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Mating Game: The Really Wild Kingdom (for You Ntk People)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear a répondu le Sun 23 Sep, 2007 @ 10:23am
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By Jeanna Bryner, LiveScience Staff Writer

When it comes to mating, wild animals make their own rules. From lionesses of East Africa that mate with many males before ovulating and committing their eggs, to male walruses that joust for several female partners, the animal kingdom is full of swingers.

In some human societies, sexual behavior akin to these animals would be shunned. Do these animals just not care what "society" thinks about their promiscuous behavior? Even the most domestic of animals, dogs, don't bat an eye before sniffing a fellow canine's butt or humping an owner's leg.

"Just about every animal is quite promiscuous," said Diana Fisher, a behavioral ecologist at the Australian National University.

Though such free animal love might appear light-hearted, survival and passing on genes are serious business in the animal world.

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Animal "personal ads" would reveal a conflict between males and females. Males want to mate with as many females as possible with the goal of fertilizing the most eggs. Females are a little more selective, preferring to hook up with the best males to fertilize their eggs.

One end result is polygyny—the most common mating strategy in the animal kingdom—in which males compete for access to a harem of breeding females. Sexual selection tends to favor adaptations that enhance reproductive success, including a large body size to boost success in pre-mating combat between males, and high sperm counts to up the chances of successful fertilization.

Rather than investing limited resources in inflating their bodies, females typically have a more conservative growth strategy and allocate more into the production and provisioning of offspring. By waiting on the sidelines during male-male jousting, the female can mate with the strongest male.

"Males fight it out and the best fighters get large harems of females," Tim Clutton-Brock, an animal ecologist at the University of Cambridge, told LiveScience. "If you just take the winner, you've got the best male. You don't need to sit back and choose carefully between males."

Human males must decide how much energy to put into weightlifting, for instance, to woo women, and how much they should focus on a career, which would benefit a family.

For polygynous horned beetles, the same trade-off exists between allocating resources to developing mate-winning weaponry in the form of horns and having more sperm to increase fertilization. In one study, when researchers cut off the beetles' horns, the pupa reacted by developing larger testes, supporting a theory known as resource allocation trade-off.

Females in charge

For females, the drawbacks of sex with lots of partners include an increased probability of inbreeding, higher chances of predation, more risk of catching disease and physical injury or exhaustion from the frequent sex.

Even so, in some species, females "wear the pants." Called polyandry, by mating with multiple males, a mom can produce healthier offspring, and in some species, ensure devotion and help in child-raising by many fathers.

In a study of a mouse-like marsupial, scientists found that by sleeping around, females had a better chance of finding males with good-quality sperm and high sperm counts [video]. "So that means that females that mate with lots of males get more of their offspring sired by the good-quality males that increase the baby survival," Fisher told LiveScience, referring to the mouse-like marsupials.

In a lab study, researchers found that female guppies mating with four different males gave birth to 73 percent more young than their monogamous sisters. Plus, the young were more skilled at swimming in tandem with another fish and jetting out of trouble.

But strict polyandry, where one female guards a group of male mates, is rare. "The benefit for the female is quite clear, because if you have four husbands and you lay them each a clutch of eggs and they sit on it, you're doing much better than if you have one husband and you lay one clutch of eggs," Clutton-Brock said. "What's harder to explain is what the benefit to the male is."

Deciding factors

As with humans, animal mating often relies on a careful dance in which males and females develop ways of getting what they want without going too far and ending up empty handed.

The female Australian hanging fly will allow males that provide larger nuptial gifts to copulate longer, and in turn transfer more sperm, skewing paternity. Males providing insufficient gifts get flung off by the female before insemination is complete.

A study of 14 water-strider species found that species in which males had flat stomachs and powerful forelimbs for clutching lovers mated more frequently than species where females were in charge—those with spines protruding from their back ends. When the females had the upper hand, mating occurred about twice a day compared with 20 times a day in the male-dominating species.

Read Part 1: Mating Game: The Really Wild Kingdom
[ www.livescience.com ]

Read Part 2: Homosexual Animals Out of the Closet
[ www.livescience.com ]

Read Part 3: Wild Sex: Where Monogomy is Rare
[ www.livescience.com ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn a répondu le Sun 23 Sep, 2007 @ 11:53am
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yah, and us we're mostly monogamous (at least for a time) because our children take a long time to grow up, so the dad must play a strong part in raising it too...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Sun 23 Sep, 2007 @ 12:11pm
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No, we're monogamous because it's our instinct to mate with as many females as possible, and the church/religion made it be a "sin" to have un-married sex, and people were stupid enough to believe in that crap, and now it's been totally integrated into our society and way of thinking.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk a répondu le Sun 23 Sep, 2007 @ 12:23pm
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(For You NTK People)

what ntk are prude or they just sleep with anyone ?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear a répondu le Sun 23 Sep, 2007 @ 2:07pm
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No, I just posted that message to show that we all don't believe in the same beliefs for everything but that does not make us any less good of a person and there is nothing wrong with it. My beliefs never hurt anyone. Everyone has different beliefs from different religions to old Indian Tribes to African Tribes to Japanese Anime Artists and our beliefs in human society changed over the years. It's hard to forget that not even 100 years ago the people in this world thought very differently in almost every aspect (even in North America). Were they wrong. No, things were just different. There are 6 billion people in the world and most of them probably don't believe like you or you have been programmed by society to believe there is only one right for certain things.

