Cpu Coated With Putty?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Count_Bandit replied on Thu Apr 16, 2009 @ 8:08pm |
 Coolness: 49130 | hi ive got my l computer a new CPU that was supposed to be overclocable and i didnt find a way to make it work properly
but when i remover the old one i saw some kind of grey putty between the chip and the heatsink, what is that thing for? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Thu Apr 16, 2009 @ 8:11pm |
 Coolness: 162470 | Originally Posted By WOLCHE
hi ive got my l computer a new CPU that was supposed to be overclocable and i didnt find a way to make it work properly but when i remover the old one i saw some kind of grey putty between the chip and the heatsink, what is that thing for? Usually you use a special sand/polish paper to make the surface smoother and then apply the putty. It allows for removal of micro airpockets and increases the surface exposed to the heatsink, decreasing the average core temp of a few degrees ... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Apr 16, 2009 @ 8:13pm |
 Coolness: 685560 | the short of it is that it's so your computer doesn't overheat and die.
The thermal compound is there to help transfer heat from the CPU to the heatsink, as there's always microscopic flaws/dents/scratches/etc that makes it so that a CPU is not 100% in contact with the heatsink. The thermal paste fills the holes on the CPU and the heatsink and helps the efficiancy of the heat transfer. DO *NOT* run your CPU without having put new/fresh paste on; at the least you'll have it overheat and shut off, eventually damaging the CPU, and at worst it'll overheat too much too fast and fry. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Count_Bandit replied on Thu Apr 16, 2009 @ 8:20pm |
| Coolness: 49130 | omg! *runs to the computer store* |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Apr 16, 2009 @ 8:23pm |
 Coolness: 339635 | Meh, thermal past is optional.. I've run my CPUs without it plenty of times.. it's far more important to make sure that the headsink/fan is mounted properly.. it should be very tight and not move at all. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Apr 16, 2009 @ 9:11pm |
| Coolness: 685560 | it was only really optional on the older generations of computers (like, sub-1gig)..
here's a review of different thermal pastes so you can get an idea what the best to get (if you go somewhere that has some selection) [ enthusiast.hardocp.com ] (ps, don't put cheese on your CPU, these guys are professionals!) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Magik_S replied on Thu Apr 16, 2009 @ 9:19pm |
 Coolness: 27925 | Thermal paste helps to distribute the heat more evenly but Neoform is right, it's much more important to make sure the fan is monted properly. I have an old alienware system in my basement that overheats when you run it for any length of time because the fan grinds like a lawnmower. Also, thermal paste does help and it is good to have it, if you're going to be overclocking your CPU you'll need every bit of cooling you can get. As well, you should look into computer parts and how everything works together, as well as a knowledge of the physical parts, before you start taking things apart and overclocking things and end up frying your CPU. Good luck. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 2:44am |
 Coolness: 131565 | also called : heat sync compound.
there are special vinyl thermal link, but i forgot what they are called, in emergeny of lacking paste yu open an apliance , look for a heat sync, normally , without unsoldering the transitor but by removing the screw that bond it to the heat sync, youll find a thermal link. dont confuse it with clear "mica" , a thermal link is gray. always opaque gray. vinyl like. thermal compound retails about 50 cent a single shot pouch. hi grade equipment requires , ill still work withou but youll kill the longevity , good work Neoform keep spreading your inexperience on the matter. Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 2:51am i hate ppl who spread bullshit around ; shure they put paste there for nothing , sheesh.
without the paste , the air in between create capacitance , and the heat stays in the processor , eventually killing the layers. Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 2:53am shout out to screwhead by the way :) screwhead is the intelligent one. Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 2:57am fan is useless 10% workload use without thermal compound. eventually your cherrish computer will die sooner than ppl who take more care. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 8:23am |
| Coolness: 339635 | Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD
hi grade equipment requires , ill still work withou but youll kill the longevity , good work Neoform keep spreading your inexperience on the matter. The expert has spoken. Wanna back up your statements? I've run computers plenty of times without thermal compound and its always worked fine, I've never destroyed a CPU, nor has it ever throttled down due to overheating. |
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| Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 12:05pm |
| Coolness: 131565 | wow , your one stubborn mofo , do you even TRY to understand ?
we explain the physics of it. now if your a rich bastard that has air conditonning 24/7 you wont run into this problem. now let the big ppl talk. Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 12:12pm if you dont use heat sync compound under the mosfet / fet / gfet / stk / transitors. YOU WILL KILL IT BY A RATIO OF 1:1000 .
