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Man Throws Temper Tantrum; Stomps Geese
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka replied on Tue May 10, 2005 @ 12:26pm |
 Coolness: 52525 | aww poor geese. :/
Hhahahah what a psycho. Man Charged For Allegedly Stomping Geese
Rhode Island Resident Facing Animal Cruelty Charges POSTED: 6:57 am EDT May 9, 2005 UPDATED: 5:28 pm EDT May 9, 2005 ATTLEBORO, Mass. -- A man accused of stomping a family of geese to death over the weekend was in an Attleboro courtroom Monday. NewsCenter 5's Gail Huff reported that John Sanders, 33, of North Kingstown, R.I., was charged with six felony counts of animal cruelty. "I am not a expert in geese and goslings, but I would imagine that a one-week-old or a two-week-old gosling can't be very threatening," said Attleboro Police Sgt. James Keane. Sanders is accused of stomping to death five goslings and their mother at the Texas Instruments campus in Attleboro. Police said the industrial engineer was angry that the mother goose hissed at him as he walked across the lawn. "It was fairly gruesome scene. The deceased goslings were spread over an area of approximately a football field," said Keane. "The goose raised up and hissed at him. He became startled, he tried to frighten the goose away, and when he did, he slipped and fell." After slipping on goose droppings, Sanders allegedly kicked the goose and jumped up and down on the goslings until they were all dead. The injured mother goose was captured and later euthanized. A photographer saw the mother goose after the attack. "(Police) showed me the broken leg, it was compound fracture -- the bone was sticking out. The whole back leg looked like it was ripped apart. I said, 'This is an extensive injury, and I don’t know how any animal could recover from that kind of injury,'" said photographer Mark Stockwell. Sanders, who was arrested at the scene, told police he killed the geese. Texas Instruments employees said they are shocked by the incident. "They do hiss sometimes, but if you don't argue with them, just walk away, they are not going to chase you," said Texas Instruments employee Christina Koluch. Sanders was freed on $1,000 bail and will return to court May 23. Copyright 2005 by TheBostonChannel. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue May 10, 2005 @ 12:40pm |
 Coolness: 339760 | he should be fired. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka replied on Tue May 10, 2005 @ 12:59pm |
| Coolness: 52525 | nah.. he should be chased and stomped. lol |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed May 11, 2005 @ 1:14pm |
 Coolness: 145295 | that guy should definetly look into a vaccation somewhere chill like jamaica or something. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Wed May 11, 2005 @ 7:10pm |
 Coolness: 194120 | dude needs to be fuckin flogged and then forced to smoke a doobie thats for sure
stomping little defenseless gooslings.. like wtf... he musta been bullied alot in junior high |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Wed May 11, 2005 @ 10:50pm |
 Coolness: 201320 | Yeah it's not right to kill an animal unless you intend to eat it |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed May 11, 2005 @ 10:56pm |
| Coolness: 339760 | killing an animal like that is retarded.. dispite your sarcasm.
kill it if you have an actual reason, being mad cause you have a short fuse is not a reason. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Thu May 12, 2005 @ 12:36am |
 Coolness: 56295 | Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...
killing an animal like that is retarded.. dispite your sarcasm. kill it if you have an actual reason, being mad cause you have a short fuse is not a reason. retarded? He lacked self-control and lossed it. Not that I excuse the behavior but in a world like today it is not surprising. Bush is a "perfect" role model and look he's the president! There is no good reason to kill only justifications. Killing and animal like that is totally justifiable. We live in a world where if we don't like something, get rid of it. The world trade center crash was a piece of goose shit that we stepped on and then the people of afghanistan merely geese. Oh and there is a connectiion. I realize alot of you are prolly like what the fuck that's different--way different.. but they can be very closely related. Individuals are strongly impacted by the environement-- some of us at times, more succeptible than others.. who needs evil forces when you have powerful role models who pack heavy influences in their back pocket. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Thu May 12, 2005 @ 12:39am |
| Coolness: 56295 | Originally posted by SCOTTYP...
