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Liberals And Conservatives Are In A Dead Heat For Canadian Support
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer a répondu le Wed 18 Oct, 2006 @ 10:00am |
 Coolness: 92350 | A new poll suggests Liberals and Conservatives are in a dead heat for Canadian support -- even though the Liberal party has yet to decide on its next leader.
[ CTV.ca ] News Staff When asked which political party Canadians would likely vote for if an election were held today, each of the two parties received the support of 32 per cent of those surveyed. What the poll shows, said CTV's Ottawa Bureau Chief Robert Fife, is the "resilience of the Liberal Party." "The Liberal Party, even though it does not have a leader, has a lot of solid foundations in the country and people are comfortable with a lot of the values of the Liberal Party," Fife said Wednesday on Canada AM. With the controversy over the Afghanistan mission, concerns over the Conservative government's environmental policy, and Prime Minister Stephen Harper's recent statements accusing Liberal leadership candidates of being anti-Israel, Fife said "people seem to be gravitating back to the Liberal Party." The poll, conducted Oct. 12-15 by The Strategic Counsel for CTV News and The Globe and Mail, also indicates the Green Party has made the largest gain in support since the January 2006 election results. Here is where the parties now stand (percentage-point change from the election results in brackets): Rae edges Ignatieff Canadians said they would pick Stephen Harper as prime minister over any of the major Liberal leadership candidates if an election were to be held today. But among the Liberal candidates, Bob Rae came out tops as the favourite to take on Harper. Rae faired slightly better than Michael Ignatieff, the perceived front-runner in the race, with 26 per cent of respondents saying he'd make the best prime minister, compared to 23 per cent for Ignatieff. In Ontario, where Rae was the NDP premier during a tough recession in the 1990s, he had 29 per cent -- a surprising seven-percentage-point lead over Ignatieff. Harper, on the other hand, managed 37 per cent. In Quebec, Ignatieff had the strongest support at 28 per cent, while Harper received 20 per cent. In Ontario, Harper led with 43 per cent, compared with Ignatieff's relatively low 22 per cent. Quebec While Ontarians seem to be comfortable with Harper's Conservatives, the news is much more sobering in Quebec where the party has been sliding in the polls since May. While the Tories were the first choice for 30 per cent of Quebec voters in May, that number drops to 16 per cent today. The party received 25 per cent of Quebec votes in the Jan. 23 election. Fife said the fact Harper is doing well in Ontario is significant, "because Ontario has, over the last 15 years, been traditionally voting Liberal. Ontario now seems to be comfortable with the Conservatives -- but Mr. Harper's problem lies in Quebec." Fife said Canada's participation in the war in Afghanistan is affecting Tory popularity in the province. Also working against Harper's Conservatives in Quebec is their position on the Kyoto accord and their insistence on holding a vote on reopening the issue of same-sex marriage. "This is a problem area for Mr. Harper," said Fife. "It's not to say it can't be fixed, but it is a worrisome one for him." The Liberals, meanwhile, would be the first choice of 28 per cent of Quebeckers under the leadership of Ignatieff. Rae was the next most popular Liberal in the province, with 25 per cent support, followed closely by Stephane Dion (24 per cent). Gerard Kennedy trails behind at 14 per cent. In fact, Kennedy was the only Liberal leader to fall below Harper when it comes to support in the province. The West The survey suggests another problem area for the Conservatives is Western Canada. While the Tories still hold a significant lead in their party's heartland, support is at 42 per cent -- down seven percentage points since the election. The Liberals, meanwhile, are up four points to 27 in the West, while the NDP are up two points to 22 per cent. The Green Party saw their support at about 10 per cent in the West. Strategic Counsel Chairman Allan Gregg suggested the drop in Tory support may be taking place in British Columbia, where the Conservatives have traditionally been up and down in popularity. The poll was taken during a week in which the government's plans for new environmental legislation met sharp criticism. "We know British Columbians are far and away the most environmentally concerned and sensitive," Gregg told The Globe and Mail. Technical notes Interviews for the poll were conducted between Oct. 12 and 15. For national results, about 1,000 people were interviewed across Canada, with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 per cent. The sample size for Ontario was 379 respondents, and the margin of error was plus or minus 5 per cent. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine a répondu le Wed 18 Oct, 2006 @ 2:13pm |
 Coolness: 51055 | i saw ignatieff speak at concordia last year. it wasnt about politics mind you, but the guy seems honest, thoughtful and very well-spoken. this recent thing over comments about israeli war crimes seems to be affecting his popularity though... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer a répondu le Wed 18 Oct, 2006 @ 2:39pm |
| Coolness: 92350 | I don't know anything about Ignatieff but I sure as hell don't want a prime minister who's too afraid to speak against a certain country just because the people who formed that country went through the holocaust. So the fact that he actually had the balls to say that is + points for me and not indicative at all of being anti-israel, it's indicative of having fair judgement and not letting people get away with shit just because it'll piss them off. A terrorist is a terrorist and a war crime is a war crime no matter who the fuck you are. Plus a lot of political leaders called it a war crime and didn't the U.N vote that it was one? The reason I say Stehane Dion is because of his environmental views/Kyoto participation and cause he's from QC but I don't know anything of the others. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» m4xom4x a répondu le Wed 18 Oct, 2006 @ 3:47pm |
 Coolness: 44380 | Interesting |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Thu 19 Oct, 2006 @ 11:38am |
 Coolness: 201310 | Bashing Israel these days doesn't take balls it is basically preaching the the far-left masses, and Concordia has hoards of them.
