Mozilla More Vulnerable Than Ie?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Tue 20 Sep, 2005 @ 3:08pm |
 Coolness: 685535 | ---- [ ] Web browsers are potentially more vulnerable to attack than Microsoft's Internet Explorer, according to a Symantec report. ---- So is now a good time to point out that [ Opera">www.opera.com ] is now completely free? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Tue 20 Sep, 2005 @ 3:10pm |
 Coolness: 339610 | I question symantec on this one. who knows if they're in microsoft's pocket.
and just because in the past month there have been more major security problems doesn't mean that it's overall less secure.. even the most secure applications can be made insecure by stupid users.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Tue 20 Sep, 2005 @ 3:14pm |
| Coolness: 685535 | I think you need to take a better look at the chart on the first link. Past month is an understatement, try 40 in the past seven, as opposed to 10 from the IE camp in the same period. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Tue 20 Sep, 2005 @ 3:17pm |
| Coolness: 339610 | and the actual total of both.. ? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Tue 20 Sep, 2005 @ 3:21pm |
| Coolness: 685535 | well, obviously IE is going to have "more", because it's been around longer for them to have been discovered. But let's take a look at, say, since SP2 was released. How many exploits in the time frame since then have there been discovered for IE and for Firefox? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Smurf a répondu le Tue 20 Sep, 2005 @ 3:47pm |
 Coolness: 42945 | ok.
facts: FireFox (which i use) NEVER was more secure than IE. It ALWAYS had more vulnerabilties and holes than IE. The only advantage (security wise) of using firefox was that it was not used much so malware creators, hackers, etc, would not waste their time on something that was not used by enough ppl. Now that it is, and especially when they realised how badly protected it is, they decided it was now profitable to work on firefox also. the only good reason to use firefox is the tabbed mode and anti-microsoft interests. When the next IE is out, its gonna rape firefox. i hate having to defend microsoft, but ppl got it all wrong about ms and security. They are the leader. Windows XP is safer than 99.9% Linux version. Again, its just that ppl dont spend as much time trying to break into something that does not have much use. Lets say you wanted to create some virus that sent back credit cards # and infos. Why would you waste days making it work for unix, linux, macos, solaris, when you reach 90% of the ppl with computer that use credit cards online through a windows virus? i hate microsoft for his policies, not its products, and since it was fashion to hate microsoft, ppl are doing it without any knowledge of why. Brainwashing is child's play. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog a répondu le Tue 20 Sep, 2005 @ 3:49pm |
 Coolness: 97045 | sure, all Mozilla's softwares have fucking shitty bloated code, but I am not sure that all exploits were severe and could compromise all your OS.
Sure thing, it's nice to have this little update checker in Firefox/Thunderbird to check for new version of the software and of the extensions! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Tue 20 Sep, 2005 @ 4:00pm |
| Coolness: 685535 | Originally posted by SMURF...
the only good reason to use firefox is the tabbed mode ...which Opera's had since it came out in 96. Along with Mouse Gestures... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl a répondu le Tue 20 Sep, 2005 @ 4:09pm |
 Coolness: 55445 | Originally posted by [SCREWHEAD]...
well, obviously IE is going to have "more", because it's been around longer for them to have been discovered. no, that's NOT why it has more overall. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Tue 20 Sep, 2005 @ 4:15pm |
| Coolness: 685535 | Yeah, obviously Firefox having been out for less time than IE has absolutely nothing to do with the amount of vulnerabilities that have been discovered for it. A 10 year head start of finding IE vulnerabilities means nothing. They should have found every single Firefox vulnerability years before it was even thought of. In fact, all off them should have been adressed before the internet was invented, just to make sure. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl a répondu le Tue 20 Sep, 2005 @ 4:25pm |
| Coolness: 55445 | it is entirely related to how microsoft tied the windows scripting host into allowing direct access to scripting objects inside the operating system. This made it possible to bypass product interfaces and in fact access almost all OS functionality through a scripted language. Therefore, 90 percent of windows functionality could be compromised by a malicious script. All MS products share the same wsh architecture to allow for seamless integration, and this made IE the gateway for malicious scripting.
As someone who has extensively coded for wsh and used the OS objects, I am pretty familiar with the strengths / faults of the windows OS from this perspective. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» lakester a répondu le Wed 21 Sep, 2005 @ 12:31am |
 Coolness: 59625 | Smurf is exactly right on this. It never has been an issue of Firefox being more secure. The mast majority of exploits target IE simply because the vast majority of those susceptible to exploits use IE. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Wed 21 Sep, 2005 @ 12:39am |
 Coolness: 201170 | IE is closed source so nobody really knows how many bugs it has... Firefox the code is available for anyone to see so obviously they will find more bugs.. generally they respond very quick to any serious bug.. where as microsoft you have to wait quite a while to get a patch |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Wed 21 Sep, 2005 @ 8:25am |
| Coolness: 339610 | i'd say the biggest problem with firefox is people using old versions of it.
most people don't upgrade once they start using FF.. so many probably still have 1.0.1 or possibly older.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» thaifun a répondu le Wed 21 Sep, 2005 @ 8:54am |
| Coolness: 34135 | is it right to say opera is (just) abit more secure than firefox because it doesnt support some "special active x thingys" ?
i noticed several sites worked in both IE and FF. then I tried switched to opera and it didnt work anymore... sorry i dunno much about "special active x thingys" ...so if noone understands i could search for a detalied description of this "special active x thingys" |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Wed 21 Sep, 2005 @ 8:58am |
| Coolness: 339610 | ActiveX is garbage and shouldn't be touched by anyone who wants to continue using their computer.
ActiveX basically loads an application (capable of doing anything a regular .exe can do) right into the browser. It used to be that ActiveX was on by default which was ridiculous because it opens your computer up like a free carpet sale. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» thaifun a répondu le Wed 21 Sep, 2005 @ 9:05am |
| Coolness: 34135 | thanks...it appears that some few sites (I trust them) need it to be enabled....
I know its dangerous like **** to enable it in general. I just wonder why they didnt include an option to allow it on some certain sites which u tell your operabrowser.... or would it be another fault.. cuz maybe someone could find a way to enable it without permission, somehow? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nitrous_N2O a répondu le Wed 21 Sep, 2005 @ 9:40am |
 Coolness: 125370 | I still only swer by Firefox.
Version 1.5 available soon Beta version available to download for free on their website. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Wed 21 Sep, 2005 @ 10:14am |
| Coolness: 339610 | my only problems with FF is that there are a number of misrendering problems.. (didn't seem to exist in older versions)
but it's still better than IE since FF actually follows the DOM and CSS properly... not to mention superior javascript handling. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nitrous_N2O a répondu le Wed 21 Sep, 2005 @ 10:26am |
| Coolness: 125370 | No pop-ups anymore with Firefox, what is good. |
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