Yeah it's not right to kill an animal unless you intend to eat it or make clothes out of it... that's the message it gives. It's hard to respect the law when it is inconsistent and biased. If you need people to obey the law, then it ought to be legitimate. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Thu May 12, 2005 @ 7:33am |
 Coolness: 92360 | Bush isn't in Iraq shooting people. He's too pussy to shoot anyone. It's one thing to plan a kill from afar, a completely different mentality to be there and kill it yourself for no apparent reason. After hearing them scream and watching their brains fly, to just continue. He killed baby`s! baby's who died a horrible horrible painful death. At least Bush is doing it for money. This guy is worse then Bush, this guy is the biggest piece of shit I ever heard of and I swear to god if I was there watching him torture these defenseless little geese, his fuckign bones would be hanging out of HIS legs. Law has fuck all to do with it. Law should not be the motivated for someone to not do this.. this sack of shit think geese don't feel pain. Self-control my ass. He just has no respect whatsoever and thinks he's the only living beign that matters. Lack of self-control is not enough to make someone do this. He wanted to do it. That's pretty obvious with their bodies strewn the length of a baseball field.
On another note Bush doesn't have heavy influence on people's minds. Even the texans know he's a blithering idiot. He's teh most brain dead american there ever was. His words will not be quoted and respected.. whatever they are. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» michaeldino replied on Thu May 12, 2005 @ 7:45am |
 Coolness: 69070 | my favorite part of the article:
Originally posted by ELKA...
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu May 12, 2005 @ 8:44am |
| Coolness: 339760 | it's called fair use, you can quote anyone as long as you cite them. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Thu May 12, 2005 @ 9:57am |
| Coolness: 56295 | Originally posted by MOONDANCER...
Bush isn't in Iraq shooting people. He's too pussy to shoot anyone. It's one thing to plan a kill from afar, a completely different mentality to be there and kill it yourself for no apparent reason. Maybe, the reason for this man killing the geese is not apparent to you. But apparently there was a reason, a justification: he slipped and fell on goose droppings, embarassed or whatever, in the heat of the moment, took his heat out on an innocent family of geese. Killing is killing. Killing is the taking of another's life and there is no good reason to do so in any case. If everyone started killing at whim, where would it leave us, but dead presumably. However, I think people have to kill, to learn not to kill as a species like ours who have animal type instincts. However, this is not an argument that ought to be used indefinately --I mean forever. I wouldn't go so far to say a completely different mentality... wether you plot to kill and get other's to do it for you, or you do it yourself.. what's the difference? One choice makes you a pussy, and the other one, a nut case? Would you think it was courageous of bush to physically fight in the war he propagated? I think it takes more courage to not physically fight and not to kill. It can be alot more difficult to communicate, have patience, be temperate, than it is to drop bombs especially since as a species we have a very very long history of trying to resolve things by fighting wars. For a long, long time people thought it a sign of courage to fight in wars, I guess I would tell you that too, if I wanted to convince yuo to fight in my war. After hearing them scream and watching their brains fly, to just continue. He killed baby`s! baby's who died a horrible horrible painful death. At least Bush is doing it for money. This guy is worse then Bush, this guy is the biggest piece of shit I ever heard of and I swear to god if I was there watching him torture these defenseless little geese, his fuckign bones would be hanging out of HIS legs. Yeah, I suppose bush didn't get to hear the screams of the innocent people who died at his hands prolly too busy listening to his ipod. Out of sight, out of mind... So bush gets off the hook because he doesn't hear the screams?! even though he continues...Again why he is worse than bush...? Would he have been equal to bush, if he would have killed those geese for money? Sure, money has value in our society but even more so should life. People, in general, would have a much easier time ramming the geese guy into the ground -- bush, on the other hand, well it ain't for nothing that people, often, speak anonymously against the bush asministration and agenda. So even though you think that this guy was wrong to take an innocent life -- you would take his?! You would be as "low" as him in my eyes. I am not pleased whatsoever when people think they can reap justice from tit for tat, an eye for an eye mentality. It's not a long-lasting solution to a potentially permanent problem. And you hearing the geese-guy screaming, while you're doing him like he was doing the geese, would feel vindicated at this?! You think what this guy needs is to be taught a lesson by making him suffer the pain that you think and that he inflicted on another. What is that supposed to teach him--?! It looks like bush might have more influence on people than you thought. BUt it sounds like you are not ready to admit it. Law has fuck all to do with it. Law should not be the motivated for someone to not do this.. this sack of shit think geese don't feel pain. Self-control my ass. He just has no respect whatsoever and thinks he's the only living beign that matters.
