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» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 6:48pm. Posted in hi from daytona.
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hi
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 6:48pm. Posted in goodbye.
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it's warm down here in daytona.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 6:42pm. Posted in if you're going to have sex.
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apparently chelsea kept turning her head.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 6:39pm. Posted in the mountain raver tribe.
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yeah, so when's the next official gathering of the mountain raver tribe?


cloak? can you help us?
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 6:37pm. Posted in Why do you rock....
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because she's the regional representative of the mountain raver tribe.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 6:37pm. Posted in holycrap it's the phallic symbol thread!.
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hey, that phat pants comment was mine, not nter's.


if your gonna jackie my joke, do it right.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 6:32pm. Posted in Why do you rock....
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cause she needs to lose some weight.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 6:30pm. Posted in The Picture Thread....
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megan, u need to lose some wheight.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 6:27pm. Posted in Ugly People.
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booyaa.


kafwin is like the only non-retardedest on ravewave.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 6:23pm. Posted in Turntable for sale.
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a little note: you need turntables to use final scratch.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 6:20pm. Posted in if you're going to have sex.
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yes.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 3:55pm. Posted in The Real Dino.
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yeah i am.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 3:25pm. Posted in if you're going to have sex.
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you should ask wisp to leave the room first.


just a friendly tip.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 4:44am. Posted in good article on meth/speed.
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mike has a problem.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 4:41am. Posted in IDJ Loves U.
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cloak's musk story is pure gold.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 4:32am. Posted in Things that make you sad.
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when ur friends are only capable of thinking about themselves
that's when you should be thinking about new friends.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 4:22am. Posted in Sluts in Musak.
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Ok sorry if you misunderstood. Christina must have a fast metabolism. As do all other superstar sluts.

scotty p money at his best.
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 4:17am. Posted in do girls really like 'BADASS JUNGALIST'?.
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gay
» mindset replied on Mon Feb 17, 2003 @ 4:14am. Posted in who the hell are all of you.
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ambear judges me.
» mindset replied on Sun Feb 16, 2003 @ 8:20pm. Posted in implication of metaphysics on knowledge.
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french people cant detect sarcasm on the net.


it's a fact.
» mindset replied on Sun Feb 16, 2003 @ 8:16pm. Posted in Ugly People.
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i totally agree with scotty.


but there are, of course, notable exceptions.
» mindset replied on Sun Feb 16, 2003 @ 7:42pm. Posted in Ugly People.
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It has become clear that an attractiveness stereotype pervades society: what is beautiful is good.
» mindset replied on Sun Feb 16, 2003 @ 7:41pm. Posted in Ugly People.
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there has been a flow of work showing that attractive people are perceived more positively than the unattractive on all sorts of dimensions that seem unrelated to physical appearance.
» mindset replied on Sun Feb 16, 2003 @ 7:33pm. Posted in Ugly People.
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Facial Dominance


Allan Mazur (Syracuse University, NY)

and

Ulrich Mueller (University of Marburg, Germany)



Unfortunately, looks matter. Everyone should start life on a level playing field, but they don’t. The egalitarianism embedded in modern social science abhors "built in" disadvantages, whether in social structure or in personal capital. But while explicating the consequences of structural inequalities, social science ignores equally important differences in how we look, in the effects on our fortunes of our faces and physiques. The late sociologist Louis Dotson used to remind his colleagues that "we have bodies," but few heard his message in the epoch after World War II, when the echoes of biological racism were still loud. Today the issue is ripe for attention, if approached with a proper respect for past abuses. We cringe at reviving the term "physiognomy," which carries so much baggage, but we do indeed address here the behavioral importance of people’s faces.

Effects of Facial Dominance

When raising a controversial topic, a good place to start is Square 1: Good looking people have different life experiences than unattractive people. This fact was ignored, minimized, even occasionally denied by social scientists during the postwar period. Since 1974, when Berscheid and Walster’s review in Advances in Experimental Social Psychology reinstated facial beauty as a proper topic for research, there has been a flow of work showing that attractive people are perceived more positively than the unattractive on all sorts of dimensions that seem unrelated to physical appearance. It has become clear that an attractiveness stereotype pervades society: what is beautiful is good. Beautiful and homely people apply this stereotype to themselves. We respond to beautiful people -- especially beautiful females -- in more positive ways than we respond to ordinary-looking ones, and they expect that response (Patzer 1985; Hatfield and Sprecher 1986). Thus, attractiveness may be the most invidious basis for approved discrimination in our society.

