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Montreal'S Subtone & Stalker Plagiarized By "fake" Bulgarian Producer!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob a répondu le Sun 16 Nov, 2008 @ 11:11am
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I coulnd't believe I would get a link to something like this ever, and nor did
Dave (Subtone) I'm sure. But to those who know the Montreal Drum'n'Bass/Neurofunk/Breaks production
duo Fortress aka Subtone & Stalker we're recently fucked over by fake producer from
bulgaria.

He stole one of their tracks, re-edited it with more breaks and sounds layered on top and
has managed to get it signed by a minor label and is selling it on beatport right
now! He also managed to get recognition in Knowledge Magazine for these supposed "Original
Tracks" he's produced.

I smell a huge lawsuit.

Follow the link and read up on this, it's fucking crazy...
[ www.dogsonacid.com ]
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Sun 16 Nov, 2008 @ 11:28am
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Unbelievable...that really is the lowest of the low to do shit like that
I'm feeling bass heavy right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 a répondu le Sun 16 Nov, 2008 @ 12:33pm
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Wow. That's fucked up. There is no denying it is the exact same track. I mean, the breakdown is exactly the same, the samples are ALL the same as well, aside from an extra layer of drums.

If only the guy pretended to make it sound like a different track but he kept it in its original state pretty much down to the BPM itself.

I hope Subtone's label sues the guy for this.
I'm feeling fallout 3 right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Subtone a répondu le Sun 16 Nov, 2008 @ 2:44pm
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I can't comment on whether or not there will be any legal action taken. The tune is for sale on Beatport, but I'd be very surprised if there have been many sales. If anything, this will just result in some fake ass getting permapwnd. Please help by contributing photochops either here or in the DOA thread.








Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Sun 16 Nov, 2008 @ 6:17pm
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Well my advice to you my friend is too fight this guy as hard as possible

I remember when a certain local crew tried to take credit for an original clubnight I'd been running for nearly 5 years. To make it even worse I had basically helped them out by involving them in my established clubnight beause they had nothing going for them at the time and they then turned around and tried to steal it (and take credit for my work)

It really pissed me off at the time that people would lack so much integrity but I decided to fight back and today I am very happy I did.

I'd say make as big a stink as possible, denounce him on every message board you can find. The worse thing that can happen is that you'll get a lot of publicity from all this :)
I'm feeling bass heavy right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Sun 16 Nov, 2008 @ 6:29pm
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What a fucktard! How can you wake up in the morning and say to yourself that you are a producer when you do something like this. I hope his entrail comes out of his ass while experiencing an explosive diarhea.
I'm feeling like crushing you right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Fake.Life a répondu le Sun 16 Nov, 2008 @ 6:58pm
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Thats some low shit right there man. Just make his life hell man, make it hell... Oh and Host check your MSN got a surprise for our little buddy "FAST" that I think you may wanna see.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Sun 16 Nov, 2008 @ 7:32pm
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Alex, wich track did fucktard stole of Fortress?
I'm feeling like crushing you right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Sun 16 Nov, 2008 @ 9:17pm
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It was Neo Tokyo
I'm feeling like shit right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo a répondu le Mon 17 Nov, 2008 @ 5:11am
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Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD

It was Neo Tokyo


at least it's already been released several months ago :)
I'm feeling phd powa !!! right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob a répondu le Mon 17 Nov, 2008 @ 7:18am
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try a year
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos a répondu le Mon 17 Nov, 2008 @ 1:09pm
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Something like this happened with a book my grandmama wrote. It was already copy righted, but some woman in germany was blatently breaking copyright laws and selling it as her own. The international laws and legal process is a bitch though...so it wasnt worth doing anything over.
I'm feeling empty right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast a répondu le Mon 17 Nov, 2008 @ 1:16pm
sourultrafast
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Originally Posted By GAMOS

Something like this happened with a book my grandmama wrote. It was already copy righted, but some woman in germany was blatently breaking copyright laws and selling it as her own. The international laws and legal process is a bitch though...so it wasnt worth doing anything over.


That's the sad part. Copy "artists" know they can get away with it because of the slow painful and expensive procedure that applies to international lawsuits.
I'm feeling like crushing you right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 4:13am
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anywhere but in the u.s. there you could get "fap-suit" on top of that, having to pay the pagitar
because he has more money for the lawers...

people get discourage pretty quick on this one , but there are some org that are there for that.
the more they nab the pleasy-er they get. they just take a share too in the end , but they work the
job. then you could re-suit after for having the other dude pay them.

get a private eye helps too,

i do get that shoping in that bizness is hard too, and nailing ppl overseas is a bitch. but AT LEAST UR not getting fucked like you could have in the states
I'm feeling 4.5kw 240vrms 45a right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 4:54am
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Yo take him out man. Don't let the piece of shit get away with that. If I ever caught anyone steeling my music and selling it as there own, I swear to god I'd fly over to there country and give them a crazy beating Jay and Silent Bob Style.
I'm feeling wtf charles? right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 4:58am
greatjob
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Yeh it's easy to say, doing is a lot harder.

Like realistically if you wanted to pull a "Goldie" as they say,
you would need body guards that are able to twist your head off like
a doll, a good lawyer on stand by and to be prepared to face criminal charges in another country.
Going there with a cd booklet/laptop and your word will either get you hurt,
or even perhaps killed, especially going alone.

This is music, not cocaine. Civilized measurements will take place
I'm sure, nobody will resort to violence. I don't even recall hearing
anything about the Hip Hop scene regarding ppl getting killed over
tunes. But I'm sure some have been severely broken or hurt.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 5:06am
bad_chemistry
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I just get worked up over that shit, you know. Your music is something really personal and it reflects your thoughts and emotions as a human being. For somebody to just go and blatantly steal it is such an act of disrespect. I know you can empathize with me on this one Alex.
I'm feeling wtf charles? right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 5:09am
greatjob
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Bro of COURSE
I'm just saying the Goldie method doesn't always work haha

I don't even know what I would do if I woke up and found
my tracks on someone's webspace, because a) they're unfinished
tracks b) I'm not signed, therefor it's my word against there's
and c) I don't rly have any friends or legal recourse

it would be a complete nightmare
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 5:11am
bad_chemistry
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Yo speaking of that we both gotta finish up some tracks and actually release em.
I'm feeling wtf charles? right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 5:17am
greatjob
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Mos def, I just need someone to come over with their mac os install cd's
and help me re-format my imac & re-install Logic.

Maybe you can help :p
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