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A Call To All P2p Users
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente a répondu le Thu 6 Jan, 2005 @ 10:54pm |
 Coolness: 299315 | A call to all P2P users
As of late the MPAA's and RIAA's of the world are claiming that we are denying them their justly earned money and are trying to find ways to put an end to this supposed loss through litigation. It would seem that their scare tactics have been fruitful as they keep getting settlements out of court and probably generate even more profit from these activities. The aim of their campaign, of course, is not to target and eradicate file sharing as much as it is an attempt to control the market and dictate where and on what our hard earned money is spent. The wealthiest, nowadays, decide what we listen to and watch using staggering public relations campaigns; most releases are "format" productions where talent, passion and creativity come after profits and greed. Most of us feel that they should look into wider availability and more affordable pricing instead of claiming higher moral ground as an excuse to prop up an outdated and failing business model. Ironically, dramatic theaters, opera houses and so forth are desperately trying to find an audience among the "common" people, as their traditionally highbrow image is not allowing them to be competitive. However, the production companies are working towards a dangerous inaccessibility for regular people. It is natural that we want to be able to watch the movies and listen to the music; it has always been and always will be. Hence, we turn to file sharing, and/or borrow CD's from our friends and so forth. Availability and affordable prices How many have bought a CD or watched a movie that turned out to be less than satisfactory? How many have felt cheated after a night out at the movies, having gone there after seeing trailers, commercials, and posters for another big box office release that turned out to be one of those "let's save the movie company a few bucks by fooling people into watching this dud during the first weekend" flicks? How many get sick to their stomachs while hearing about revenue losses after viewing an episode of "Cribs" on MTV? The production companies have the audacity to say that we are using people's creativity and talent, without paying for it. Well, guess what? Most P2P users actually do buy the products they like! We continue to see fantasy figures about the kind of revenues the production companies would have had, if only their products were not obtainable online. Of course, it is complete and utter nonsense. They seem to be oblivious to the highly human trait they themselves possess: The Experience of Ownership. Everybody wants to own things. A pirated copy can never live up to the experience of a movie theatre or replace the sense of pride that comes from having a collector’s edition sitting on your bookshelf. Even those who the entertainment industry would paint as criminals are consumers too. To prove this, we call out to all that have shared a file, downloaded something online or think that prices are outrageous; Let us send a message to the entertainment industry leadership. The last week in April 2005 - 24th up until and including 30th - show them how much money we are spending on their products by denying them our hard earned income. Do not go to the movies; do not buy any entertainment products during that week. This is not to be confused as saying, "go pirate everything you can find as the production companies are common robbers." Instead, this is a way to show that we are indeed supporting them already, so stop fighting your customers! Show them we mean business! Spread the word everywhere you can think of. [ www.p2punite.net ] |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Sat 8 Jan, 2005 @ 12:40am |
 Coolness: 339655 | what movie's are coming out that weekend?
(if the theater's do badly they'll merely attribute it to the movie being a dud or lack of advertising..) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl a répondu le Sat 8 Jan, 2005 @ 1:49am |
 Coolness: 55490 | these kinds of things never work. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SMK a répondu le Sat 8 Jan, 2005 @ 10:04am |
 Coolness: 36400 | Music is the marketing tool. It should be free or given at COST.
