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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» CHIK replied on Thu Feb 27, 2003 @ 3:37am |
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Spirituality has much to offer the world of politics since many of today's political and economic problems can be viewed at a deeper spiritual level. If we are to attempt to change the outside world, we first have to change ourselves on the inside. For the spiritual approach is to understand that our deepest thoughts manifest in our reality, so in order to change our reality we have to change our thinking. Perhaps this is what Einstein had in mind when he pronounced "problems can not be solved at the level of consciousness that created them." Neal Walshe's series of books "Conversations with God" not only provide a blueprint for achieving peace and prosperity on a personal level, but can also be viewed as a radical Liberal philosophy and strategy. The question arises how do we draw the Liberal politician and liberal person to this collection of writings, who may not themselves be spiritual? For these books I feel has something to offer everyone, and not just those looking for inspiration from God. First, this paper looks at censorship in the media. Those in power have the ability to censor those stories that show our government in a damning light. It may surprise some to discover just how corrupt our government really are. The paper then continues this theme of censorship, to look at science and history. From history, in learning from other cultures' points of view, we learn just how biased is the "history" and "science" taught in school and universities. It may amaze some just how much documented evidence there is of 1) UFOs, and 2) scientific proof of life after death. For a historical point of view, it is important to really learn our real history, however uncomfortable, such as Pearl Harbor, Hiroshima and earlier still such as how Europe came to conquer the Americas. If we are unable to learn of our mistakes then how are we to learn from them in order to avoid making the same mistakes in the future? Once this evidence is reviewed, we are then in a position to return to spirituality, of its very real place in science, and use that 90% of our brains and minds that we do not already use in our working towards a more positive goal of peace and equality for all people. Both the CIA and Russian military and KGB have been successful in utilising ESP and other psychic abilities in their research programmes, and both east and west have recruited shaman as part of these. Now it is time for the population at large to learn of this knowledge, for the benefit of the greater good of the whole. The Media Most people, including our politicians, rely on mainstream media for their daily news. However, just how reliable is the mainstream media, and just how independent are they from the government? Let us start with an interesting article by David Leigh from The Guardian, back in June 2000: "British journalists - and British journals - are being manipulated by the secret intelligence agencies, and I think we ought to try and put a stop to it. The manipulation takes three forms. The first is the attempt to recruit journalists to spy on other people, or to go themselves under journalistic "cover". The second form of manipulation that worries me is when intelligence officers are allowed to pose as journalists in order to write tendentious articles under false names. The third sort of manipulation is the most insidious - when intelligence agency propaganda stories are planted on willing journalists, who disguise their origin from their readers. There is - or has been until recently - a very active programme by the secret agencies to colour what appears in the British press, called, if publications by various defectors can be believed, information operations, or "I/Ops". I am - unusually - in a position to provide some information about its operations." The internet is an amazing tool for uncovering such corruption in the media. However, in protesting about propaganda to my local MP, Dr Vincent Cable, he said he hoped that I would produce evidence from the mainstream press. On commenting that I did not trust the mainstream press because they are so riddled with spies, he agreed and told me that that had been going on for years. One other form of censorship is actively not pursuing stories. Here are a sample for starters 1993 The New York Times reports that the FBI had infiltrated the gang responsible for the bombing of the World Trade Centre, and were in a position to stop the bombing T H E N E W Y O R K T I M E S Thursday October 28, 1993 Page A1 "Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast" By Ralph Blumenthal "Law-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast. The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad Salem, should be used, the informer said." The world of intelligence is indeed murky. So murky in fact that time and again it seems that the government and authorities collude with the terrorists when it suits them. But when the internet is such an effective tool in allowing the public access to such interesting information, it is no wonder that our governments are so threatened by the internet and are so desperate to control it, monitor it and carry out cyber attacks which take down independent news services such as [ www.rense.com ] and [ www.whatreallyhappened.com. ] These are hugely popular alternative news sites and I strongly recommend visiting both on a regular or if possible daily basis. What Really Happened now receives more visits per month than Newsmax. Sometimes our Governments do not need the cover of secrecy, sometimes they just deliberately ignore key evidence in investigations. As John Kaminski writes on the bombing of the Murrah building in Oklahoma: "My favourite preposterous