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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Wed Jun 20, 2007 @ 9:00pm
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As you all obviously know and have been planning for years, I am doing a Live Set at the Infected Mushroom After Party on Canada Day.
Here's a glimpse of what you can expect at 3:00AM.

[ rave.ca ]

Criticism welcome.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Wed Jun 20, 2007 @ 9:56pm
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wayyyyyy to gay for me bro.... good luck
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 4:31am
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that reeeaaaally doesn 't help me make it better, nice try though
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» James replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 5:25am
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It's a bit uninspired/GMS to my ears. Sounds like something GMS or 3dVision would have put out 8 years ago. If that was the sound you were after then bravo. If not then you might need to go back to the drawing board. Good thing you play after IM cause this wouldn't lift the crowd on its own.

My gripes:
-Waaaaay too many vocal samples everywhere. One vox every three tracks is ok, 70 samples in the same track is overkill and destroys any punch it might have had.
-Too thin. Where's the PHAT bro?
-tra-ta-ta-ta-ta-ta-tra-ta-ta-ta-ta synths, bah. No real harmonic content, just throwing notes real fast for no apparent reasons.
-No personality. You just imitate what you've heard before. Find your own sound, break some rules, be original.

take it or leave it, 'tis just me opinion.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 6:11am
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thank you for the well thought review... I appreciate it :)
this is by far the joke song of my latest stuff, so you're description suits it...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 9:57am
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i allways wanted to know whats the pattern of a psy bassline, can you show me an image?
Update » Deadfunk wrote on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 10:06am
im not into the psy sound much, but i think its not that bad, i listen to the track and i couldnt say ... this of that is ugly, i dont know if it is, but the overall sounded nice

but all your synths are gated, is that allways like that in psytrance?

i agree that it misses some kind of PHAT, but is psytrance PHAT anyways?

and i wanna see the bassline!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 11:53am
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psy bassline... quatre double croche quatre double croche quatre double croche quatre double croche (repeat) then add a kick 4 on the floor on the same note and compress the bassline side chained to the kick

...or demi soupir trois double croche + kick

sorry i dont know the english musical terms
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 12:08pm
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ok let me rephrase it for you then... the mix is fine, the levels are fine, everythings fine.. theres nothing I can say technically.....what is lacking (IMO) subjectivly.. is taste.

deadfunk.. gated synths "always"...no...defiantely not. theres alot of it though.
bassline: 1 bar devided into 4 ... [kick, bass, bass, bass] over and over and over again.
psytrance is rarely PHAT compared to most other styles of electronic music.. the standard is rolling the entire lowend off somewhere around the 50hz mark..hence the lack of any sub frequencies. I think its time for a revolution sti!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 12:19pm
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quand jfait des bassline dememe ca sonne pas psy,
anyways, comme jdisait jecoute pas de psy, mais a mes oreille ca sonnait pas si mauvais, mais jtrouve que le sample de voix fite plus ou moin

le gating c'est le fun, mais juste comme synth en background, pour accompagner la bassline, mais jsait ben pas c koi des lead de psy, moi toute mes lead c trance ou ben bouncy

jva rester avec mes bassline en contre temps!
Update » Deadfunk wrote on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 12:24pm
lien zed, you say its the *joke* song of your latest stuff, post a *real* one!

i dont dislike it

you produce on reason?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 5:16pm
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at the risk of this sounding like blatant advertising, you can hear the rest and best of my stuff on July 1rst at the IM after party during my 1hour live set!
I want my stuff to be exclusive, except this track of course.
I will be happy to post a what I consider is 'my best' track right after the party :)
psy bassline at 1/16 for 1 bar
'_---_---_---'where the '_' is the kick and the '-' is the bass note
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» James replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 7:35pm
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I think exclusivity goes down the drain when you simply copy a sound.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 8:15pm
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Originally Posted By JAMES

I think exclusivity goes down the drain when you simply copy a sound.


Sounds like I'm safe then!

Honestly man, you have NOTHING to say about copying sound (listen to your tracks). If you call yourself a producer you're either joking, jealous or horribly uninformed. There's a BIG difference between copying a song, and creating music within a style. It's psytrance, I am not going to start using a saxophone and inserting off beats...

Besides, even if I was copying beats, being able to properly reconstruct every element of a song from scratch is fucking hard... you find me the song I copied and then we'll talk.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 8:17pm
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zed.. james was doing psytrance lives when you were in grade 4... drop it.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 8:32pm
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that explains the dementia...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 9:45pm
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james there are lots of sounds in your tracks that are similar to sounds I have heard in other electronic songs, I wouldn't really call it copying. I do like your music though..

AlienZed: The song sounds good, and will probably go over well in a live setting.. I prefer your darker stuff though, in general. But again, people will probably dig this at a party the way it is now.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» James replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 9:57pm
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[shameless bragging]
I was there in 93, at Nexxus. I was there at Enigma. I was there at 22nd July. I was there in 94 playing my music at Nuit De Rave. I was there 10 years before rebirth. I was there before you could run any real time effect on a sound, much less a real-time synthesized one. I was there, and you were still at mommy's teat.
[/shameless bragging]

Now can we get over this and stop with this jealousy thing? You said critics were welcome, well that's what I gave you. I didn't talk about my music one stupid second. I didn't compare anything you do with anything I did. So drop it.

Yes, PUSH REC+PLAY is extremely simplistic. It wasn't meant to be otherwise. The sound, amateurish as it is, is exactly where it's suposed to be. Everything is a calculated move. It might not strike a chord with you, but you won't find me losing sleep over that. I don't do music to impress, I don't do music to please, I don't do music to prove myself, I don't do music to reinvent the wheel. I do music that I like, for the fuck of it.
Update » James wrote on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 10:15pm
@ScottyP
Yeah well.... in all honesty, PRP sounds like pretty much anything you can run through a distortion haha :)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 11:06pm
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I agree with Scotty, I prefer your darker stuff much better. Good shit, though.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 11:55pm
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Originally Posted By JAMES

I don't do music to impress, I don't do music to please, I don't do music to prove myself, I don't do music to reinvent the wheel. I do music that I like, for the fuck of it.


Neither does he.... now have sex together or something !!!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Thu Jun 21, 2007 @ 11:59pm
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@ deadfunk & br34th3...

you guys want phat? check out the new broken toy... I dunno what part of the production process makes the sub frequencies stand out like its friggin d'n'b but someone somewhere did something very fucking right to that album
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Fri Jun 22, 2007 @ 12:25am
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b33shp00nk!
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