Originally Posted By NAMASTE HEY I LIKE THIS TOPIC! I DON'T THINK RAVE IS DEAD. MAYBE CHANGED, I DON'T KNOW, I WAS NOT THERE IN 1996 OR WHATEVER. BUT IT IS CERTAINLY NOT DEAD, IT IS JUST NEW-SCHOOL. AND EVEN THE NEW SCHOOL WILL EVENTUALLY BECOME OLDSCHOOL, WITH TIME AND CHANGE. DANCING CELEBRATIONS ARE THERE SINCE, WELL, A LONG TIME AGO. IT IS NATURAL TO HUMANKIND TO GATHER AND DANCE TO THE BEAT OF THE DRUMS, OR THE MACHINES. IT IS NATURAL TO LOOK FOR THIS ECSTATIC EXPERIENCE, AND TO DO IT UNTIL SUNRISE, AND TO FEEL ALMOST A SENSE OF THE SACRED. TO ME THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF THE RAVE. CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT... IF YOU THINK RAVE IS DEAD, MAYBE IT'S JUST YOU THAT IS DEAD TO THE RAVE. AND THAT'S OK, I MEAN, YOU PASS ON TO SOMETHING ELSE. BUT THERE WILL ALWAYS BE DANCING, AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE MUSIC, AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE POSITIVE VIBES, AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE LOOKING FOR THAT KIND OF INTENSITY.

Originally Posted By DRGONZO
you shouldnt let them drink or do drugs or gamble.

Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
I totally gotta be in this.

Originally Posted By HOST_ONE :D LOL DOGS ARE CUTE :P SQUEEGEES AREN'T

Originally Posted By ALXZRED
regimental911 says,"i like how they think it just wasn't "our thing""
If it just wasn't your thing, would be fine,
But for you to shit on everyone who was there is judge "mental"

I think there's a little gang of ppls who think they own [ rave.ca ]
I think they think they're VERY cool
I think they hang out in bars and clubs
I think there are intelligent ppls reading (less than posting)
And for all of them that are too nice to say something...
I'll say FUCK OFFF
Learn to live and let live
That Is RESPECT

Originally Posted By SCOTTYP FIRST OF ALL, I WAS WEARING A HAT AND NOBODY CAUSED SHIT WITH ME, THEY ALSO TOLD US NOT TO STAND OUTSIDE, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE (ALTHOUGH ONE PERSON OUTSIDE SHOULDN'T BE A BIG DEAL). THREATENING PEOPLE IS OUT OF LINE OF COURSE, BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT A LOT OF THEM ARE DEATHLY AFRAID OF COPS, AS THERE MIGHT BE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD BAD EXPERIENCES WITH THEM (COPS REALLY TREAT PUNKS AND STREET KIDS BAD). WHEN I AM DRESSED IN A LEATHER JACKET AND ARMY PANTS AND THE LIKE, I HAVE BEEN HARASSED BY COPS AND PEOPLE IN STORES FOR NO REASON, AND I AM HARDLY A PUNK. THERE IS A HUGE STIGMA AGAINST ANYONE WHO EVEN REMOTELY LOOKS LIKE THAT. GRANTED, IT IS PROBABLY THE FAULT OF THE BAD EGGS WHO CAUSE TROUBLE AND MAKE IT HARD FOR EVERYONE, BUT THERE IS A STIGMA NONE-THE-LESS. FROM WHAT I HEARD FROM NOAH, THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY PAY RENT THERE, SO IT'S NOT A REAL "SQUAT", GOD KNOWS HOW IT'S PAID FOR THOUGH, BUT I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE "LIVING" THERE (IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT LIVING). I HAD A GOOD TIME THE HOUR I STAYED, BUT THERE IS NO WAY I COULD HAVE STAYED ANY LONGER THAN THAT.. CLEARLY THERE IS A SEVERE CLASS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MOST OF US AND THE PEOPLE WHO STAY THERE, MOST OF US HAVE JOBS OR GO TO SCHOOL (OR BOTH), AND WE ARE KIND OF SPOILED WITH OUR APARTMENTS OR PARENT'S HOMES. I CAN ATTEST TO THIS CAUSING PROBLEMS, I HAVE FELT OUT OF PLACE BEFORE WHEN I AM AT REALLY FANCY CLUBS OR AROUND RICH PEOPLE, IT CAN BE UNCOMFORTABLE. THE SAD THING IS THAT IT IS LIKELY A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HANG OUT THERE PROBABLY HAVE SOME KIND OF SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROBLEM (WHETHER ALCOHOL OR DRUGS OR BOTH) SO IT'S HARD TO DEAL WITH. PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE STREET OR SQUAT OR LIVE IN SOME KIND OF RUN DOWN PLACE ARE PROBABLY REALLY INTIMIDATED BY A BUNCH OF RICH MIDDLE-CLASS AND UPPER-CLASS PEOPLE ENTERING THEIR SPACE. I'M SURE THEY ARE USED TO BEING WALKED BY AND IGNORED AND LOOKED DOWN UPON IN THE DAY-TO-DAY WORLD, SO YOU CAN EXPECT SOME ANIMOSITY. I OPENLY ADMIT TO NOT BEING HARDCORE ENOUGH TO LIVE THAT KIND OF LIFE, BUT I DON'T CONSIDER THAT A BAD THING. I HAVE A COUSIN WHO SPENT HIS LIFE ROAMING AROUND AND LIVING IN THE STREET, AND IT IS NOT A GOOD LIFE TO LIVE AT ALL. PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY DO THAT BY CHOICE AND NOT BY CIRCUMSTANCE BOGGLE MY MIND.

Originally Posted By ANNILY I THOUGHT THE VENUE WAS PRETTY COOL, DEFINITELY A DIFFERENT VIBE, BUT ISN'T THAT THE POINT? IF YOU WANT THE SAME COOKIE CUTTER FUN THEN GO TO OPERA. THE PUNKS AMUSED ME AND WERE ALL REALLY NICE TO ME.. THE ONLY THING IS I'M NOT HARDCORE ENOUGH FOR HARDCORE :(