acting Like A Bitch
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Tue Aug 16, 2011 @ 4:41pm
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because it look out for you so YOU'RE (myself included) the bitch!

[ tombuntu.com ]

Firefox 3 Excessive Disk IO and Freezing
Published in May 7th, 2008
Posted by Tom in tips

Randomly while browsing Firefox will stop responding for a few seconds and recover. This can happen a few times in a row while my hard drive works so furiously that other applications also slow down. I haven’t found a reliable way to reproduce the problem, but today I did get around to finding the bug report.

An update should be arriving soon that will fix this problem. In the meantime, if you’re affected you can try a workaround. [update] The update has arrived this morning.

In Firefox, click Edit->Preferences. In the Security section, uncheck the two boxes for attack site and forgery warnings. Close Firefox. Open your file browser to ~/.mozilla/firefox/[profile], where [profile] will be a short random string of characters. Delete any files with names starting with urlclassifier.

uncheck the two boxes for attack site and forgery warnings

Be advised that this workaround will disable Firefox’s warnings for phishing and malicious websites. Re-enable the warnings when the update to the package xulrunner-1.9 arrives, which should fix the issue.

The problem is caused by Firefox’s urlclassifier database, which can get very large. Because the cache for this database is too small, there’s a lot of disk and CPU usage at certain times when accessing it.

I’ve done the workaround, but it’s hard to say whether it’s working because the problem comes and goes randomly.

[update] The update hasn’t fixed the problem for me. However, I’ve had only one brief random freeze, so maybe the issue has been minimized.


I was getting fucking furious at my freezing processes and with the performance of my system and the task I thought were ongoing, I thought there was some bad RAM or HDD. So I loaded the Resource Monitor *kiss the screen where the software is displayed* toggling on the Disk section and it showed a process in FF cache subfolder, meaning an addond/extension, urlclassifier was writing a lot, especially sqlite-journal & sqlite.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Tue Aug 16, 2011 @ 4:45pm
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Because Firefox sucks.
They're not even using an actual firefox as a mascott.
Huge Gaping holes.

I use Chrome, wich rocks.
And Opera is pretty damn cool too.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Max_x2 replied on Tue Aug 16, 2011 @ 5:26pm
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Originally Posted By MOLOCH

Because Firefox sucks.
They're not even using an actual firefox as a mascott.
Huge Gaping holes.

I use Chrome, wich rocks.
And Opera is pretty damn cool too.


I was actually thinking about switching to Chrome or Opera. Firefox is using to much ressources (between 180 and 300 MB or RAM, which is fucking non-sense).
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kuzutetsu replied on Tue Aug 16, 2011 @ 5:30pm
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I use K-Meleon, Opera & SRWare Iron and sometimes....yea Firefox
but K-Meleon is defenatly my fav internet browser :)
it is also the one using the less RAM.
and Opera latest version is the fastest to load almost any page :)
and it tells you how many items it is loading wich is pretty cool ^^
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Max_x2 replied on Tue Aug 16, 2011 @ 5:49pm
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Opera is using as much RAM as FF in my case, with the same tabs opened.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Tue Aug 16, 2011 @ 7:52pm
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see [ www.filterjoe.com ] for WHY!

1. Chrome 5
2. Opera 10.53
3. Firefox 3.6.4
4. Safari 5
5. Internet Explorer 8 (IE8)

the author concludes saying having a widescreen with FF was getting on his nerves so he switched to Chrome.

for myself, security is issue #1, having great add-ons is #2. addons

For people who are uneasy about Google’s data collection but still want Chrome’s benefits, there are nearly identical alternatives that don’t collect user data, such as SRWare Iron


Recent versions of Opera take up a lot of memory when many tabs are open.


My average tab count over time is about 20 ; sometimes little sometimes a lot but mostly around my average.

With no add-ons installed, Opera and Chrome are both faster, more secure, and less cluttered than Firefox.


It is not yet clear whether Safari is more secure, but Apple’s approval system for extensions will reduce the chance of security issues arising from rogue extensions.
Update » DynV wrote on Tue Aug 16, 2011 @ 8:08pm
IE8 is a good browser, and it is vastly better than its slower and dangerously insecure predecessors. But it is ranked last because it is slower, less flexible, and less standards compliant than the competition.

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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Max_x2 replied on Tue Aug 16, 2011 @ 8:07pm
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Originally Posted By DYNV

see [ www.filterjoe.com ] for WHY!

1. Chrome 5
2. Opera 10.53
3. Firefox 3.6.4
4. Safari 5
5. Internet Explorer 8 (IE8)

the author concludes saying having a widescreen with FF was getting on his nerves so he switched to Chrome.

for myself, security is issue #1, having great add-ons is #2. addons

My average tab count over time is about 20 ; sometimes little sometimes a lot but mostly around my average.