Bashing Israel at Concordia will get you a standing ovation, but if you say anything remotely critical of fundamentalist muslims you will have a riot on your hands. Has anyone seen any large groups of jews/israel supporters trashing concordia? Nope, the riot was instigated by pro-palestinian groups. Why? Because they didn't want to let someone speak (Netenyahu). Typical far-left tactics of silencing out people you don't agree with. Mise À Jour » nothingnopenope a écrit sur Thu 19 Oct, 2006 @ 11:41am an in case anyone is wondering, I do not say these things to piss people off on purposes. I believe everyone should have a right to speak on any issue. Whether they are pro-israel or speaking out against certain elements of it. If you don't hear both sides of an issue you end up blind and stupid like so many people at concordia.
Mature people do not riot when someone they don't like shows up for a talk. Violent, fascist people do that. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer a répondu le Thu 19 Oct, 2006 @ 12:28pm |
| Coolness: 92350 | What both sides of the issue? Mise À Jour » moondancer a écrit sur Thu 19 Oct, 2006 @ 12:28pm A suicide bomber is a terrorist and a war crime is a war crime. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Thu 19 Oct, 2006 @ 1:01pm |
 Coolness: 339750 | If the US sent 133,000 troops into Canada to "liberate" us from our government.. what would you do? Bend over and take it?
I sure as fuck wouldn't. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Thu 19 Oct, 2006 @ 1:26pm |
| Coolness: 201310 | Are you referring to Iraq? That's not what I was talking about.
Most people would agree that campaign was a horrible failure, with questionable motives. And in reference to the topic of this thread, Canada is not involved in Iraq and never should be. However, if some high profile person were speaking at Concordia or anywhere else in our city who approves of the Iraq compaign and is involved in American politics, we should let them speak. That's what free speech is. Storming a stage or causing a riot and not letting someone speak goes against everything we believe in as a democratic country with free speech. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer a répondu le Thu 19 Oct, 2006 @ 1:52pm |
| Coolness: 92350 | that's true and I agree with you that they should have let him speak but I do realise also that not letting him speak was their way of speaking to him. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine a répondu le Thu 19 Oct, 2006 @ 4:06pm |
| Coolness: 51055 | so then those people who prevented netanyahu from speaking, thereby undermining the concepts of free speech, were simply practicing free speech? is this what you are saying? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Thu 19 Oct, 2006 @ 5:34pm |
| Coolness: 201310 | protesting is one thing, causing a violent riot to shut down the entire assembly and cause havoc is not. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer a répondu le Fri 20 Oct, 2006 @ 12:48am |
| Coolness: 92350 | I told you already that I think it was immature of them not to let him speak as well as disrespectful and closed-minded. Technically they were practicing free speech although it was done with violence and regardless of whether we agree with the message. When Bush comes and people throw rocks at him that's people giving him a message and that's not any better. I didn't defend it and I'm not going to, I am simply stating what it is, I am not saying that it makes the situation any different or better, simply that it was the way they chose to communicate a message, a very bad way. Mise À Jour » moondancer a écrit sur Fri 20 Oct, 2006 @ 1:05am I honestly find what they did embarassing. Disrespectful is not a strong enough word. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD a répondu le Tue 24 Oct, 2006 @ 3:53pm |
 Coolness: 509645 | sux that we are all so divided... Why can't we voters decide the shit that congress decides instead of them making all the decisions and us choosing them based on what tiny bit of bad information we actually get. sux |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn a répondu le Tue 24 Oct, 2006 @ 5:02pm |
| Coolness: 178730 | true. on dirait qu'une fois qu'ils sont élus, ils font ce qu'ils veulent. |
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