atrocity explanation involved the government's demolition of the Murrah building in Oklahoma. Esteemed General Benton K. Partin delivered an incontrovertible report that explosives attached to five major stanchions inside the building were responsible for bringing the building down, and killing 168, but his expert testimony was ignored and the blame was placed directly on where the power elite intended it to be placed, on American patriots. Of course, the anti-terror legislation had already been written then, too, and was quickly passed with little debate." But in the case of 9-11, the US Government has successfully suppressed an official or independent investigation. Science - From Sub-Atomic Particles to the Universe It is not just the world of politics and propaganda that are highly censored. The scientific approach is to begin with a theory. This can then be tested under controlled experimental conditions, which can be replicated by independent parties. The theory has to be modelled mathematically for this to be objective. However, scientific studies need funding to be undertaken, and if they are undertaken, the results then need to be published. If the scientific studies rock the establishment and current dogma, then they have very little chance of receiving either areas of support. It may come as a surprise to some that scientific proof of life after death has existed for over a century. The Campaign for Philosophical Freedom is the one of the leading sources of information - [ www.cfpf.org.uk. ] As Michael Roll writes: "We have had the experimental proof of survival after death ever since Sir William Crookes published the results of his experiments in the leading scientific journal of his day - The Quarterly Journal of Science" in 1874. These were repeatable experiments under laboratory conditions. International teams of scientists then repeated the experiments and obtained the same results. People who had once lived on earth came back and proved to these scientific teams that they had conquered death and were still very much alive. This is what Professor Charles Richet, the French Nobel Laureate for medical science said about the experiments:- "There is ample proof that experimental materialisations should take definite rank as a scientific fact." Although the mathematics are probably beyond most laypeople, the concept is not too hard to understand when you realise that the most elementary building blocks of matter are pure energy, which are like radio waves which can occur in the same physical space. "As Sir Oliver Lodge and Sir William Crookes were the pioneers of radio and television they were able to put forward a rational explanation to account for the seemingly supernatural phenomena appearing at their experiments. They said this etheric world is the same place as our radio and television signals, but at a much higher frequency. Recent discoveries in quantum mechanics - the study of the building blocks within the atom - completely vindicate what these great physicists said at the beginning of the century. They were adamant that we all survive the death of our physical bodies. The experiments proved that we must possess two bodies. One finite body containing the brain that dies and another infinite body, containing the mind that separates when our short stay on earth is over. Lodge said the people from the "next world" who are appearing at the experiments must possess bodies that are made of the same invisible matter as our radio and television signals. He called it an etheric substance." It is not just the esoteric aspects of science that are censored. When examining the issue of UFOs, many people are willing to accept that the universe being so big, there is a probability of life in another galaxy somewhere. But they make the mistake of assuming that if evidence does exist, then we would be shown it. Not the case. NASA have been filming UFOs for decades, but they refuse to make their footage officially available. The footage was captured by Martyn Stubbs, working for a Canadian cable company and who therefore had access to satellite dishes capable of capturing the unencrypted footage. "I can't tell you what is there, but I can tell you what shouldn't be there." "It's not a matter of finding something, it's more about collecting, studying and analysing. Eventually the jigsaw puzzle will come together." Graham Birdsall, Editor of the British UFO magazine, said: "A handful of astronomers, physicists and scientists have been made privy to some of the footage. "Their common reaction has been one of astonishment and disbelief." This footage was used by the UK UFO Magazine to create the documentary The Secret NASA Transmissions. This was released in 2000 and rightly won a documentary of the year award. Just one thing - it has not been shown on television although it can be purchased from UFO magazine - [ www.ufomag.co.uk. ] As Graham Birdsall explained at the 2002 UFO conference in Leeds, many scientists will not even agree to watch the footage, so how are the public meant to be able to evaluate what the phenomena recorded are? Politicians are no better. I gave a copy of the video to my local MP, and have not received a single word back. My assumption was that I could now prove the Establishment suppress vital information from the public, by providing some of the best video evidence it is possible to own. The reward for this - absolute silence. Terry Hansen, a journalist, in his book "The Missing Times", has written one of the best books on UFO censorship. He explains how and why the elite news organisations work closely with the government agencies during times of national crisis, and reviews the evidence for such media-government collusion over the course of the half-century-long UFO controversy. A New Way of Thinking and a New Way of Teaching One set of books that I have received much wisdom from