Law has everything to do with it or rather the lack of true law and government. Apparently, cows, pigs, and chicken don't feel pain since we kill them all the time. With that in mind, why would anyone living in our society think that geese feel pain --becuase we don't kill them for food?! Or perhaps the pigs, cows and chickens don't feel as much pain because they were slaughtered in a humane way (whatever that means). Why don't you ask the ckickens and cows, if they feel better than the geese, when they get killed, since atleast the cows and pigs are dying for a good cause -- our hunger and clothing?! Atleast the guy killed the geese in anger, we kill cows like it's the right thing to do. We aren't angry when we are eating what once was a sentient being -- we are full. Now, that's fucked up. But I guess you have a completely different mentality than the people who kill the animals at the slaughter house for food. Since you only buy the meat at the grocery store and your too pussy to kill the cow yourself. The slaughters are much worse than you. Alteast, they are doing it for the money?! Lack of self-control is not enough to make someone do this. He wanted to do it. That's pretty obvious with their bodies strewn the length of a baseball field. Please, you can't neccessarily deduce someone's motivation/intent based on the proof that an act was committed. Just because you do something, doesn't mean you want to do it. In an ideal world, it would be -- but.. It's nice to say well if you did drugs, or cheated, it's because you wanted to. Well of course, but things aren't so black and white. People live in situations and people are influenced by their environment -- we live and we learn and people with power and money, ina society that highly values these things are very influential. VERY. On another note Bush doesn't have heavy influence on people's minds. Even the texans know he's a blithering idiot. He's teh most brain dead american there ever was. His words will not be quoted and respected.. whatever they are. And the fact that people don't realize how influential people like bush are makes his influence all the more stronger. Bush is not a blithering idiot-- so what do they know. It's nice and easy to throw names around such as terrosrist and blithering idiot but it's another thing to kepp the blithering idiot in power-- if he was such a blithering idiot everyone else must be too to keep him in power. His words and actions ought to be quoted and respected as a piece of history that we can learn from. That was fun... somewhat time-consuming--but productive--thanks moon dancer --keep up the good work I suppose. Ps. YOu should reread what you wrote. ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flatlinedive replied on Thu May 12, 2005 @ 1:28pm |
| Coolness: 64000 | i can just imagine some enraged lunatic running around jumping up and down, crushing the goslings.....
what a sick freak and what, no one there to stop him? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri May 13, 2005 @ 6:52am |
| Coolness: 92360 | Originally posted by CINDERELLA SOUL...
Ps. YOu should reread what you wrote. ;) I think you should too! You just managed to derive a hell of a lot of assumptions form what I said and I'm not sure how you came to these conclusions. "Law has everything to do with it or rather the lack of true law and government. Apparently, cows, pigs, and chicken don't feel pain since we kill them all the time. With that in mind, why would anyone living in our society think that geese feel pain --becuase we don't kill them for food?! Or perhaps the pigs, cows and chickens don't feel as much pain because they were slaughtered in a humane way (whatever that means). Why don't you ask the ckickens and cows, if they feel better than the geese, when they get killed, since atleast the cows and pigs are dying for a good cause -- our hunger and clothing?! Atleast the guy killed the geese in anger, we kill cows like it's the right thing to do. We aren't angry when we are eating what once was a sentient being -- we are full. Now, that's fucked up. But I guess you have a completely different mentality than the people who kill the animals at the slaughter house for food. Since you only buy the meat at the grocery store and your too pussy to kill the cow yourself. The slaughters are much worse than you. Alteast, they are doing it for the money?!" this is an absolutley ridiculous thing to say as I have been a vegetarian since I hit puberty. I never compared this to slaughterhouses, I never said it was any worse. In fact a few days ago I posted disgusting slaughterhouse footage to show everyone how disgusting it is. I don't see why not mentioning slaughterhouses means I agree with them. It makes me angry that people think of them as beings who don't feel pain or who's pain isn't important. This was what I meant to express with my post. "Maybe, the reason for this man killing the geese is not apparent to you. But apparently there was a reason, a justification: he slipped and fell on goose