if your using your computer at 10% USAGE FOR SHURE youll wont run into this problem , do the same with all your F keys attributed to terminals , and all them running softs of all the kind YOU WILL BURN YOU PROC DOWN. your a mac user. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 12:45pm |
| Coolness: 339635 | Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD
wow , your one stubborn mofo , do you even TRY to understand ? we explain the physics of it. now if your a rich bastard that has air conditonning 24/7 you wont run into this problem. now let the big ppl talk. You're a retard. You pointlessly attack me for stating something obvious and true, then concede that I wasn't wrong, and talk down to my in the very next sentence, grow the fuck up you tool. |
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| Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 1:36pm |
| Coolness: 131565 | he ask for information, your stating irrelavent personnal experience,
your not directly transfering heat by your method, your just tranfering by induction/capacitance. feel free to destroy your own machine , but dont foul newcomers with your misconceptions. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 2:10pm |
| Coolness: 339635 | Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD
he ask for information, your stating irrelavent personnal experience, your not directly transfering heat by your method, your just tranfering by induction/capacitance. Dude, I never said he shouldn't use thermal paste. I said it wasn't as important as mounting the fan properly. Get that in your tiny fucking head. Thermal paste is optional since it merely enhances the heatsink. Not having the paste does not void the usefulness of the heatsink, and no modern CPU "destroys itself". You can turn your computer on without a heatink and it will immediately throttle down or shut off due to overheating. You need to stop spreading YOUR disinformation and stop slamming others who are stating facts. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 2:15pm |
 Coolness: 201195 | Yeah I think the older AMDs destroyed themselves but modern cpus shut down immediately, seen it happen with someone on this board who I won't mention who didn't mount his fan properly when we were building some systems a while back :D
Too much paste is also a bad thing, you don't want it running down the sides of the chip or anything. However I think it is a good idea to use it. your a mac user.
That's a funny comment, as the systems I have had with the least overheating problems have been macs. I use an imac for christ sake, and I can leave it crunching video on all night and it won't shut down or freeze from overheating. I did get software to jack up the fan speed when I am doing that kind of stuff though, but it definitely beats my old toshiba laptop or even older desktop system which could barely survive a summer day. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 2:37pm |
| Coolness: 339635 | The interior of a Mac Pro is fucking spectacular. It's solid Aluminum and completely compartmentalized. When it's on and running at 100% I can still barely tell if it's on.
Changing hard drives takes less than 30 seconds since they're all slot mounted. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 2:49pm |
| Coolness: 201195 | I was looking at workstation class systems, or the components to build one, since I am doing extremely cpu intensive work now. Oddly, the mac pro was actually one of the cheapest systems in that class. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 2:57pm |
| Coolness: 339635 | My mac pro is definitely the nicest box I've ever bought. 4GB of ECC PC6400 ram cost me a fuckload when i bought it though.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Fri Apr 17, 2009 @ 3:09pm |
 Coolness: 140655 | thermal compound is good in a ham and cheese sandwich... it makes the thermal contact between the cheese and ham much better so that the bread can disapate the heat without wasting any energy... but yeah if you dont mount your sandwich correctly your ham will destroy itslef |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sat Apr 18, 2009 @ 2:30am |
| Coolness: 131565 | Originally Posted By NEOFORM
Dude, I never said he shouldn't use thermal paste. I said it wasn't as important as mounting the fan properly. Get that in your tiny fucking head. Thermal paste is optional since it merely enhances the heatsink. Not having the paste does not void the usefulness of the heatsink, and no modern CPU "destroys itself". You can turn your computer on without a heatink and it will immediately throttle down or shut off due to overheating. You need to stop spreading YOUR disinformation and stop slamming others who are stating facts. HAHA LOOK AT THE CHILD RACE NOW YOU SAID : Originally Posted By NEOFORM
Meh, thermal past is optional.. I've run my CPUs without it plenty of times.. it's far more important to make sure that the headsink/fan is mounted properly.. it should be very tight and not move at all. now clamp your fat mouth of yours with your "Again" disinformal "no modern CPU "destroys itself"" as the saying goes : SHIT IN SHIT OUT (inspired from your birth mind you) GOD! your just giving a race for attention : IF YOU ASSEMBLE JUST ONE PROGRAM WITH A " $ nice -20 " switch YOU WILL DETERIORATE DE LAYERS IF HEAT ISNT TAKEN CARE OF PROPERLY IN THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE COMPUTER AND THE ONE THAT HEATS THE MOST AGAIN , SO STOP DUMING DOWN THE IMPORTANCE OF TAKING CARE OF THIS . SOME PEOPLE KEEP THEIR COMPUTERS MORE THAN A YEAR YOU KNOW. IE THAT GUY ABOVE , IM PRETTY SHURE HE DOENST WANT TO BURN IT , SO WHY " Originally Posted By NEOFORM
Meh, thermal past is optional.. I've run my CPUs without it plenty of times.. it's far more important to make sure that the headsink/fan is mounted properly.. it should be very tight and not move at all. shure tell him to waste the paste and apply maximum pressure on the processor, heh ppl like you should only push buttons , and not talk to others since your just insults and duming down. bravo. the guy wants to over clock , and you only run a STOCK (MAC) machine , again bravo for your ADVICES what ever they were. Update » cutterhead wrote on Sat Apr 18, 2009 @ 2:40am 
this isnt a P90 or a G3 for you, these little components are now to the 15 - 5 nanoscale THEY HAVE TO HAVE COMPLETE HEAT TRANSFR Update » cutterhead wrote on Sat Apr 18, 2009 @ 2:43am AND A GOOD ADVICE WOULD BE USE THE BIGGEST HEAT SYNC POSSIBLE NOT PRESSURE , HAHAHA Update » cutterhead wrote on Sat Apr 18, 2009 @ 2:47am OR A " PELTIER " thermo-couple. RIGED ON THE PROPER SIDE. CAUSE THE WROND SIDE WOULD JUST BURN IT WOULDNT IT ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Apr 18, 2009 @ 10:10am |
| Coolness: 339635 | RED TEXT MEANS ANGRY!
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