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Nasa Plans Moon Base
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine a répondu le Tue 5 Dec, 2006 @ 10:31am |
 Coolness: 51060 | (This is a transcript from PM. The program is broadcast around Australia at 5:10pm on Radio National and 6:10pm on ABC Local Radio.)
PM - Tuesday, 5 December , 2006 21:17:05 Reporter: Conor Duffy MARK COLVIN: It's 34 years this month since human beings last walked on the moon, but now humanity could be on its way back there. The US space agency NASA has announced plans to set up a self-sustaining lunar station on the moon around the year 2020. The moon station would be used as a stepping-stone to a possible landing and settlement on Mars. Conor Duffy reports. NASA WEBSITE: Have you ever considered living on the moon? You could be a pioneer who begins the settlement of the moon and the planet. CONOR DUFFY: That's the NASA pitch to potential moon dwellers. The US space agency has announced plans for a permanent settlement on the moon, starting in 2020. Space consultant and former NASA employee Charles Vick says NASA will start with a single landing and weeklong stints by astronauts. CHARLES VICK: Initially we start with a vehicle that is effectively our lander. It is a major national task to be able to do this. CONOR DUFFY: Building it will be tough enough, living there may be even harder. CHARLES VICK: Near pitch black and its near completely as cold as you could ask it to be, minus whatever it is. There are areas that have not seen sunlight for as long as humanity knows. CONOR DUFFY: Mr Vick says that as well as the difficult weather, there's also storms more powerful than any cyclone, hurricane or earthquake to contend with, making underground living a must. CHARLES VICK: Solar storms especially; you must put the shelters underground. CONOR DUFFY: Most of our listeners wouldn't be aware of what a space storm or a solar storm is. Could you talk us through what it would be like to experience one? CHARLES VICK: Basically a powerful radiation storm, somewhat like the effects of a nuclear blast, except you're getting all the radiation in a concentrated way that can be quite deadly. CONOR DUFFY: NASA says the base will also be used as a stepping stone for a possible mission to Mars and it's looking for international help for the journey. Les Dalyrmple, an editor with Australian Sky and telescope magazine hopes Australia will have a role in the $17 billion a year project. LES DALYRMPLE: Well it could be, and I think it would be wonderful if we could be involved. CONOR DUFFY: Mr Dalrymple says that as well as the technology needed to build the station, new technologies will be needed to eventually mine the moon and help enable the first manned mission to Mars. LES DALYRMPLE: Obviously, if people are going to exist on the moon, they need water. We believe that it is quite possible that at the lunar poles, there are significant reservoirs of ice, water ice, which can be mined, not only for human consumption and to grow plants and all sorts of things. But even just as importantly, rocket fuel - that is liquid rocket fuel - is obviously made from water. It's a combination of liquid hydrogen, and liquid oxygen. CONOR DUFFY: And flowing on from that, I understand a key purpose of the station will be to launch a mission to Mars? LES DALYRMPLE: Well, in the end, that's the idea. Of course, if we're going to go to Mars, there are a lot of technologies and a lot of strategies that are going to need to be not only tried, but they're going to have to be tested, and proven again and again and again. And of course the most convenient place to do that is of course, the moon. It's somewhere where we can crash - if I could put it that way - where it won't hurt too badly. We know that the moon is only three or four days away by rocket. If you send somebody to Mars, and something goes wrong, they are beyond rescue. MARK COLVIN: The moon as the ultimate crash pad. Les Dalyrmple from Australian Sky and Telescope Magazine, ending Conor Duffy's report. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Tue 5 Dec, 2006 @ 10:41am |
 Coolness: 685680 | Living on the moon is totally not something entierly feasible just yet. And even if they do succede and build a succesful lunar colony, anyone who spends any amount of time up there will have tons of muscle problems from the lower gravity. Anyone born and raised on the moon would also not ever be able to come to earth, their bones and muscles would be a lot weaker and our gravity would break them. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Tue 5 Dec, 2006 @ 11:05am |
 Coolness: 339755 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
Living on the moon is totally not something entierly feasible just yet. And even if they do succede and build a succesful lunar colony, anyone who spends any amount of time up there will have tons of muscle problems from the lower gravity. Anyone born and raised on the moon would also not ever be able to come to earth, their bones and muscles would be a lot weaker and our gravity would break them. ... exercise maybe? gravity might be less there, but that just means they'd have to life more weight.. it's still very possible to keep fit on the moon.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Tue 5 Dec, 2006 @ 11:46am |
| Coolness: 685680 | It's got nothing to do with excercise, it's entierly to do with the diffrence in gravity. You can excercise all you want, your bones will not be used to supporting your actual weight on earth. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey a répondu le Tue 5 Dec, 2006 @ 11:58am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn a répondu le Tue 5 Dec, 2006 @ 3:13pm |
| Coolness: 178735 | C'est vrai, même si tu fais de l'exercice dans l'espace (comme les astronautes le font), tes os et tes muscles s'atrophient pareil. Sur la lune, la gravité est 6 fois moins forte qu'ici. Il y en a quand même, mais je pense pas que ça soit assez pour empêcher les os de se détériorer.