is the series of Conversations with God, by Neal Walshe. At a low point in his life, Walshe wrote a letter to God asking why his life was so bad an unfulfilled. To his amazement, God answered back. Walshe would write down questions and the answers would somehow come to him, which he then wrote down. The dialogues became international best sellers. In Conversations with God, Book 2, "God" talks about how to improve the educational system. If we force our children to learn "facts", then they we force them to come to the same conclusions we come to, rather than teaching them how to think for themselves and how to investigate issues from all sides to come to their own conclusions. "Do you really think it was necessary to drop the bomb on Hiroshima? What do you think American historians think about the many reports by those who claim to know more about what really happened, that the Japanese Empire had privately revealed to the United States its willingness to end the war before the bomb was dropped? How much of a part did revenge for the horror of Pear Harbor play for the bombing decision? And if you accept that dropping the bomb was necessary, why was it necessary to drop a second bomb? "Your world has run amok. But your world has not run amok because of what you have allowed your schools to teach your children. It has run amok because of what you have not allowed them to teach." "In societies where history is not bent to the views of the strongest and most powerful, the mistakes of the past are openly acknowledged and never repeated, and once is enough for behaviours which are clearly self-destructive." "In societies where critical thinking and problem solving and skills for living are taught, rather than facts simply memorised, even so called "justifiable" actions of the past are held up to intense scrutiny. Nothing is accepted at face value." At this point I should probably point out that God is talking of evolved societies on different planets as well as our own. But then Credo Mutwa teaches of the extra-terrestrial history of Africa, and we can show that we are still being observed in the NASA video footage. It is not just our children we need to teach. I myself am involved in a long-term campaign with the Liberal Democrats, in trying to highlight political and institutional corruption. This is not easy. When you look at what we could have learned from Pearl Harbor, in light of having the internet as a resource for uncovering discrepancies between the official version of 9-11 and what actually happened, I wonder if we are not doomed to make the very same mistakes again with the bombing of Afghanistan and the imminent invasion of Iraq with Bush threatening to use tactical nuclear weapons? At the time of writing, on New Year's Eve 2002 Bush is claiming that an attack on America by Iraq (specifically) will cripple the American economy. An alternative view is that the US Government has already borrowed itself into insolvency (while still finding billions of dollars in aid for Israel but not American schools, hospitals or poor), and hence a fake attack is required to ensure that the American people do not realise what really caused the existing collapse that has already occurred. If politicians moved away from telling people what to think, to really helping them engage and think for themselves, it would have a massive impact, and maybe result in young people such as Ms Dynamite and her friends becoming less alienated. I continually highlight key websites that the Liberal Democrats should link to (since God knows how many supposedly independent think tanks New Labour draw upon). This of course has not happened, but the Lib Dems should certainly link to resource centres such as [ www.whatreallyhappened.com ] - which encourages people to think for themselves, and The Centre for Cooperative Reasearch's Complete 9-11 Timeline - [ www.cooperativeresearch.org ] - which encourages people to do their own research by fully documenting the events leading up to and on September 11th. There is no need to say all the information is true, but it would be great for the Lib Dems to go public on what they tell me privately about our spy riddled media, and become pro-active in counteracting this. spirituality as an Agent For Political Change To recap, I have tried to shown the following 1) There is a phenomenal degree of corruption in our establishment. The agenda of powerful unelected bodies does not serve that of the masses. Part of this agenda is to manufacture terrorist attacks which have the result of inducing fear, and thus enabling our governments to introduce immediately legislation reducing civil liberties while promoting the agenda of corporations and other groups. 2) Our media are censored to the degree that most people remain ignorant of. While the censorship is breathtaking, it is sad that our politicians still appear to be asleep in not asking questions such as the suspicious and unsavoury relationship between Blair and Bush. 3) The censorship and suppression of information is not only in the demain of politics and business. It flows through into science, history and religion. It has succeeded in suppressing scientific proof of the soul and life-after-death, as well as life on other planets. 4) It appears to have succeeded to the extent that our elected representatives in Parliament refuse to contemplate the fact that like Pearl Harbor, the attacks on America occurred not as a surprise, with full prior warning, and there had to be stand-down orders from NORAD in order to avoid the hijacked aircraft being intercepted either by aircraft or ground-defences. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» CHIK replied on Thu Feb 27, 2003 @ 3:37am |
| Coolness: 40945 | SORRY
SO LONG |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Thu Feb 27, 2003 @ 12:09pm |
 Coolness: 472035 | So true and frustrating facts ...
