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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» A_Princess a répondu le Wed 28 Jul, 2004 @ 1:03pm
a_princess
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As many of u might know, there is an ethnic cleansing going on in Sudan. About 1 million people are estimated to be killed within the near future. Thousands of women are being systematically raped by Sudanese and Janjawid militia.

Amnesty Internation is asking that u write letters to all parties involved urging them to take immediate action to end the civil wars and ethnic cleansing in Sudan.

I included the link which includes everything u need to say and where to send the letters. It'll take 10 minutes of your time so please, get writing.

[ www.amnesty.ca ]
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc a répondu le Wed 28 Jul, 2004 @ 5:52pm
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jesus... this is why i stopped watching cnn.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY a répondu le Wed 28 Jul, 2004 @ 9:02pm
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I doubt CNN would even cover this. As far as most Americans are concerned, if it doesn't directly involve them it might as well had never happened.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 3:08am
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letters? how about nukes?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» daFTWin a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 3:20am
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No offence but I think the idea here is that they DONT die..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 11:51am
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No offence either but do you really think that a gouvernement that's killing it's own citizens, that doesn't give two fucks about the E-U and other sanctions, is gonna listen to green peace and random people from world urging it to stop.

Dream on.

You know how they're gonna help them?

By selling weapons to the persecuted so they make money off their backs and then let them fight for their lives.

That's how it happens in real life.

Maybe you care for real, maybe you're doing this out of good intentions, but it's never gonna work.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» A_Princess a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 12:00pm
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Amnesty has accomplished a lot through peaceful intervention and by raising international pressure. So ya, maybe its a long shot but its better than just reading about it and feeling fustrated.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 12:01pm
eldee
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Trust me, I know
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 12:05pm
eldee
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From this point on, it's gonna be pure bureaucracy as usual.

It's gonna take at least a month or two to prepare the troops and all

now count how many innocents will be tortured, raped, killed, devastated, by the time anyone lifts a finger.

You get my frustration now?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 12:08pm
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And that's if they decide to send UN troops today which is unlikely to happen, so add 2-3 months till they come back from vacation, a couple of days for writing the resolution,then a vote at the UN, schedule a security council meeting, have another resolution for the security council, a vote, and if the vote passes only then they'll act.

So add at least another hardcore 7-10 months of suffering for those poor people.

And don't call me hypocrit, I'm just being realistic from now on.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 1:02pm
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I agree with eldar. A bunch of letters saying "stop the horror" wont even make it to the officials desks.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» A_Princess a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 1:09pm
a_princess
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Eldar, keep our shit private, k thx. And Jeff, you'd be surprised. I've gotton letters back from the people i've sent them to. Surprised me too. And like i said, officials have acted when faced with internation pressure. Its saved a lot of POW's unjustly detained. Maybe a whole country is a different story but its worth my 10 minutes.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 3:47pm
violence_inc
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well from what they've told you. Remember you shouldn't believe it, unless you see it.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» blop a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 3:54pm
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eldar what are you talking about. as if you ever lived through a war. as if you ever saw your relatives blown away in front of you.

god. get a clue.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 6:11pm
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Sharon, you don't have any slightest clue about what you're talking about.

I came to Canada in '93, I lived through 3 years of the civil war for your information.

If you have no clue what that war was like then watch 'Welcome to Sarajevo' and 'Shot trough the heart' and then come talk to me. It was the worst civil ethnic cleansing in europe since WW2 so immagine.

And my relatives weren't blown away in front of me...

My grand-parents were killed, shot point blank in their heads and had all the stuff from their house stolen. I'll post the picture of the holes that the bullets made when they exited trough the back of their heads.

In the house 500 meters away they burned alive 7 people.. 3 kids, their parents and their grandparents. The whole town population had a similar fate. Not many escaped. And I heard all the gunshots from my town.

Now how do you think it feels to be so powerless when your own grandparents are being shot to death 2 kilometers away?

We could only go outside from 8am till noon, if you went out after those hours you'd get shot by a sniper, it's not a pretty sight of somebody lying on the street with their head blown off, it's nothing like what you see in the movies.

They cut the water and electricity, so kids had to go get it in the morning or else their parents would be taken away and killed.

Living 3 years in fear and darkness hoping that a shell wouldn't hit our building, being trapped inside while all that was going on.

For 3 years, day after day.

While you were just a little kid, having a normal life, with nothing to worry about besides math exams.

You have any clue how THAT was like?

And you have the nerve to tell me I was never there and that I'm an asshole.

Maybe, just maybe, that explains a tiny little bit why I'm soooo 'insensible'. Maybe that's why I'm such an asshole,

and if you still think that I'm the biggest asshole out there (which means nothing to me seeing who it's comming from) go check:

[ www.urbansoundresistance.com ]

"i personally thought the whole suicide thing was a little out of line considering many of the peeps on this board are mourning the loss of that gay dude who choked himself to death with a bag last week. "

At least know what you're talking about before you open your ass to talk.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 6:26pm
eldee
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And all that happened while European Union watched and didn't do shit beside put an arms and weapons embargo on our sovereign country and didn't let us even defend ourselves. That's diplomacy for you.

The only reason we survived is because of USA and islamic Mujahedin warriors fighting on our side (at least they fought on the same side for once). And George W. Bush has other preocupations right now so forget the USA involvment in this.

So I know exactly what I'm talking about.

ps (no this is no photoshop, this is real footage) :


Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 6:29pm
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I think sharon was pimping her sick sense of sarcasm
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 6:38pm
eldee
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Back to Sudan:

By KIM GAMEL, Associated Press Writer

UNITED NATIONS - The United States dropped the word "sanctions" from a draft U.N. resolution on Sudan on Thursday due to opposition on the Security Council, but it retained a threat of economic action against Khartoum if it fails to disarm Arab militias in Darfur.

The Security Council announced it was ready to vote Friday on the resolution, which has been revised four times in the past week as the United States sought to overcome objections.

Pakistan, China and Russia argued that the 15-nation Security Council argued that Sudan should be given more time to end the violence that some have called ethnic cleansing and even genocide.

In Kuwait, Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) told reporters the United States acquiesced in the change from "sanctions" to "measures" because the latter word was more acceptable to a broader number of Security Council members.

He acknowledged that there is concern in Egypt and some other countries that too much pressure on the Sudanese government could cause internal problems that would make the situation worse.

Sucks to say this but... Told ya so
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» blop a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 7:08pm
blop
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stop being a liar, eldar. everyone knows you're just a crybaby.

you grew up in ste-anne's for fuck's sake.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» eLDee a répondu le Thu 29 Jul, 2004 @ 7:19pm
eldee
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on the other note see how they're talking about jean-seb on mtldnb

"i personally thought the whole suicide thing was a little out of line considering many of the peeps on this board are mourning the loss of that gay dude who choked himself to death with a bag last week. "

one more time

"i personally thought the whole suicide thing was a little out of line considering many of the peeps on this board are mourning the loss of that gay dude who choked himself to death with a bag last week. "
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