N'ah, si on attends 2-3 millions d'années, j'imagine que les humains vont s'être adaptés à la gravité de la Lune. Mais je suis sure qu'ils pourront jamais s'adapter à kekchose d'encore plus essentiel: y'a pas d'air sur la Lune! Pas d'eau! Pas de bouffe! Pas de couche d'ozone pour nous protéger du Soleil! Tant qu'à aller sur la Lune pis devoir porter un suit tout le temps, pis être tout le temps stressé par peur de manquer d'air ou d'eau... j'aime mieux rester sur la Terre. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine a répondu le Tue 5 Dec, 2006 @ 3:26pm |
| Coolness: 51060 | good to know that the fine patrons of ravewave are ever so much more knowledgeable in the current technological and physiological limitations of man in space than even NASA is............. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Tue 5 Dec, 2006 @ 4:00pm |
| Coolness: 339755 | Originally Posted By MORPHINE
good to know that the fine patrons of ravewave are ever so much more knowledgeable in the current technological and physiological limitations of man in space than even NASA is............. Why did you post this on ravewave then? I think you got lost, here's the site for you. [ www.nasawave.com ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Wed 6 Dec, 2006 @ 1:34am |
 Coolness: 145290 | Originally Posted By MORPHINE GOOD TO KNOW THAT THE FINE PATRONS OF RAVEWAVE ARE EVER SO MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THE CURRENT TECHNOLOGICAL AND PHYSIOLOGICAL LIMITATIONS OF MAN IN SPACE THAN EVEN NASA IS.............
ohhh that was priceless!!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Wed 6 Dec, 2006 @ 1:45am |
| Coolness: 685680 | Yeah, the www.nsbri.org ] loss is [ ] undocumented by [url=science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast01oct_1.htm">anyone. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack a répondu le Wed 6 Dec, 2006 @ 12:03pm |
| Coolness: 71525 | 17billion is silly ridiculous
if that could be spent making planet earth a better place... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Wed 6 Dec, 2006 @ 1:16pm |
| Coolness: 339755 | Space research leads to discoveries that cannot be made on earth.. it helps us in ways most wouldn't consider. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack a répondu le Wed 6 Dec, 2006 @ 3:55pm |
| Coolness: 71525 | yeah i reconsidered that there are reasons beyond my feeble existence to physically colonize outer space |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Wed 6 Dec, 2006 @ 4:14pm |
| Coolness: 339755 | good of you to understand. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Wizdumb a répondu le Wed 6 Dec, 2006 @ 9:19pm |
 Coolness: 122400 | whatever gets people off the planet |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey a répondu le Thu 7 Dec, 2006 @ 11:28am |
| Coolness: 102855 | Madeskimo,
read this [ science.slashdot.org ] and you will understand why pouring billions of dollars in science is so ever important. I can try to explain it, but there are insightful posts there that can explain it way better than me. if you still think 17 billions is ridiculous... then look up how much the US spend on maintaining ONE supercarrier per year.. and i think they have either have 11 or 12 of them..... Oh WAR cost a lot too. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack a répondu le Thu 7 Dec, 2006 @ 1:21pm |
| Coolness: 71525 | poverty and US national debt and the IMF is a joke Mise À Jour » beercrack a écrit sur Thu 7 Dec, 2006 @ 1:24pm a higly protected and enforced hermetic joke Mise À Jour » beercrack a écrit sur Thu 7 Dec, 2006 @ 1:30pm but once again the politics behind international macro and micro economy and the balance of power and access to intelligence is generally beyond me... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD a répondu le Fri 8 Dec, 2006 @ 1:25pm |
 Coolness: 509650 | all the more proof that money means NOTHING!!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack a répondu le Sat 9 Dec, 2006 @ 10:31am |
| Coolness: 71525 | as a means to an end it is just that a means
but remove it and the end is not quite the same is it that's just loaded and contrived to say that this is fantasy palace for most of us anyways... carry on |
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