Al-Qaeda Warns Canada
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sat Oct 28, 2006 @ 11:59am |
 Coolness: 201210 | Al-Qaeda warns Canada
Quit Afghan mission or endure attack like 9/11, threat says Stewart Bell National Post Saturday, October 28, 2006 OTTAWA - An al-Qaeda strategist has warned Canada to withdraw its troops from Afghanistan or face terrorist attacks similar to 9/11, Madrid and the London transit bombings. The threat, attributed to a member of the al-Qaeda information and strategy committee, condemns Prime Minister Stephen Harper for refusing to pull out of Afghanistan. It also refers to Canada's "fanatic adherence to Christianity" as well as its purported attempts to "damage the Muslims" and its support for the "Christian Crusade" against al-Qaeda. "Despite the strong, increasing opposition to spread its forces in the fire of South Afghanistan, it seems that they will not learn the lesson easily," Hossam Abdul Raouf writes. "They will either be forced to withdraw their forces or face an operation similar to New York, Madrid, London and their sisters, with the help of Allah." The document, written in July, was obtained and translated by the SITE Institute, a U.S. non-profit group that monitors terrorist Web sites for clients, many of them in government. It is the second reference in recent weeks to al-Qaeda singling out Canada because of its role in Afghanistan. Last month, Osama bin Laden's deputy, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, referred to Canadian troops in Kandahar as "second-rate Crusaders." The increasing focus on Canada in jihadist propaganda follows last June's arrest of 17 terrorist suspects in Toronto and comes as Canada is debating its role in NATO-led combat operations in southern Afghanistan. The text of the threat suggests that al-Qaeda is aware of divisions within Canada over the mission, pointing to public opinion polls and opposition within Parliament. It is also consistent with analysis by Canadian intelligence officials who report that al-Qaeda views Canada as a "priority target" because of the country's high-profile role in Afghanistan and its close relationship with the United States in the war on terrorism. "Despite the differences between the Canadian foreign policy and its U.S. counterpart, and despite the hatred the Canadian people harbour towards the Americans -- their bad neighbours who cannot hold back their damage from them -- they agree with them regarding leading the Christian Crusade in Afghanistan and confronting al-Qaeda there," it says. "They use the same excuses that are used by the British and others. Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said: 'The Canadians learned from the 9/11 attacks against the U.S. that a terrorist threat can enter into our private borders. The Afghani government wants us there, and we are fighting a truly abominable enemy. This is in our national interest. I believe that what we are doing is extraordinary. We will take a commanding role in the province of Kandahar.' " The suspected "homegrown" Canadian extremists arrested by the RCMP in Toronto on June 2 were allegedly motivated partly by their anger over Afghanistan. Authorities claim they intended to take hostages on Parliament Hill and kill the Prime Minister unless he withdrew troops from Afghanistan and released all Muslims from Canadian prisons. The new threat claims Canada is only in Afghanistan to assert itself on the global stage for economic and religious reasons. "Its fanatic adherence to Christianity makes it rush to the financial aid of any issue that will damage the Muslims and strengthen their enemies," the 66-page document claims. Rita Katz, director of the SITE Institute, said not much was known about the author of the document, Hossam Abdul Raouf, except that he is described as a member of al-Qaeda's information and strategy committee and editor of the electronic periodical Vanguards of Kharasan. "Abdul Raouf seems to be very knowledgeable in understanding the Western strategy, and in data mining, as demonstrated greatly in this publication," she said. The threat was posted on Arabic-language jihadist Web forums commonly used to disseminate al-Qaeda-related training and propaganda materials. At a conference yesterday, Jim Judd, director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, said the Internet had "assumed enormous importance" among today's terrorists. "It has in some respects been transformed into a terrorist university, obviating the past need for travel to a conflict zone for 'on-the-job training.' " He said successful attacks are videotaped and transmitted online and recipes for bombs made of commercially available ingredients are on the Internet as well as tips on what to do when arrested. "It is, as well, developing into a medium of radicalization for many