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What Software Should I Use To Trigger Samples?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 2:39pm
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Hey, I want to launch samples/sounds on my computer by using USB controller. The best idea I've found is to use drum pads, such as rock band drum set's, since I need to hit the sensor with a drumstick. If this doesn't work I'm thinking of using a cheap keyboard (as in "piano keyboard", not "computer keyboard") directly plugged into my computer's USB port; this solution would be less practical for me, but it's still a plan B and my question is the same:

What software should I use to play a given sample when I hit a given pad or key?

I know that Ableton Live can do this, but it's too big/heavy for what I need (my laptop is very old and running Windows2000; I'm not sure it could endure WindowsXP). I'm thinking of maybe using Max/MSP, but I guess there may be free and lightweight software doing what I want.
I roughly know of Fruity Loops, Reason, SoundForge, CuBase...? These are all rather heavy, I guess, and not free. (and some of them may not even do what I want).

Any ideas?

I only need to trigger like 4 or 5 samples of 30 seconds to 10 minutes each, no need for velocity/sensitivity/response/speed (if there's up to one-second lag, it's okay).

+ other question: what rock band drum set has standard usb connectivity? PS2? PS3? Xbox? Xbox360? GameCube? And will I be able to find easily their drivers for Windows 2k? XP?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 2:54pm
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[ www.bizrate.com ]

that and a standalone version of N.I Battery or any standalone free virtual sampler you can find on [ kvraudio.com ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 4:24pm
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thanks :)
the Korg nanoPad looks nice but I'd prefer pads for drumsticks instead of fingers, that is, larger and more sensitive.
I think I'll go for an Xbox360 or PS3 rock band drum set, and I'll try to find drivers for Windows2000.
Or it looks like I may get a Yamaha DD-5 so I'll just buy a MIDI-to-USB adapter/sound card!

As for the virtual sampler, I'm trying them out right now... thanks for the links!

I'm still open to any suggestion :)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 4:27pm
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How 'bout dem'apples?

[ alesis.com ]

Because I really doubt Rock Band controler is velocity sensitive
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 4:40pm
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from what I'm understanding, the Rockband controller DOES work with a PC (the Xbox 360 one only), but it works only as a game controller, not as a midi controller.. there's probably some hacks out there to convert xinput to MIDI though..
Mise À Jour » Screwhead a écrit sur Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 4:41pm
also you'd need WinXP minimum for it to work, the Xbox controller drivers don't work on anything lower.
Mise À Jour » Screwhead a écrit sur Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 4:43pm
AND they're still not velocity-sensitive, just on-off like pushing the ABXY buttons
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 5:01pm
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Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD

from what I'm understanding, the Rockband controller DOES work with a PC (the Xbox 360 one only), but it works only as a game controller, not as a midi controller.. there's probably some hacks out there to convert xinput to MIDI though..


I found a game controller-to-MIDI utility on MacOSX that was "Rock band drum" compatible but I never got the damn thing to work unfortunately, as I said to myself "fuck it it's gonna be way faster if I just Piano Roll the damn thing"
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 5:46pm
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Well, as I said I do NOT need velocity... just on/off triggering by a simple drumstick hit.
It's for playing intros or movie samples, not drum sounds.
Alesis ControlPad would be ideal but it's too expensive for my needs...

If I get a Yamaha DD-5 working, what I'll still be needing is a "virtual sampler", that is, any program able to assign a "sample number X = on" or "sample number X = off" action any time I hit the pad number X on the controller (DD-5 or rockband drumset or anything else).

I just tried Mellosoftron III but it's so old that it struggles loading the WAV samples and doesn't even play mp3. I'm gonna try and find N.I.Battery, or anything else you'll advise me :)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nodeletesucks a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 6:17pm
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M-Audio Trigger Finger?
Backordered yeah but you can find an used one for dirt cheap!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 6:48pm
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hmmm looks nice and similar to Korg nanoPAD; good for fingers but not drumstick hits... + it's too expensive :P
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nodeletesucks a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 8:06pm
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Actually, you can use it with drum sticks. Just be precise =)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 10:36pm
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Originally Posted By A_X_CELL

Actually, you can use it with drum sticks. Just be precise =)


Just like cutting paper with a chainsaw.

flo: sorry i read needed velocity. look on [ vintagesynth.com ] you might find an older "kinda Alesis" drum controller for cheap too.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo a répondu le Sun 7 Nov, 2010 @ 11:29pm
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Originally Posted By SOURULTRAFAST

Just like cutting paper with a chainsaw.


LOL exactly :)

thanks for the tips, guys!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Tue 9 Nov, 2010 @ 1:26pm
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Your OS is 10 years old, that kind of hampers things a bit.

Maybe run a very old version of reason like reason 1.0? or an ancient version of fruityloops (that program has been around since 1996-1997 I think)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo a répondu le Tue 9 Nov, 2010 @ 2:05pm
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I know this is limiting... the laptop has 128MB of RAM and is a Pentium III with I guess not much more than 500MHz; so XP won't run on it at all.

I found Softcore in the above list, which seems to be doing what I need (I haven't tried with the controller yet, though). A Max/MSP standalone patch should also work.
I'll probably try older versions of Reason or FruityLoops if Softcore and MAx/MSP don't work.
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