Anyway, flash and java is the devil in a browser lol. I'll try srware iron and give somme feedbacks ;)
Update » Max_x2 wrote on Tue Aug 16, 2011 @ 8:18pm
same tabs openned, FF is taking 240 MB RAM, Iron 180. Lightning fast page rendering. Think i found my new browser, thanks DYNV =)

Also, Iron's processes are separated in the task manager, instead of being regrouped in one (like firefox, opera, etc). Don't really know why it shows 6 process, while i have 4 tabs opened tho, maybe someone could tell me why. But it's still faster and uses less ressources =)
Update » Max_x2 wrote on Tue Aug 16, 2011 @ 8:42pm
nevermind the question, it's the app, my 4 tabs and a flash pluggin ;)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 1:43am
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I just reread my post and something the IE8 highlight hit me: less standards compliant ; so that a big FUCK YOU! and I'll remake my priorities:
# security
# standards compliant
# great add-ons
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 2:23am
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to answer the question :

probably because you havent put in the addy bar "about:config" , search of dom.ipc and prevent plugin container from being enable, and second , because since a few versions , they send your traffic to their dedicated servers for spying up on your ass , and everybody for that matter by doing the biggest scam in history . games or debbuggers usually need 4 open remote ports to inter operate, in that case spy user habbit , that they will gladly deny , but really since about 2-3 version they open 4 ports and link to certain web entities for YOU security as a DRM supporter.
*im using sarcasm in the last bit, but its for stressing my idea about it and what i seen it do.*

but isp and analytic agents do way worse ploying scripts tru the mmc remote script console and other shitty opened by default in winblows and flash.

so since a livecd doesnt askup as much , my concen and suspicion would turn toward adobe and the os compagny probably tripping balls over all that net copiyng and want to legally do their evil biddings spofed masterclassly tru many entities disguised as quality assuring bs , and have ppl nark on you cuse they seen it in their work, imo thats the new future of technological feodalage.

all big corp in the computer world eventually turn against his users , and i blame the military / govt gestapo/.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 6:42am
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i have serious problems with FF and flash players they crash all of FF sometimes...i tried to fix it but no luck
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 12:38pm
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Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD

to answer the question :

probably because you havent put in the addy bar "about:config" , search of dom.ipc and prevent plugin container from being enable, and second , because since a few versions , they send your traffic to their dedicated servers for spying up on your ass , and everybody for that matter by doing the biggest scam in history . games or debbuggers usually need 4 open remote ports to inter operate, in that case spy user habbit , that they will gladly deny , but really since about 2-3 version they open 4 ports and link to certain web entities for YOU security as a DRM supporter.


I haven't read any of the stuff from which you now know about these things. I don't understand much of that, can you explain or post documentation (specific URLs) ?

Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD

my concen and suspicion would turn toward adobe and the os compagny probably tripping balls over all that net copiyng and want to legally do their evil biddings spofed masterclassly tru many entities disguised as quality assuring bs


I'm unsure about that. any documentation on that?

Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD

all big corp in the computer world eventually turn against his users , and i blame the military / govt gestapo/.


corporations do suck up to government spying agencies and in return they likely get a massive detailed commercial databases avoiding marketing costs and access to dirt low credit avoiding interest costs.

I guess companies have the choice of being moral and live with ordinary people problems or be immoral and join the corporate club.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 1:17pm
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open dos prompt , cmd

c:\netstat -n
c:\netstat

then open firefox empty no address

c:\netstat -n
c:\netstat

again, notice your nowhere (no addy) and firefox opens 4 ports to local machine as an escalated obfucated "secure" port. using the multicast smurf thechnique

i cant provide docs as i would flood the channel and that I researched on it from my years of experience on computer state monitoring. start with that , if you need more just subscribe to get your certified ethical hacker certification , or no , and just read everything out there.

try the command first youll see.

pending process and process obfucation is now a very popular mean of slowdown by isp and drm consortium ,as the isp directly will react as an anti virus to any abuse means. i seen more ips at bell attacking everybody by slowing them down and litterally injecting bad packets than any porn site wishes to do. homework it as i still cherrish my life in this *free* world.

cuz tell me how can i dump 4 os , in two different epoch each so you can collide with whats happenning , i seen this through my work and see these corp plots everyday , if you dont think mac and flash and adobe are cancer that will kill the expandable computer platform , id gladly open your eyes but there isnt enough memory in this thread , let alone the server.

the legal problem we are now all facing , that enable this , is that anything connected to a network must abide to its rules and anybody who does , accept to be readjusted as everybody on this server by the administrators. witch enables a 3 country away server , make local changes to your machine as you are an extent of their network. money talks.