The illuminati conspiracy = control of the masses I was already feeling mad today,thinking about that adds some more ... DAmmit !! Still, Chik, thanks for the thread. *Hugs Chik to help stop the hate in the world* |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ontheroadagain replied on Thu Feb 27, 2003 @ 2:45pm |
 Coolness: 54565 | so we know that there are conspiricies,cover-ups,mis-information and such......
What are we going to do about it? Educating the population is good but it will only bring us to a point that some other countries are already in....that being that the populace accepts that the government is corrupt(rather than believing they are concerned about the people,like we do here). Yes, knowing is half the battle but then what?... Even if we get to a point where we are in power locally, do you believe that will change what "The Big Boys" are doing? People are fucking sheep who want to be led...they bitch about something but then they take part in the cycle by doing everything they are "supposed" to do... The pre-pubecsent view of revolution which seems to be "i take drugs on weekends,bitch to my friends,pretend to be cool and anti-authoritarian" is not going to do shit (I should know, i've been there). We are so overloaded by the media that we forget about the unjust events that take place. Pepper-spraying protesters was bad for like a month...then it was old fucking news, people moved on. That's the problem with Canadians...we are so complacent about everything except fucking hockey and beer...will we actually rile shit up though?...no. I once had a long discussion with my best friend about revolution. What would happen if ALL cigarettes were taken away...then we would see a REAL fucking revolution... The media knows that if presented images for long enough, the populace will get bored with it. Great sex is great, right? Get's the 'ol juices flowing? Great sex everyday with the same person gets boring...if it can happen with sex, it can happen with anything. Once bored, we focus our attention on the next juicy story. Until it gets played out....and so on and so on and so on.... So what's the next step after accepting the facts? Get our own people in power, hope they don't become corrupt/dead? This is something that I have gone over many times in my mind...how do you remove people from power when they aren't seen as being in power? Remove Bush...he'll be replaced by another puppet who's strings are pulled by the faceless master... The true leaders of the world don't show their power...that's part of their power..being a wolf in sheep's clothing...or better yet...an invisible wolf in sheep's clothing known to none except a select few....how do you remove him from power? Chik...please post your theories on how to get this done or message me...i'm always interested in new ideas... One last thing.... The comment that made me most proud to be a human being, the one that stirred my soul... "I will NOT watch my mouth" Afrokaboozy....I want to meet you some day...your comments are always from the heart whether serious,funny or bizarre.... That comment was, by far, THE SHIT!!!!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» CHIK replied on Fri Feb 28, 2003 @ 2:51am |
| Coolness: 40945 | here are my thoughts;
first of all, im definitely not an expert on matters of political sc, economics, sociology (...) but i do know enough to say that for a sustained society, you do need all the institutions we have now. i am a huge philosopher, spiritualist and idealist and i see what can be. I had a conversation with a 40yr old phychology major dude and he basically refuted all of my ideas which argued that a conscious revolution is possible, based on the premise that we, humans, have the same level of consciousness as any other mammal, and that any calamity created or brought onto us is unevitable and natural. This means that we would have no power of choice on our fate. Like animals who kill each other to control their demographics, we humans think of ourself as predators, living on this earth merely to SURVIVE. RIGHT? This means that pollution, warfare, diseases like AIDS, famine, poverty, homelessness, violence, discrimination; they are all present because humans accept its being. However, I think he's wrong. I think that when one comes to a final conclusion that nothing can be done to change this world, it is probably true; however, only because he has given up. I believe that to rid corruption in our world is an almost impossible task, but i think that it can be done. It seems like part of the reason why ppl accept corruption in our political /economical system is because many are DESENSITIZED to it. no one in school, in the mess media, no authority figure has ever said to a child: "here, here is the truth: your governement is corrupt, (info/info/info), now, you have the power to change it." thats why i think that institutions have not to be destroyed, like some utopian ideas, of ONE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED WORLD, but changed. *my thoughts may not be running clear at this moment, desole* like schools, for example: the article makes a really good point about changing the educational curriculum and way of teaching. i agree with that. also, ppl watch the news, and really, nothing has ever been said about the illuminatis, the events are always presented in a one-perspective manner and never from various oppsing standpoint, everything is censored. and so when u hear about conspiracies, corruption in our societal systems, do you really know? do you really believe? isnt it so much easier to disregard it, and take the truth provided by the mass media instead. i think thats what most do. and i have nothing against the things i am critizing right now, i dont think many things can inherently be WRONG, only its usage. and heres another question, the most important questions for