droppings, embarassed or whatever, in the heat of the moment, took his heat out on an innocent family of geese. Killing is killing. Killing is the taking of another's life and there is no good reason to do so in any case. If everyone started killing at whim, where would it leave us, but dead presumably." To me embarassment is far from justification. That there was a reason is quite plain since it is impossible to not have a reason, but it was the worst reason you can have. It was not in the heat fo the momment. I mean the momment only lasts a momment. At some point when he was doign this he must have looked down and thought "oh shit I`m losing control and repeatedly kickign/stomping geese, maybe I shoudl stop, mayeb I have gone too far". If he gave the slightest shit he'd be able to stop. I don't care how crazy he is, when people kill inthe heat of the momment they lose control before they catch themselves, he had time to catch himself. He didn't care enough to regain himself. When there's a will, there's a way. If I was there I would be pretty fuckign pissed off and I wouldn`t feel bad about him getting his leg broken just as bad. Not to teach him something, but because I would a: find immense satisfaction in doing so b: I would never forgive myself for standing around and lettign him do that. If someone is attackign your mother right in front of your face woudl you consider it couragious to do nothing? couragious the way bush is for sending a country to war that doesn't believe in his cause?: "Would you think it was courageous of bush to physically fight in the war he propagated? I think it takes more courage to not physically fight and not to kill." Not when you send countless others to their deaths. I`m sorry but it`s not okay to die figfhting for this when you knwo it's wrong. What does everyone else get out of this? name one person who thinks this is worht it and tell me how bush isnt a selfish bastard. If you are going to make people fight for such a horrid cause the leasty you can do is stand up and do it yourself. It is not fair that he is in his living room eating potato chips. Why do the good people have to die for his barbaric cause especially when he cant do it himself? This is pure cowardess. Every ruler who ever CAUSED a war and coudlnt stand up and fight is a coward. I understand what you mean if you said it is courageous to nto start wars but what you are sayign is it is courageous to start a war and let everyone else fight it. He would not have started this if he had to fight it! " It can be alot more difficult to communicate, have patience, be temperate, than it is to drop bombs especially since as a species we have a very very long history of trying to resolve things by fighting wars. " HE IS the one ordering bombs to be dropped. I guess you haven't heard yet that this is his war, not ours. Are you saying it's the soldiers fault bombs are beign dropped? The guy who is ordering them to and this whoel fuckign war conquest is couragious because he isnt dropping bombs himself but it's okay if you`re ordering others to drop bombs instead? It is nto couragious to send people to their deaths when they don't believe this is a cause worth dying for. It's nto okay to give soemone guilt that will last a life time for pressing the 'eject bomb' button. Especially if you ar not willing to do any of these things yourself. I can't believe you are tellign em he is couragious for being a fuckign hyppocrite trader. Furthermore what communication do you see him tryign to do with Iraq? There is nothign to communicate. I don't understadn you're way of thinking on this subject. It is quite obvious at this point, and has been for wuite some time that there was never anythign to negotiate. It's not like Iraq did anythgin bad to him. He wants money. You think the mongols negotiated with the countries they conquered. "umm hey, we are thinkign of invading your country, what can you do to make us stop? Maybe if we get to knwo eachother a little better I`ll cahnge my mind... " "Yeah, I suppose bush didn't get to hear the screams of the innocent people who died at his hands prolly too busy listening to his ipod. Out of sight, out of mind... So bush gets off the hook because he doesn't hear the screams?! even though he continues...Again why he is worse than bush...? Would he have been equal to bush, if he would have killed those geese for money? Sure, money has value in our society but even more so should life. People, in general, would have a much easier time ramming the geese guy into the ground -- bush, on the other hand, well it ain't for nothing that people, often, speak anonymously against the bush asministration and agenda. So even though you think that this guy was wrong to take an innocent life -- you would take his?! You would be as "low" as him in my eyes. I am not pleased whatsoever when people think they can reap justice from tit for tat, an eye for an eye mentality." I never said I agreed with Bush, I dunno how he's off the hook. The only reason I ever mentioned