Hardware Or Software ?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Papine replied on Thu Aug 20, 2009 @ 8:20pm |
 Coolness: 39760 | I'm looking to start producing my own tracks. But everywhere a look it seems there is two different school: some says that software can do whatever hardware can, some says that hardware are essencial?
And you, who already produce, what do you think : Hardware Vs. Software |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mutante replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 12:11am |
 Coolness: 76160 | software all the way
at least start with software and if you REALLY want to keep going then you can think about spend money on hardware i know so much people with dusty amazing studios.... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 12:42am |
 Coolness: 106095 | Both |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 1:48am |
 Coolness: 91370 | For synths, I'd go hardware. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 10:09am |
 Coolness: 152985 | start with software, its not after spending 2000$ on synth and shit that you wanna wake up and seed you dont like producing.
im producing since 8 years now, and i got no hardware! get some referency monitor and a not-so-bad sound card (300$) and then torrent it up! |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» BobGratton replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 11:15am |
 Coolness: 74070 | software all the way when you start. try and do good stuff while spending as little as possible.
do not worry, you will know it when it's time to invest in hardware. it might never even happen! but you will spend money less foolishly and make better use of your gear if you get it only when you actually feel you need it. and no, buying stuff will not increase your motivation/capacity to spend energy into making music. if you really love it, you'll make tracks with whatever you got. also, you will not save time with gear... maybe some CPU but you will not produce faster. of course there are good benefits from gear, like better sounds and possibilities but in the long run just like software, it depends if you are good with the product. a lot of people can get amazing sounds from software synths, just like a lot of people have no clue how to make anything good with a hardware synths. anyways, good luck whatever you do! P.S. that's a very general answer to a very general question, don't flame! :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Papine replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 1:35pm |
| Coolness: 39760 | get some referency monitor and a not-so-bad sound card (300$) About the sound card. I think its better going with external one? Any sugestion with monitor? I'll sure start with software. thanks for the advise. Hardware sure cost a lot. But i'm glad to see we can reach a good sound quality with software. I'm looking to go Mac with Logic. Do you think a laptop can do the job or Desktop is necessery? I want to go with professional equipement. I dont want anything that will lag when I run all the plug-ins and VST. I already have a PC with 3ghz and 1,5 gig ram.. And it run slow Cubase 3 and its laging when I have to many effects on my tracks. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FUCKERS replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 1:42pm |
 Coolness: 89720 | get 3g of ram plus for music man .. unless u run on a mac, and you should cause ur making music lol |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Papine replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 2:08pm |
| Coolness: 39760 | Originally Posted By MUERTESITA
get 3g of ram plus for music man .. unless u run on a mac, and you should cause ur making music lol I'll sure go mac... for music production i know there's nothing better than that. ;P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FUCKERS replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 2:13pm |
| Coolness: 89720 | music and video = mac .. all the rest is left for PCs imo |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mutante replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 2:21pm |
| Coolness: 76160 | if you really are motivated youll make trax on a C64 and a tape deck...
dont worry about what you have, just do it ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BobGratton replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 2:30pm |
| Coolness: 74070 | ^absolutely agrees with Mutante^
I would say the external firewire card Presonus Firebox is most likely in your price range and will be everything you need for a really long time. For monitors, it really depend how much you are ready to spend. And yeah your current machine is shit for making music, that's the first thing you should change. I'm personally against the idea of getting a Mac except if you really never use a computer at all except for making music. First, a good PC with Cubase will do the job perfectly, second, if you wanna download some VSTs illegally, well the PC versions are nearly always cracked first. Some VSTs are simply never cracked for Mac. I don't openly support piracy but really, at 100-500$ per VST, it piles up fast, and right now, you're not even making a penny with your tracks. Also, let's remember, most games and random applications don't work on Mac. Think about it because you'll be stuck with that PC for a while and Macs are SHIT-EXPENSIVE! If you really want the new PC, the new sound card and the monitors altogether, it's alright, but you should consider focusing on practicing and learning rather than spending from there. I know I probably sound really annoying with the "don't spend too much" line today, but seriously, I know too many aspiring producers who actually never became real producers but bought a lot of shit thinking it would allow them to go over what was slowing them down. (and it did not work) I'm just saying I think people should not force on themselves the "producer status" by buying gear. So what kind of music are you gonna produce? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Papine replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 3:09pm |
| Coolness: 39760 | I know I have the motivation, i've always been with music arround me, from playing piano younger and composing my own tracks for a band I use to play, now I decided to produce, music production is far the most interesting thing. Thats why I dont really care about money because I want to start to build my own "studio". I want to go professionnal. I already know how to work on cubase and most VST. I still need pratice on the mastering side thought. But the fact that ive been creating thing for the last 5-6 years give me an idea that im going to do the right things.
Its just that i'm always unsatisfied with the sounds quality, so I want to get the equipement that will help me build nice mastered tracks. I wanna produce Trance/Hard dance track for sure. As what I mix [ www.mediafire.com ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BobGratton replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 3:13pm |
| Coolness: 74070 | Cool. I know exactly how you feel. What I meant was exactly that... mess around long enough to know what you want exactly. Everyone has to move to the real thing at some point! If I can help you out with anything, let me know!
For trance/hard dance... hehe you really don't need gear, that's a good start. High quality samples + the best trance VSTis and you have all you need to sound like the pros out there. :) |
| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 3:51pm |
 Coolness: 83855 | on that note...
i'm gunna say the opposite!!! logic, pro tools or GO THE FUCK HOME. logic is a great way to go because it comes with everything you need right outta the box and a legal student copy with all the manuals/ instuments/ sample banks only costs about $250. the firebox is trash too... if you get a mac get the apogee duet for a little more... it's made for mac and sounds better than anything else thats under $1800. but for real... if thats the way you wanna go... focus on getting the comp and the software first and you'll be up and running. logic will run fine without a crazy sound card and any intel based mac will do the job, you don't really have to spend more for a power book or a tower. a macbook, imac or mini mac are all fine. then put your focus on monitors and a midi controller and you'll be good to go! pro tools is also a good way to go... but it's pretty bare bones out of the box which is why i feel logic gives you the most bang for you buck in terms of what it comes with, min system requirements and upgrade ability. my 2 cents. and please take in mind i dicked around with p.c.'s for years before coming to these conclusions. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 4:11pm |
 Coolness: 86485 | Originally Posted By MUTANTE
if you really are motivated youll make trax on a C64 and a tape deck... dont worry about what you have, just do it ;) QFT ! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BobGratton replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 4:51pm |
| Coolness: 74070 | Originally Posted By MURDOCK_ROCK
logic, pro tools or GO THE FUCK HOME. Actually, I do produce at home! :) But seriously, as much as I'm sure you're right about pretty much everything you've said, I don't think PCs or Cubase deserve all the bad publicity they get. Not anymore anyways. And the Firebox is alright! It's stable, sounds good and is cheap! If you're not recording guitars or stuff like that, you'll be alright! Has enough inputs for most electronic music! I personally use a TC Electronics Konnekt 8, only reason I'm not recommending it is because I was told a lot of people have compatibility issues with it, but I personally don't! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ONE.LAB.RAT replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 6:35pm |
 Coolness: 76120 | Originally Posted By MUTANTE
if you really are motivated youll make trax on a C64 and a tape deck... dont worry about what you have, just do it ;) !!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 7:09pm |
 Coolness: 166525 | you need soft hardware.. get some gear and tape some nerf balls to it..
:p |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ONE.LAB.RAT replied on Fri Aug 21, 2009 @ 8:31pm |
| Coolness: 76120 | malware or underwear? |
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