Obviously faces convey many impressions beside degree of attractiveness. Judges consensually (if not correctly) rate faces on such traits as intelligence, honesty, sympathy, or athleticism. From portraits, judges accurately distinguish Americans of Mediterranean descent from "WASPs", although they cannot generally distinguish a Jew from an Italian (Mazur 1973). Judges accurately judge a woman’s social class from her bridal portrait (Mazur 1993). Facial displays of political leaders affect emotional responses among their supporters (Sullivan and Masters 1988).

Our focus here is on facial dominance, the degree to which a person is judged from his or her facial appearance to be dominant, assertive and a leader, as opposed to someone who is subordinate, submissive, a follower. The face is one among several status signs which each individual displays, suggesting this his status is, or ought to be, high or low. Other status signs appear in our speech, posture, dress, and mannerisms. It is useful to divide facial signs into two categories: those that are fairly constant such as shape of the chin or degree of baldness, and those that are temporary or controllable such as smiling, gaze direction, or eyebrow movement. While individuals can do little about their constant attributes, they may manipulate their controllable signs to signal a dominant or deferent demeanor (Mazur 1985; Weisfeld and Linkey 1985; Kalma 1991).

Our research on human facial dominance began with controllable signals. Eyebrow position was known to play a role in the dominance displays of nonhuman primates, and it seemed plausible that the brows might signal status in humans too. American subjects, shown portraits of male and female models and asked to judge their dominance, gave significantly higher dominance ratings when models were posed with lowered brows than when they were posed with raised brows (Keating, et al. 1977). Inquiring if this were a universal feature of human status signaling, Caroline Keating, in a doctoral dissertation supervised by Marshall Segall, collected comparable data from 11 industrial and agrarian cultures in nations around the world. She found the brow effect only in Westernized cultures, concluding that it was not a universal signal. (In all cultures, nonsmiling faces were judged more dominant than smiling faces; Keating, et al. 1981.)

More important for our story was a serendipitous finding: Some stimulus faces were consistently rated dominant, independent of their expression, while other faces were consistently rated submissive. Thus, facial dominance was judged reliably across cultures. Some people always looked dominant, others always submissive (Keating, Mazur and Segall 1981).

An obvious question arose. Does facial dominance, like facial beauty, affect one’s life experiences? More specifically, does a facially dominant person have an advantage in moving up a status hierarchy? The United States Military Academy at West Point provided an ideal setting to answer this question. Graduates who make their careers in the military are continually evaluated for promotion, beginning in their junior and senior years at West Point, so their progress up the hierarchy is well measured. West Point’s yearbook, like all college yearbooks, shows portraits of the men in the graduating class, which can be rated for facial dominance.

What do dominant faces look like? Everyone knows because anyone can sort portraits on this basis, but facial dominance seems to be a gestalt concept, difficult to describe in simple terms. Faces identified as dominant are more likely to be handsome -- with striking exceptions, to be muscular, to have prominent as opposed to weak chins, and to have heavy brow ridges with deep set eyes. Submissive faces are often round or narrow, with ears "sticking out," while dominant faces are oval or rectangular with close-set ears (Mazur, et al. 1984). The descriptor "babyfaced" (Zebrowitz, et al. 1993) presumably refers to a submissive appearance.

Data were collected for West Point’s Class of 1950, a cohort which had nearly finished its military service by the time of study. For these men, facial dominance was strongly related to promotions in junior and senior years at West Point. However, facial appearance did not predict rank attainment after graduation, in early or middle career (Mazur, et al. 1984). Collins and Zebrowitz (1995) similarly found that possessing a "babyface" had no special effect on military promotion.

Our initial West Point data base was considerably strengthened in 1989 when questionnaires were sent to the men of the Class of 1950 for a follow-up study. By this time the highest ranking generals from the class had finished their service. With these changes and improvements, there was still no indication that facial dominance had aided promotions at mid-career. However, to our surprise, facial dominance -- measured from cadet portraits taken 20+ years earlier -- significantly predicted promotion to the highest ranks -- to the various levels of general officer. Having a dominant face was an advantage in reaching the top (Mazur and Mueller 1996; Mueller and Mazur 1996).

Apparently, facial appearance plays a role when the promotion board knows the candidates personally, as is true in the cadet years at West Point, and again near the end of the career line, when a small, highly select group of men compete for the highest ranks of general. At mid-career, promotions are made impersonally by boards who generally have no direct contact with the candidates; in this situation, dominant appearance is no help.

