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The 30 Greatest Conspiracy Theories
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Wed 25 Mar, 2009 @ 4:38am
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I'm feeling surly right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead a répondu le Wed 25 Mar, 2009 @ 4:47am
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funny i was watching the "night vision" series , [ www.youtube.com ]

trying to wikipedia Leo Lyon Zagami , no success, probably just a guy with an accent , bitching the whole vatican & governement for 13 episodes , makes good background audio thou :P
Mise À Jour » cutterhead a écrit sur Wed 25 Mar, 2009 @ 4:51am
and i dunno why but 9 is like the movie " red dawn " made into a consipary

9. Operation Northwoods

A genuine conspiracy involving a plan by the Joint Chiefs of Staff to launch a fake Cuban terror campaign on American soil to persuade the US public to support an invasion against Castro. The plan involved bombings and the simultaneous hijacking and blowing up of American airliners. The operation was quashed by President Kennedy leading many to speculate that it was linked to his assassination a year later. The plan has also been linked by theorists who believe that the September 11, 2001 attacks were a so-called "inside job" because of the use of airliners.

10. MK-ULTRA

The code name for a covert mind-control and chemical interrogation research programme, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence. The programme began in the early 1950s, continuing at least through the late 1960s, using US citizens as test subjects. Project MK-ULTRA was brought first to wide public attention in 1975 by Congress and by the Rockefeller Commission. Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MK-ULTRA files destroyed in 1973. Although the CIA insisted that MK-ULTRA-type experiments were abandoned, CIA veteran Victor Marchetti has stated in various interviews that the agency routinely conducts disinformation campaigns and that CIA mind control research continued. In a 1977 interview, Marchetti specifically called the CIA claim that MK-ULTRA was abandoned a "cover

^^ but mk ultra is real , it happened for real in montreal , lots of sources at mc gill and pinel as well as correspondance with new york/ manhattan for doing do.
Mise À Jour » cutterhead a écrit sur Wed 25 Mar, 2009 @ 4:52am
lots of hookers / hobos and were LSD induced & sleep depraved for days . not to talk about their successfull remote viewing team,
Mise À Jour » cutterhead a écrit sur Wed 25 Mar, 2009 @ 4:58am
thanks for the exhaustive list :P shakespear wtf

9. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion <- i still think its a " case study " more than anything else , a very negative one , that if it would be applied by governamental faction, would result in hell on earth. some of its application also gives tremendous domination skills.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly a répondu le Wed 25 Mar, 2009 @ 12:13pm
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Wow. This list passes all of those off as "theories"? I guess it's easy to be one-sided when you're in the educated press, taking spoon-fed knowledge at face value.

MK-Ultra was an experiment that took place right here in Montreal at McGill University. Nobody will talk to you about it because it wasn't supposed to leak, but there are a few psych profs who will confirm that it was a real study and that yes, random people got dosed. The part where it slips into theory has something to do with "supersoldier" training. That part is b.s. Also it was the OSS, not the OSI, that paid for this study. That was the inexperienced secret service that existed before the CIA and broke tons of rules now in place.

9/11 - need we say more, that's no theory, it's clear things are being covered up, but perhaps the theories are wrong.

The Illuminati existed around 1776 and was led by Adam Weishaupt. Whether or not this A.W. replaced George Washington is the question pertaining to the conspiracy theory the Telegraph article hints at, and the Bavarian Illuminati may have dissolved or disappeared, but names were still found on a list and ties between the Rosicrucians, Merovingians, Freemasons, Knights Templar, and several other organizations that have existed since the crusades are actually well documented. Robert Anton Wilson goes into the teachings of Weishaupt at the end of Illuminatus! and actually deflates a lot of the paranoia regarding this secret society. But this doesn't mean that a sort of Illuminati doesn't exist, just that this theory is faulty. The Hapsburgs, Bronfmanns, Rothschilds, all play into the banking conspiracy (why wasn't that on the list), but it's not really a conspiracy if it's not really hidden is it? Rich people want to stay rich. What else do we need to know? People who were in power want later generations to hold that power. Obvious enough.

So when we get to New World Order theories... who isn't trying to impose their own New World Order? Maybe different political groups give the impression of different goals but everyone is aiming for some sort of utopia that comes after the crunch. It's a weird pseudo-religious concept that has slipped its way on to many lips. It even says "Novo Ordo Seclorum" on the American dollar bill. But nobody here needs me to repeat that. It's just odd how we never question what the hell these weird latin mottos actually refer to. Every other country seems to at least have some clarity to their nationalistic symbolism.

As for the Priory of Sion, I believe both Jean Cocteau and Erik Satie (might have been Debussy and not Satie, I forget) were members, and from what I understand of Gnostic beliefs, there is nothing secret about the Catholic church steering Christian debate away from any leftovers of paganism. In "The Barbarian Conversion" by Richard Fletcher, the author explains how many pagan rituals and cults were absorbed into early Christianity, in a syncretism that became an appropriation. Before we knew it, the Christmas tree was a part of Jesus' birthday which was suddenly at the same time as Yuletide, though the Amanita Muscaria mushrooms festooning the trees were never explained. Mary Magdalene existed, but Christianity went Patriarchal, and to this date the mass media still acts like it's blasphemy to dare challenge established global religious empires.

So... all I ask is... conspiracy theories? Or loose threads of larger discourses? Because I can't help that feel the label "conspiracy theory" is a loaded term suggesting that anybody who dares question the status quo dismissal of such ideas is a paranoid nutjob, that the theory has no basis in fact (which would make it a speculation, and not a theory), and that there are "conspiracies" to hide this information. In truth, these are all ideas that people do not like to entertain, and which are considered taboo on a greater scale, and the only conspiracy is people's own fear that they don't have the right to question the world around them.

TL;DR: There are no conspiracies, only scared little pussies who want the mass media reality to explain everything.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead a répondu le Wed 25 Mar, 2009 @ 2:50pm
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what , erik , you post faschistic TL;DR , yet you block text the same.

you just like to rule off. why did you wrote back the mkultra as in mcgill when it was posted rith before your post , A DAY before ?

thats the only conspiracy theory ill beleive , people trolling here are conspiring their own agenda for bitter fame.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly a répondu le Wed 25 Mar, 2009 @ 7:48pm
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LOL @ faschisistic.

Yeah man, FYI TL;DR just means too long, didn't read. That's not fascist that's completely neutral. I just didn't feel like reading it all and it was sort of like a flood. Floods suck. I write paragraphs.

Most people don't read em. If it mattered at all then there would be cause for anger and upset if people were to post TL;DR. But if someone did that to me I would go, good lord did I go on, laugh at my own silliness, and call it a day.

But some people can't do that. Don't get so emotional and crazy over a web forum. I know your butt hurts, but like, don't be so butthurt.


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