me was, do i really want to change this world for the sake of a soceity that might just not give a shit ie: that wants the status quo..? ur right, like ignorant or stubborn people who know nothing else than what they believe in, who care for nothign else than their own well being, ppl who are completely desensitized.. However ive thought about it, and i do think its worth giving it a try, i think fear stops a lot of people, fear or laziness, have u ever seen waking life? heres what i do about it, i get informed, i reflect on life, society, eveyhitn, KNOW THYSELF, im siwtching into COMMUNICATIONS STUDIES, not to join the corruption, but in attempt to change it, im learning poli science, sociology, and i speard the word. i think its in every INDIVIDUAL TO choose their path, whatever they have gotta go, whaever their path of the heart... but again, i think that many more in this time have more awareness,, compare it to say , a 100 yrs ago: universal consicousness has undoubtedly risen. and i also believe that the more ppl take stuff like this at heart, the less power corrupt and EVIL VEILED !!leaders will have over human beings. i am not a fortune teller, i just have a lot of FAITH. also, heres my numerolgy, i have a 1, an 11, and the significant #8. if u know anything about numerology.. this means that i am 1=innovative/creator, 11=spiritual 8= desire change i am telling you this because it may be relevant for you, in understanding my perspective and where i am coming from: my biased, spiritual driven mind. i have gone off on different tangents but i hope its coherent enuf later |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ontheroadagain replied on Fri Feb 28, 2003 @ 3:58am |
| Coolness: 54565 | refreshing thoughts....
as much as i presented a bleak,hopeless outlook on things i feel that the times they are a changin' awareness is increasing, people are starting to realize that maybe there is more to life than what has been presented to them... A lot of older folks are also realizing that after achieving so called "happiness" and stability, they are still missing something. I really believe it starts with children, if they learn to think for themselves now, we will have better leaders tomorrow. I agree with what you said, here's what struck me the most: 1)"I think that when one comes to a final conclusion that nothing can be done to change this world, it is probably true; however, only because he has given up." Yup, people feel like they can't make a difference, so they stop trying. But if a bunch of people are making a difference and are doing so together, others who feel the same are more likely to help out. I remember when recycling was a new and there was no such thing as "being green". Now it's commonplace...because people fought for it. 2)"changing the educational curriculum and way of teaching" I couldn't agree with you more...it would take pages for me to share my feelings on what i feel should be added, what should be removed and how the teaching methods should be changed. This is a MAJOR point for me. 3)"change this world for the sake of a society that might just not give a shit" Well, i see it like food. I used to think Kraft P.B. kicked ass....until i tried 100% natural p.b.....once i realized how much better the natural stuff was i stopped eating Krap...Once people have a taste of a new way of living and realize everyone is happier because of it, they will see how empty life was before and embrace the new way. A lot of people don't even know there is another way...so i give them the benefit of the doubt 4)"i get informed, i reflect on life, society, everything, KNOW THYSELF" BINGO...right there...people have to know themselves...most people have never really looked inwards...or stepped back and taken a hard look at how things are really going. Reminds me of horses with blinders on...but once the blinders are removed the horses can run free As for the numerology...i don't know a lot about it...but my birth number (reducing birthday to a single digit) is 3...when i checked a couple of sites they gave fluffy answers...what i've read in the past is that 3 is a powerful number (maybe not in numerology though). Thanks for adding to the thread, i hope more people will get in on this discussion....lol....i think the length of the posts scare/bore them :) Oh and i think the psych major dude is confused... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Fri Feb 28, 2003 @ 4:21am |
 Coolness: 91920 | Well, I read the article, it definetly had some interesting points to it. I'm inclined to beleive that in our very open society, its impossible for our media and government to outright LIE to us. I conclude this because with so many different media sources available to us, not only domestic but international ones as well, any outright LIE would inevitably be uncovered. Instead, I think governments and media, particlarly the U.S. media, is involved in systematically perpetuating HALF-TRUTHS. HALF-TRUTHS can be just as persuasive as outrights lies, because by selective reporting, twisting the facts, and embelishing certain details, the government can manipulate our thoughts and conclusions. I think the U.S. media reporting on the Iraq threat is a good example of this: the immediacy of threat from Iraq is emphasized, while other alternatives to war, as well as the consequences of such a war, are either ignored or downplayed. This is why I think it is important to get news from a variety of reputable sources, not because the facts themselves will be that much different, but to balance out the half-truths by hearing a number of different perspectives. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ontheroadagain replied on Fri Feb 28, 2003 @ 1:09pm |
| Coolness: 54565 | I think the media spoon feeds us half-truths, i also believe they are told not to report certain things...basically lies by omission.