Bush was to poitn out he isn't worht mentioning. You said you think Bush has influence ove things liek this. I don't understand how you relate them. Both are cold-hearted people, but their methods of killing and reasons are very different. I can almost guarantee he was nto thinking "bush kills people so I'm gonna kill these geese" I never said I would kill him, I don't understadn where you derived that. I don't believe that someone should lose the right to their whole life for commiting one selfish act. People should always have another chance, I never suggested doign antyhing that wouldn't heal. I said I woudl break his legs if I was there. I don't think any justice would come out of it. I'd like him to knwo how it feels though and that not everybody in this world is gonna stand back and let him do shit like that. There is a point where somebody has to take a stand. The only thing holding him back form doing shit liek this since he doesn't care about the pain the animal is feelign, is by fearign people who do care. You can't make someone care, this is why we have police and not just a bunch of humanitarian campains. cause we can't let everyone do whatever they want and what's to stop him if no one stands up? A fine that costs a third of his weekly paycheck? I don't agree with organizations like PETA who use violence and lies to scare people out of testing on animals. They make the situation worse. This is not the same thing though, no matter how much you will try to convince me it is. Morally perhaps but strategically no, and I have the sense to decide whether what I do will cause mroe bad then good. I don't see what kind of negative affects on his or my mind or anyone elses will come out of me breakign his legs though. Even if ti woudn't do good either. My satisfaction in this situation could not come from 'beign the bigger person' and standing around. I could nto justify that to myself. You can't compare this situation to every ailment of the world. "It looks like bush might have more influence on people than you thought. BUt it sounds like you are not ready to admit it. " You may be right bu not in this situation. "Please, you can't neccessarily deduce someone's motivation/intent based on the proof that an act was committed. Just because you do something, doesn't mean you want to do it. In an ideal world, it would be -- but.. It's nice to say well if you did drugs, or cheated, it's because you wanted to. Well of course, but things aren't so black and white. People live in situations and people are influenced by their environment -- we live and we learn and people with power and money, ina society that highly values these things are very influential. VERY" I never claimed to knwo his motivation or intent. I claimed it can't possibly be a good one. If you do drugs or cheat it is becuase you want to.. it is a choice. Do I think that can't be forgiven? Most definitly not. If anythignt the exact opposite. I think you woudl be a very closed minded person indeed to hate someone for either fo those things. I also never said I hated this man either, I said he is a piece of shit. He makes me angry. Sorta like calling him a jacklas you know. I didn't think my words woudl be tediously disected. "And the fact that people don't realize how influential people like bush are makes his influence all the more stronger. Bush is not a blithering idiot-- so what do they know. It's nice and easy to throw names around such as terrosrist and blithering idiot but it's another thing to kepp the blithering idiot in power-- if he was such a blithering idiot everyone else must be too to keep him in power. His words and actions ought to be quoted and respected as a piece of history that we can learn from" On one hand oyu are saying his influence is bad and on the other hand you are saying he ought to be quoted so we can learn from him. Even though you`re contradicting yourself I undersatdn what you are tryign to say and this is another reason I think it is pointless to talk about his influence. However, Bush is a blithering idiot. Just listen to him speak. He's next to brain dead the way it looks to me. I also doubt that Bush is the only one responsibel for all this. I find it hard to believe Irag voted bush like they say. Especially only a few months after invasion. Something about every president being from texas, I find perplexing. Something abotu bombing your own fuckign country and gettinf re-elected is just fishy. "That was fun... somewhat time-consuming--but productive--thanks moon dancer --keep up the good work I suppose." `Don't worry, I love a good argument ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Fri May 13, 2005 @ 5:36pm |
| Coolness: 145295 | Originally posted by FLAT.LINE.DIVE...
i can just imagine some enraged lunatic running around jumping up and down, crushing the goslings..... what a sick freak and what, no one there to stop him? ya for real some one musta been there cause how would we hear about it otherwise |
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