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Decriminalising File Trading
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun May 29, 2005 @ 5:19pm
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[ www.wired.com ] The French magistrates union has begun to openly advocate decriminalizing online trading in copyrighted works for personal use
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sun May 29, 2005 @ 5:35pm
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ya i heard about this, they are going to wave all the taxes on cds and pcs that are supposed to reimburse the artists....
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun May 29, 2005 @ 9:37pm
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noice!

THIS JUST IN: US ADDS FRANCE TO AXIS OF EVIL AND PLANS JULY INVASION!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun May 29, 2005 @ 9:41pm
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THIS JUST IN: FRANCE HAS ALREADY SURENDERED TO THE US!

:lol
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon May 30, 2005 @ 8:42am
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THIS JUST IN : FRANCE GAVE THE FINGER TO THE EUROPEAN COALITION AND IS CURRENTLY MOONING THE U.S. FROM ACROSS THE OCEAN. BUSH MOST LIKELY TO BLOW A FUSE ( again ), CRY, CALL HIS MOMMY AND BAN ALL FRENCH FRIES IN NORTH AMERICA!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 1:52am
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Originally posted by [SCREWHEAD]...

THIS JUST IN: FRANCE HAS ALREADY SURENDERED TO THE US!

:lol


LMFAO!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 2:13am
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-"The industry is not taking Barella's statements lightly. In a letter last month addressed to the French Minister of Justice Dominique Perben, more than 20 representatives of France's entertainment, music and film association bodies and advocacy groups expressed their outrage."

-"We are surprised and shocked that the president of the magistrates union, given the level of influence he has on his (judicial) colleagues, can publish in the press a call to not criminally sanction criminal acts, which contradicts the intentions of government bodies," the letter read.

I honestly believe that Copywrite and Intellectual property laws are getting totally out of control.

My brother -who works at FusionIII- told me that certain advocacy groups are trying to push a law that can allow artists or labels to turn Musical Notes and Riffs (or samples, if you will) into intellectual property.

I think it's fucking ridiculous.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 4:30am
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dutch will reject it too on thursday i think;;;;
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» provoke replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 1:02pm
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art should not be labeled a product,but with americana,pretty much anything tangible is owned by someone,therefore leaving artistic creation to the producers and marketing crews,hollowing the very soul of art by choosing what can and can't be done, slowly making us forget the actual purpose of creating from the heart and mind.Greed is the tool of the Americas,it can easily make you forget what was meant in the first place.It's sad when you hear people fighting for who owns what,while wholehearted creation and pleasure of showing it to others,sit in the backseat(tied up with gagballs in their mouths).We really are missing the whole point with our copyrights, patents and whatnot.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 2:37pm
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Originally posted by PROVOKE...

art should not be labeled a product,but with americana,pretty much anything tangible is owned by someone,therefore leaving artistic creation to the producers and marketing crews,hollowing the very soul of art by choosing what can and can't be done, slowly making us forget the actual purpose of creating from the heart and mind.Greed is the tool of the Americas,it can easily make you forget what was meant in the first place.It's sad when you hear people fighting for who owns what,while wholehearted creation and pleasure of showing it to others,sit in the backseat(tied up with gagballs in their mouths).We really are missing the whole point with our copyrights, patents and whatnot.


That makes absolutely no sence. The art itself isn't a product (unless we're talking generic pop music)

Granted, prices on things are way too fucking high, but still, things cost money to make. Sure you can make all your own music and be an artist, but to get your music out, you've got 2 choices (right now anyways):

Freely available on the internet
or
Cd/vinyl releases

Most people can't afford their own CD release, which is where the labels come in. And yes, prices are way inflated, but the things still cost money and time to physically produce the CDs.

The art and the distribution are completely unrelated (unless your doing pop, in which case you aren't really an artist, just a tool doing what your told)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 2:48pm
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i'll start buying CDs again once they cost $5 < each.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 5:17pm
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It's one thing to copy music and listen to it at home, it's another to copy it and then use it for DJ gigs. That deserves no respect.

Real CDs are still better than burned ones, I see burned disks fail all the the time on certain players.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 5:59pm
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*yawn*
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 6:01pm
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Originally posted by SCOTTYP...

It's one thing to copy music and listen to it at home, it's another to copy it and then use it for DJ gigs. That deserves no respect.

Real CDs are still better than burned ones, I see burned disks fail all the the time on certain players.


you pay for that copy of vst, cubase and all those other expensive audio apps? same thing.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 9:27pm
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buzz = free
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 9:29pm
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Almost all the stuff I use is free software, sorry neoform

I also get student discounts on any audio stuff I buy...

Ihad a discussion before with friends that people who use a bunch of pirated software to make their music don't deserve to make any money off it.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 9:35pm
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If you are going to copy all the music you DJ then use free music there is tons of it out there and a lot of artists need the exposure... Lots of free music out there that people WANT to be copied and played
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 10:02pm
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NERDS!!!!!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 11:15pm
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hold on
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue May 31, 2005 @ 11:36pm
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Wow, I clicked on that, looked over at MSN, looked back, and was like "when the fuck did I look THIS up?!"

(I then proceded to re-light the spliff that went out)
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