who are inspired by a variety of propaganda tools flowing across it. Inspirational rallying cries from far-flung proponents of terrorism or videos of attacks on military forces in Iraq and Afghanistan and elsewhere circulate freely." The "ideology of al-Qaeda" remains today's principal terrorist threat, he said, adding last August's plots to bomb passenger planes over the Atlantic are a "dramatic reminder" that terrorists remain capable of mounting attacks on the scale of 9/11. Speaking at the Canadian Association of Security and Intelligence Studies conference in Ottawa, the intelligence chief said that because of the cross-border nature of the threat, CSIS needs to ramp up its operations overseas. "While we have had personnel operating abroad for some time, it is obvious that we need to further build our capacity to function outside Canada more effectively," Mr. Judd said. Sir Richard Dearlove, who served as chief of the British Secret Intelligence Service until 2004, urged Canada to set up a foreign intelligence agency within the next decade. Although Canada does not have a foreign spy service, CSIS is allowed to collect national security intelligence overseas and has been increasingly active abroad, in countries such as Afghanistan. sbell@nationalpost.com |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Oct 28, 2006 @ 12:09pm |
 Coolness: 339650 | "Canada is debating its role in NATO-led combat operations in southern Afghanistan"
Who's opposed to this war? Canadian troops SHOULD be in Afganistan. This article is deceptive, Canadians are opposed to the iraq war, not the one in afganistan, and anyone who's against the afganistan simply doesn't know what's really going on in the world. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sat Oct 28, 2006 @ 6:22pm |
| Coolness: 201210 | The only people who are against the whole afganistan situation are Al-Qaeda and the people who support them, but they are terrorists so they will use threats of force to scare everyone into backing off. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Oct 28, 2006 @ 8:50pm |
| Coolness: 339650 | as usual, you have intelligent things to add. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» m4xom4x replied on Sat Oct 28, 2006 @ 11:56pm |
 Coolness: 44280 | I find it strange because coming from the mouths of ours today's intellectuals, the so call terrorism group like the Taliban, al-Qaeda* and others seems to be the product of the FBI and the CIA in they're pursuit of achieving a one world government for the benefit of an elite group.
Chossudovsky saying that Al-Qaeda is a CIA asset Noam Chomsky US Terror - Afghanistan, The Taliban & War *Robin Cook, former Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs of the United Kingdom and member of the House of Commons representative, claimed that "Al-Qaeda" states "literally ‘the database' and was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians." *Source: [ en.wikipedia.org ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Oct 29, 2006 @ 12:14am |
| Coolness: 339650 | Al Quaida, Saddam Hussein, Israel, North Korea..
All of them were aided heavily by the U.S. in terms of funding and supplies (weapons and training so they could use them) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn replied on Sun Oct 29, 2006 @ 10:07am |
 Coolness: 178630 | yup. quite illogical. or... conspiracy...
any of you watched that video that said the 9/11 was orchestrated by the CIA? was quite nice :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sun Oct 29, 2006 @ 12:33pm |
| Coolness: 201210 | Actually North Korea was aided by the Soviet Union not the United states. I doubt the United States would ever aid a communist nation.
The Soviet Union deserves as much blame for destabilizing nations as the USA. Both nations funded regimes in several nations in the middle east and other parts of the world during the cold war. any of you watched that video that said the 9/11 was orchestrated by the CIA? was quite nice :)
The Moon landing hoax videos were also very entertaining. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Sun Oct 29, 2006 @ 3:58pm |
 Coolness: 150445 | Originally Posted By SCOTTYP
Actually North Korea was aided by the Soviet Union not the United states. I doubt the United States would ever aid a communist nation. You're wrong. The U.S has provided aid to North Korea. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Oct 29, 2006 @ 5:38pm |
| Coolness: 339650 | they provided lots of aid.
the U.S. even sold them nuclear reactors. i wonder what they did with that stuff.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» m4xom4x replied on Sun Oct 29, 2006 @ 5:53pm |
| Coolness: 44280 | I was calmly surfing the InterWeb when suddenly I ran into these Clips ! It's Totally insane, in which World are we leaving in ?