I've always accepted everyone for how they are and whatever they believe in. It's time we all do the same. I posted this message because as humans we are in theory animals, and as you see in the animal kingdom, every animal is different, and who is to say what anyone does or thinks it better then another. Also because of all the rumors that starts for whatever reason. All I can say is don't believe they hype. Most of it is bull shit. I don't believe most of the crap I hear about most people, and just like you hear a lot of it, trust me so does everyone about everyone.

Don't believe the hype!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn a répondu le Sun 23 Sep, 2007 @ 4:44pm
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As long as everyone is happy with it and willing, and that no one is taken advatage of. :)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 5:20am
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so NTk are animals? im following everything except the part u said NTK hehe ! is this a disS?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 10:41am
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we're all animals, you know...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 10:54am
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No... I just said that because this weekend I heard some rumors floating around which were made up because some people don't like my philosophy of life. These rumors of course were false, but everyone of the NTK people seem to believe them. Something about me going to them during Eclipse and saying that their parties suck. I dunno why anyone would believe that I would say anything like that anyways. I don't think I ever thought any parties really sucked, especially the free ones. Why would I even attend events I thought sucked. It seems so primitive, but people believe it! Which is why I say don't believe the hype. As for the Animal Article, it's to show that we all have different philosophies in life. Is one more wrong then the other?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 12:13pm
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i would just like to point out at this juncture that the ntk girls are fine, and given the chance i'd..well, you know the rest...

...but ya, i agree with noah, i think we should all make the effort to cut the trash talk out, if you can't (or won't) say it to someones face keep it to your self, and second stop spreading hear-say, it's incredibly unreliable as a source of information.

ofcourse it doesn't matter how many times peoples say shit like i just said it never ends.

but back to the ntk girls, like i said pure goddesses.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 12:23pm
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what is NTK?
w/e people are going to gossip no matter what anyone does, the key is to take everything you hear and I mean everything with a grain of salt. If you believe everything that everyone says, you obviously have no opinion of your own.

and as for mating, it doesn't make sense to be monogamous, people die, and not always of old age, men should want to spread there seed and women should protect their genes as well, but that has nothing to do with choosing one partner. Birth control is the real problem... we're cheating our own existence.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 12:32pm
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Hmm, I guess it depends of the people.
Personnaly I'm more into long-term relationships, something serious and stable, but let's say my boyfriend dies, or if it doesn't work anymore, well I guess I'll find another one lol. I'm just not into one-nights or things like that.

And for choosing a parter.. Pheromones!!!! ^__^
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 12:45pm
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We're not cheating our own existance. We're overpopulated. Birth control is beneficial to the survival of our species.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 12:58pm
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I agree. I'd wipe out a quarter of humanity if I could, it would be good for the whole ecosystem.
And birth control make us unafraid to have sex. I mean, you don't have to worry too much about getting pregnant, you can do it for fun, for love. No stress :)
Also condom --> no AIDS :)
I don't see anything negative with bith control, honestly.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 4:05pm
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don't get me wrong, I use birth control (i'm on the pill)(waht?!?1?!)
but truth is the strong and smart are not reproducing, while the poor, weak and dumb are spawning like mad... this is contrary to usual progression of evolution, which shows just how perverted we are as a developed species.

I also find it most suiting to have only one partner, not that diseases are a big problem here, but because it's so much more fulfilling to have someone you can trust with your most private self... and I've never disliked seconds!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moohk a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 4:37pm
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ntk are animals!!! ele-octopus and hibou-cuckoos, salamantarays, t-rex's, octonocerous, jellycats and slooses ... and green legs and wham.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 4:38pm
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jellycats sound like fun.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moohk a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 4:54pm
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... hehe listen closely to the closing narration:

....."finally their strange, poletic relationship comes to an end - with a bump" ..

sounds like ntk to me

wild wild animals
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk a répondu le Mon 24 Sep, 2007 @ 5:34pm
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so, ntk's are doing orgies or what?

i dont understand crap
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http://[video]www.youtube.com/v/sHzdsFiBbFc[/video ]
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