I'd like to know what people think about doctored footage as well...if we have the technology to add some weight to Whitney Houston,airbrush photos, and basically change details in film, to what point can we trust what we "see"? "Wag the Dog" comes to mind, the movie where war is staged...this can be done, and seeing is believing right? How do we know what we see is the truth? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Unknown User replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 1:52am |
| Coolness: 15440 | Yikes |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ontheroadagain replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 2:22am |
| Coolness: 54565 | perception is everything... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 2:50pm |
 Coolness: 194255 | as someone who came from Russia, I can assure you that the media here is alot better than there... the article applies THERE everything is controlled, and people learn to read between the lines because everything is just BS. Alot of media here is like that too, except instead of power-control (i.e. you do something wrong and you disappear) its MONEY control... you dont write what you're told asnd you lost your job.. but there IS independent media and you can get different opinions and make your own analysis in conclusions - something we simply didnt have over there, seing how every radio, magasine, newspaper would say basically the same shit.
sure, the situation here isnt great, but things are getting better.. maybe slowly but I believe they are. alot of good points in this thread nontheless :) and Chantale, I like your avatar ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cloak replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 2:58pm |
 Coolness: 57655 | shut up, swollen asshole.
you're a juicy fag. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 3:03pm |
 Coolness: 299555 | bahahaha |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 6:51pm |
| Coolness: 149045 | hahaha!! juicy! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 7:14pm |
| Coolness: 194255 | cath.. was i talking to you? :)
no, i believe i was not. looks like you're still trying to justify the fact that i just won't sleep with you to yourself? so the new thing is, i'm gay. yuppee! apparently im gay! i gotta call Fred now... ;) oh wait.... im having a change of heart.. i think i'll stay hetero for the moment. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 7:15pm |
 Coolness: 685820 | w00t! Finally!
wait... D'oh! :P |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ontheroadagain replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 7:18pm |
| Coolness: 54565 | Ze'ev....thanks for the input...it's kinda cool that you're from Russia, it provides us with a different perspective. I can't comment on Russian media since i haven't lived there myself....i only know what i've been told. The head of Hostelling International from Russia showed me pics and we spent the night discussing stuff, we didn't get into media though....just the general way of life and how it's changed. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ontheroadagain replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 8:32pm |
| Coolness: 54565 | Please take note of the picture above...this is a good example of how media only shows some facts or images to provoke a response from the general population. The intelligent, aware citizens won't fall prey to this because they will inform themselves before jumping on a bandwagon.
What the image doesn't show is that the male involved is not only a sexual being but is kind and intelligent as well....things that cannot be derived from a simple photograph. Let this be a lesson to us all.... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 8:33pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Sun Mar 2, 2003 @ 8:34pm |
| Coolness: 194255 | by the way, Caj: wise words... hey i dont see why people stereotype like this, you have to be open minded to participate in a porn shoot, lotsa people put masks on and so forth..
it was a cool thing to try back in 2000, altho i moved on to other stuff since :) |
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