Why would everybody be silent? part1 Why would everybody be silent? Part2 |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Oct 30, 2006 @ 8:43am |
 Coolness: 145185 | Originally Posted By DJNEOFORM "CANADA IS DEBATING ITS ROLE IN NATO-LED COMBAT OPERATIONS IN SOUTHERN AFGHANISTAN" WHO'S OPPOSED TO THIS WAR? CANADIAN TROOPS SHOULD BE IN AFGANISTAN. THIS ARTICLE IS DECEPTIVE, CANADIANS ARE OPPOSED TO THE IRAQ WAR, NOT THE ONE IN AFGANISTAN, AND ANYONE WHO'S AGAINST THE AFGANISTAN SIMPLY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON IN THE WORLD.
yet another Bushism brought to you by neoform...you're either with us or against us ehhh? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Oct 30, 2006 @ 2:40pm |
| Coolness: 339650 | So.. had the September 11th attacks happened in Canada and killed 3000 Canadians.. you'd be saying "nah, we shouldn't send troops into Afganistan, despite the fact that it was the Taliban that orchestrated the attack? Bullshit.
Just because you hate the U.S. doesn't make Canada any less of an ally. When an ally is attacked in a clear act of war, you help them out. I'm certain the U.S. would do the same had it been us attacked. FYI, what i said wasn't a Bushism, this is: "One has a stronger hand when there's more people playing your same cards." --George W. Bush, on holding six-party talks with North Korea, Washington, D.C., Oct. 11, 2006 |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn replied on Mon Oct 30, 2006 @ 3:15pm |
| Coolness: 178630 | hmm, I don't know... I don't like military. I know that in some cases they can be useful and all... But still I don't like them.
I'd prefer if we kept to ourselves and not make trouble elsewhere. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Oct 30, 2006 @ 4:35pm |
| Coolness: 339650 | And when trouble comes to us? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn replied on Mon Oct 30, 2006 @ 7:33pm |
| Coolness: 178630 | maybe for defense it might be allrite. But... Hmm.. if you get in the "you beat me up, I beat you up" game, it never stops...
But anyways, if you make no trouble and keep to yourself, how can trouble can come to you? ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Oct 30, 2006 @ 11:55pm |
| Coolness: 339650 | No, it's "if you beat me up, I'm going to make sure you never do it again." |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 10:23am |
| Coolness: 50955 | Originally Posted By AERIAL_RAVER
maybe for defense it might be allrite. But... Hmm.. if you get in the "you beat me up, I beat you up" game, it never stops... But anyways, if you make no trouble and keep to yourself, how can trouble can come to you? ;) i find that to be an extremely naive outlook. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 10:46am |
 Coolness: 92250 | There is a lot of opposition to the war in Afghanistan in Canada, if you didn't already know that then everything you ever said is officialy defunct. You go and ciritisize someones shit of not being valid and you are the one who's wrong, you don't even look it up? How many fuckiogn protests do we have to have before you notice what's going on? Jesus christ. There is no opposition to Afghanistan, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my whole life. You live in Canada, get with the program. I don't know what opinion is more popular but I know that if you could actually make that statement than maybe you should reconsider your thought processes.
[ www.edmontonsun.com ] Apart from that, this is the most ignorant thread I have ever read. It's as if no matter what happens, no matter what you see and hear, the next day you wake up and Bush's words have taken over your mind again. There are so many things wrong with this that I don't know where to start. Everytime I read one of these threads I'm remininded of exactly the same thing - 1-none of you read the news, and 2-none of you can retain anything. Read the fucking news or shut the fuck up. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 12:21pm |
| Coolness: 339650 | Everything i said it defunct? Like what?
That Afghanistan's own Taliban controlled government was responsible for the 9/11 attacks? You're telling me that we shouldn't be in Afghanistan? Fuck you. That's all i have to say, the Taliban deserves to get it's ass handed to it for murdering 3000 people who had nothing to do with them. |
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