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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Wed Oct 22, 2008 @ 1:02pm
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Ok, so would LOGa(x^2/yz^3) = 2LOGaX - 3LOGaY + 3LOGaZ?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Wed Oct 22, 2008 @ 1:08pm
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What's great for a snack,
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Wed Oct 22, 2008 @ 4:52pm
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Originally Posted By NO_COMPLY

Ok, so would LOGa(x^2/yz^3) = 2LOGaX - 3LOGaY + 3LOGaZ?


lol, you said GaY

seriously : it depends whether it's (yz)^3, ie. (y^3 times z^3), or (y times z^3) ; i'll assume it's the first one (ie. the exponent is applied to both y and z)

note that you don't care about the base "a" of the log, since it's always the same.

then you just apply the logarithmic identities :

log(x^2 / (yz)^3) = log(x^2) - log((yz)^3)
= 2log(x) - log((yz)^3)
= 2log(x) - log(y^3 times z^3)
= 2log(x) - (log(y^3) + log(z^3))
= 2log(x) - 3log(y) - 3log(z)

Thus you get the initial equality rewritten as :
2log(x) - 3log(y) - 3log(z) = 2log(x) - 3log(y) + 3log(z)

which you easily simplify as :

-3log(z) = 3log(z)

which you can write :

-6log(z) = 0, ie. log(z)=0

So the answer is yes if and only if log(z)=0 : this can never happen, since logarithms (in any base) have an asymptote whose equation is "x=0", ie. the vertical axis. The asymptote means that it's a limit value that's never actually reached.
Update » flo wrote on Wed Oct 22, 2008 @ 5:15pm
if it's not clear enough : the answer is NO
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Wed Oct 22, 2008 @ 5:28pm
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Wed Oct 22, 2008 @ 5:30pm
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lol
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Thu Oct 23, 2008 @ 10:24am
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Originally Posted By FLO

Thus you get the initial equality rewritten as :
2log(x) - 3log(y) - 3log(z) = 2log(x) - 3log(y) + 3log(z)


I thought that's what i said =p As for not needing the to write the base, i was told to whenever it's given, but i understand why its not important in this case.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Fri Oct 24, 2008 @ 4:41am
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i think there were several words missing in your post but i guess i got what you meant after reading it twice :P

ok so the second half of the proof i wrote is useless for you here, hence the answer to your initial question is yes.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Oct 24, 2008 @ 6:14am
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pie and log. you mathematicians are perverts
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Fri Oct 24, 2008 @ 8:34am
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heheh :)
most indeeeeeeeeeed ! :P
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Fri Oct 24, 2008 @ 10:18am
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Ahhh k, thanks Flo, was confoosed for a sec =]

you mathematicians are perverts

Oh fuck ya, my cocks^9, if ya know what i mean.
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