If an artist wants to make MONEY - Go on tour, the Rolling Stones might be damn old, but they TOUR. TOURING makes money. Not selling albums, and even then, LABELS make money. Not artists. Don't give me 42 MIN CD's with 12 3:30 min songs. Thats called an EP. I wish i could buy 45 RPM with 2 songs for 1$ like in the 80's. Not force us to buy all you crap. I might just like one song. Heck if it's a one hit wonder, COOL. I have tarzan boy on 45, i have playing on ritz - I EVEN HAVE CELEBRATION FROM KOOL AND THE GANG. Dude, I am so proud! Movies are a totally another thing Everyone has to make a buck. Gotta survive. Problem is - Middle Men - Marking up 10 times the worth. Why do you thing we like Walmart? Bigger selection cheaper prices. Artists should use their influence and uninionize themselves - Make their own music and release it any way they want. Anyhoo! SMK |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Sat 8 Jan, 2005 @ 10:32am |
| Coolness: 339655 | movies are somewhat more appropriately priced given the costs of the production.. BUT the cost of production is so bloody high because EVERYONE involved in movies are so overpaid, litterally everyone. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente a répondu le Sat 8 Jan, 2005 @ 4:40pm |
| Coolness: 299315 | torrentreactor has been shut down. nothing much is left |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Sat 8 Jan, 2005 @ 7:40pm |
| Coolness: 339655 | i've still got my private one. yaye. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 a répondu le Sat 8 Jan, 2005 @ 11:46pm |
 Coolness: 159110 | Funny how music artists are called " artists " since the industry clearly does not see music as art. They see it as a fat dollar sign.
Paintings and sculptures are considered art as well but most of the profits go to the artist directly. Shit, digitized versions of Da Vinci's Mona Lisa get copied several times a day and you don't see the Louvres Museum bitching about it. Granted, painters and sculptors do not require as much publicity but in this day and age of the internet ( which seems to be viewed by a lot of people as a great unregulated marketing tool ), I hardly see the justification in giving back the artist less than 10% of profits while 90% are spent on production ( somewhat undestandable ) and publicity ( with so much is spent in that area, I would consider it mass-brainwashing ). I cringe when I see one of those posters of Stefie Shock deploring music piracy : 
Why ? Although I'm tempted to say the music he produces is reason enough to bash my head on the wall several dozen times, I'm sort of insulted he directs his anger of poor sales towards US, the consumer ( dude, piracy has nothing to do with it : your music doesn't sell because it sucks ), instead of directing it towards his producer and record label who surely laughs all the way to the bank in limos and bitch about piracy when his/her bi-yearly monthly trip to Cancun is cut short one week because of " losses ". If at least 30% and up of profits went DIRECTLY to the artists who created the very same music that labels are shamelessly using to fatten their pockets, I'd be much more tempted to buy CDs. In the meantime, I'll use P2P thank you. :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl a répondu le Mon 10 Jan, 2005 @ 12:51am |
| Coolness: 55490 | Originally posted by EL LEADER MAXIMO...
torrentreactor has been shut down. nothing much is left there are tons of torrent sites still up. [ torrentspy.com ] and [ lokitorrent.com ] for example. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl a répondu le Mon 10 Jan, 2005 @ 12:53am |
| Coolness: 55490 | if you think stefie shock is some big time artist who lives a lavish life then think again. A big release in a tiny market like Quebec's franco-rock sector is 50 000 copies sold. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 a répondu le Mon 10 Jan, 2005 @ 10:05am |
| Coolness: 159110 | That's what I'm saying, his agent surely makes more money than he does through record sales, not him. I'm sure Mr.Shock does not drive around in a Mercedes-Benz considering the small cut he's making out of all this.
Besides, a lot of Qc artists whine about sales here until they hit it big in France. Then again, you're making a french album for a 95% english continent, you HAVE to expect not going platinum in a month. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn a répondu le Mon 10 Jan, 2005 @ 10:27am |
| Coolness: 178635 | tee hee
With electronica it's different: no lyrics so it's universal ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PaRaNoiD a répondu le Tue 11 Jan, 2005 @ 12:57am |
 Coolness: 41665 | The warez scene was quite better 3-4 years ago, no one was whining about p2p because there was no such a thing yet... I remember razor 1911 :P.
and for the music, I remember that before p2p programs, ftps and irc was the best source for downloading mp3's |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Tue 11 Jan, 2005 @ 7:13am |
| Coolness: 339655 | Hotline was the bomb 6 years ago,. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear a répondu le Tue 11 Jan, 2005 @ 8:19am |
 Coolness: 2603975 | I ran a distro BBS for PWA (Maximum Entropy) courrier RAT and an FTP for AVALON, KYLIN and SKELETON ARMY (Slamdunk)... Everything was just easier, faster and better then but I'm sure all this stuff still exists but I'm just not in the know anymore. |
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