tune in drop out is a perfect survival trick

and if you need to know why i did take the 4 port thing : jsut look at networked command and conquer games , if you want to play localy with your firends on your switch EVERY ones of them must enable 4 ports (1234 1235 1236 1237) to open bidirectionnal communication . anything less compromise it.

shure the engine in fire fox could be just to multi spawn the process so they cant be taped, but could be circumvented to on top of them pass traffic the same way as a poisoned dllhost.exe file.
anyways i said way too much already , i provided keywords serch them if you need proof as anytime i provide links ppl starts bitchin. plus im not your personnal teacher or legal adviser unless i get something. so meanwhile enjoy what i have to say if you see what you want.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 2:20pm
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Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD

i cant provide docs as i would flood the channel and that I researched on it from my years of experience on computer state monitoring. start with that , if you need more just subscribe to get your certified ethical hacker certification , or no , and just read everything out there.


can't you paste a few (read more than 2 and less than a dozen) pertinent URLs? and don't point to a whole freaking 25 pages chapter that I'd have to read all to gather 2 interesting paragraphs.

not everyone interested in technology share your vast knowledge nor religious interest in the matter. a few generalities would be most welcomed.
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 3:54pm
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I've currently using Chrome 15 Dev and Firefox 6 Beta and I must say I rarely open Firefox these days. Chrome opens 3 times faster upon reboot, uses less resources and nowadays features just about the same extensions I used with FF.

All the betas Mozilla has been releasing as of late are all pretty much identical from my perspective. No real improvement from one version to another. Memory-wise, they use about the same yet Chrome is a lot more stable and a lot faster to operate. I can't seem to convince myself to uninstall FF out of habit I guess but it should come soon.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 6:27pm
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nothing religious about it , you learn how to use the tool to analyse it by analysing my sentences and looking up the tools that are called how i type them .

my reference that isnt 15 page long entire chapter to comprenhend an entire working is typed as is above.
neko is refence.

and like i said you want more you get the god damn CEH certification. why is it slower than before is what you asking : because shit in shit out , is the trade saing and if you didnt feed the bull then you have to start looking around and ask could be this or that . try instead of just asking written proofs. see them at work yourself its worth way more
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 6:32pm
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Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD

neko is refence.



^^GOLD
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 6:36pm
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when you will look at my synopsis agaisnt your finding along your technologyu comprehension along you searching up the keywords and your suspicion define as a real name in the field then youll have a good statistic of whats around. to validate your truth .

guy wants a lightning course of 25 y span in 60sec , and tells me to provide link.. of what exactly , use google , to look at words not the undocumented problem in itself. its call reverse eng. or putting the peices together.

read these once in a while ; [ www.us-cert.gov ]

and [ eff.org ]

plus a millions other exploits sites online ...

and dont worry i try to get a camera to record everything but sometime there isnt enough batt you know, not like i dont try

you know what happen to ppl who post to much , they usually get a seize a deceist letter or you dont hear from them anymore , so if your looking for an actual " face book is fucking me over read here how " it wont happen . and a ref is the guy who tried to break the g4 video per order injected encryption , claim he succeded and never heard from him again, other is the ccc group that leaked the global unlock key for the ps3 and its devices. drm is filtered you wont read it plaintext , if you belive you will then your in the wrong.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 6:47pm
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neko no worries I'm not takin the piss. I just thought that line was brilliant!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 6:49pm
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;D i know i was correcting some part and saw your post so i added the missing content along . dudes you know im all into sharing idea. im just baffled as where to start here.

once you master netstat & netstat -n , or in linux tcpdump & tcpdump -a (forget the switches again so "man tcpdump" to get the manual)

then use your pffilter or somthing along peerguardian , and analyse yourself you io . youll be surprise at whats calling what , and the number of crazy phone homes.

next comes java and flash and all the plugins , try without and with and look at the traffic , do the same for plugins and the browser , you will see cycling odd ipaddresses at datacenter owned mostly by facebook and firefox, wo why then they share all that or start to open ports as soon as you call the login page scripless using plugin like noscript ?. i ask myself this and i got what i typed above , esp after reading virii propagation and cleaning them for years, and remote debugger awareness like i said,. you can real time remote debug without the user knowing . these rootkits are the prime damage occuring to my customers and got me to reseach about them what or how or if it was even real or not.

i was lucking enough to *sense* their apparition in code as a user from being attacked by them , comparing revision and updated and looking at performance, as i victim i looked at my wounds and found them in plain spot using legal features of what my os permited. and like the big corps sampling everybody i sampled my customer pool , and my own experience and i got truth.
Update » cutterhead wrote on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 7:10pm
the part about being sarcastic is YOU as a DRM supporter. everything before i stay up to my words its whats happenning.
Update » cutterhead wrote on Wed Aug 17, 2011 @ 7:15pm
granularity precision downgrade is another issue as well...
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