Many theorists suggest that dominant males leave more offspring than submissive males. While this is true for humans in premodern societies, the data are ambiguous for industrialized societies. Part of the problem is that class membership -- determined in modern societies by formal education and wealth -- and individual status within one’s class/occupational group are confounded when male dominance is measured by socioeconomic status. There are some studies that report a positive relation between individual professional success and family size (Haggod 1948; Freedman 1963; also see Wrong 1980 for citations of several earlier studies). Among our West Point graduates, generals had about 20% more children than other officers. Since dominant looking men, if they met average requirements for competence and expertise, found it easier than their classmates to become generals, a direct relation between facial dominance and family size was no surprise. This relation remained, though less strong, after the effect of career was controlled. Thus, there may be an effect of facial dominance per se on fitness.

High status human males have more copulatory opportunity (Perusse 1994). Portraits of boys in a study of teenage sexual behavior were rated for facial dominance, for handsomeness, and for stage of pubertal development. The handsome boys had more coital activity than their unattractive peers, an obvious finding. However, dominant looks were a better predictor than handsomeness of coital activity, and the effect of dominant looks on coital activity was significant even after controlling for handsomeness and pubertal development (Mazur, et al. 1994).

Why does facial dominance aid someone in obtaining valued prerogatives like promotion and sexual access? The standard "constructionist" explanation in modern social science is that facial dominance is a purely conventional signal, which carries no real information about intrinsic professional capabilities. It is a sign that certain corporate groups -- here the military -- use to distinguish themselves from others. Dominant looks, in this view, are an expression of adherence to the values of the group. Insofar as certain traits of a face are universally judged as dominant -- like strong jaws, broad cheek bones, or a prominent forehead, which Thornhill and his colleagues conjecture to be testosterone dependent features (Grammer and Thornhill 1994; Thornhill and Gangestad in press) -- the standard explanation would be that these facial features might have indicated actual dominance in the social and physical context of early human evolution, but do not carry such information anymore. In other words, looks are no longer truly indicative of behavior, but dominant looking men do well simply because the grantors of prerogatives are fulfilling expectations set up by a substanceless facade.

Problems with the standard constructionist explanation are suggested by game theoretical investigations into the evolutionary stability of signals that reveal one’s internal qualities, i.e., qualities not directly observable to others. The reasoning goes as follows. Facial dominance obviously matters today: it makes others give in to, or take orders from, dominant looking individuals, thus providing the latter better access to the good things in life. Why, then, don’t subordinate individuals cheat, trying to look more dominant than they are? Mathematical modeling of "evolutionarily stable strategies" shows that signals like facial dominance may honestly indicate an internal quality -- here, actual dominance -- provided only that (1) signaling carries some costs, and (2) marginal costs of signaling are higher for "low quality" individuals (Zahavi 1975, 1977; Enquist 1985; Grafen 1990). While physiological costs of signaling dominance are difficult to measure, the social costs of falsely signaling dominance have been demonstrated in birds. For example, brown chest spots are a sign of dominance in house sparrows. A subdominant sparrow with an artificially enlarged brown spot is attacked more fiercely by dominant birds than subdominant birds with appropriately smaller spots. If birds with artificially enlarged brown spots are given testosterone supplements, making them more aggressive, then after some fights they are accepted as having high status (Moller 1987; also see Rohwer 1977; Roskaft and Rohwer 1987). Among humans, baby faced individuals who perceive themselves, and are perceived by others, as warm and unaggressive, receive relatively harsh punishment for wrongdoing. Also, among our officers, for those who were below average in intellectual and social skills, dominant looks possibly were a handicap in their careers rather than an asset. Therefore, contrary to the conventional constructionist view, facial dominance may be an honest signal of capabilities that actually make a man dominant in his group. This evolutionary speculation seems as compelling as the constructionist version. In either case, dominant looking actors are more likely to get (or take) what they want, whether because of their intrinsic qualities or because people simply expect them to dominate.

Measurement

In most studies described above, facial dominance was measured from black-and-white graduation portraits found in yearbooks typical of American high schools and universities. Portraits are copied on slides. In order to control the size of the portrait, all slides are made in vertical format with the head nearly filling the frame.

Slides are projected in front of 20-40 judges (usually undergraduate classes) who view each for about 10 seconds and independently rate faces on a seven-point scale of dominance-submissiveness (1 = very submissive, 4 = neutral or undecided, 7 = very dominant). Judges are instructed that a dominant person tells other people what to do, is respected, influential, and often a leader; submissive or subordinate people are not influential or assertive and are usually directed by others. The judges are then shown several slides before the ranking task begins in order to accustom them to the range of variation. To avoid fatigue, a maximum of 24 slides is shown in a single series, though judges sometimes rate more than one series separated by a break of several minutes. Judges’ ratings are not affected by the order of slide presentation, by whether the model is facing left or right, or by sex of the judge.

The median score for each slide is taken as the value of facial dominance. Among 416 West Point cadets, these medians ranged from 2 (moderately submissive) to 7 (very dominant), with a mode of 5 (slightly dominant). On 85% of cadet slides, at least halfthe judges’ choices fell within two adjacent scale points, indicating more clustering than would be expected if choices were uniformly distributed across the seven-point scale. Slides that do not meet this cluster requirement are dropped as unreliable.

There are pitfalls in this method. While we want a dominance rating of each face, the rating actually obtained may also reflect the subject’s expression and pose, or features of the portraiture (e.g., removal of facial blemishes, lighting). For example, faces are known to be judged less dominant when they are smiling than when the same faces are unsmiling (Keating, et al. 1981). To evaluate this effect, cadet portraits were sorted into categories of no smile, broad smile with teeth showing, and slight smile (no teeth). The no smiles had a mean dominance score .3 higher (more dominant) than the slight smiles (ns, t-test). The broad smiles had a mean score .7 less than all other portraits (p
» mindset replied on Sun Feb 16, 2003 @ 7:31pm. Posted in good friends.
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indeed, it would probably be desirable that your bf/gf be your friend.
» mindset replied on Sun Feb 16, 2003 @ 7:30pm. Posted in good friends.
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bf/gf & friend are not mutually exclusive classifications.
» mindset replied on Sun Feb 16, 2003 @ 4:10pm. Posted in gen cant poo.
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jesus christ, shut up olee.
» mindset replied on Sun Feb 16, 2003 @ 4:04pm. Posted in ya gotta love the meth.
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i'm with aone on this one.


meth fucking sucks.
» mindset replied on Sun Feb 16, 2003 @ 3:58pm. Posted in implication of metaphysics on knowledge.
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someone who's really bitter ?
» mindset replied on Sat Feb 15, 2003 @ 5:12pm. Posted in Anti Valentine's day Poem.
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that is actually true.
» mindset replied on Sat Feb 15, 2003 @ 4:09pm. Posted in Saul Williams - Not in My Name -.
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this shit is hot, don't sleep.
» mindset replied on Thu Feb 13, 2003 @ 5:45pm. Posted in the new new new thread.
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[17:17:08] dirt .mick. dirt: what a fag
[17:17:24] mindset: he's at work.
[17:17:42] dirt .mick. dirt: too late
[17:17:44] mindset: dude, i want to talk to you.
[17:17:49] dirt .mick. dirt: already a new new new thread
[17:18:03] dirt .mick. dirt: call my sister is off
[17:18:26] mindset: u call me
[17:18:27] mindset: now
[17:18:38] dirt .mick. dirt: yer # is upstairs
[17:26:37] dirt .mick. dirt: get off the phone
[17:26:39] dirt .mick. dirt: nigga
[17:27:05] mindset: off
» mindset replied on Thu Feb 13, 2003 @ 5:41pm. Posted in Ravewave mentioned in the dawson plant!.
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jungle IS d&b.



not that i would know anything about it.
» mindset replied on Thu Feb 13, 2003 @ 5:15pm. Posted in it's not boozy it's boozAY !.
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dude, you're such a mysogonist!
» mindset replied on Thu Feb 13, 2003 @ 5:14pm. Posted in it's not boozy it's boozAY !.
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i told her to change her avatar.


she listened.
» mindset replied on Thu Feb 13, 2003 @ 5:13pm. Posted in Is jackie a dyke?.
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restraining order now in effect.


IT'S IN MY HANDS!
» mindset replied on Thu Feb 13, 2003 @ 5:12pm. Posted in Enjoy the Silence People!.
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you too?
» mindset replied on Thu Feb 13, 2003 @ 5:12pm. Posted in new thread.
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beaconsfield.
» mindset replied on Thu Feb 13, 2003 @ 5:11pm. Posted in new new thread.
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[17:01:13] dirt .mick. dirt: that's awesome
[17:01:21] dirt .mick. dirt: AWESOME!!!
[17:01:30] dirt .mick. dirt: now i mwll a new thread
[17:01:39] dirt .mick. dirt: called msn conversations
[17:01:51] dirt .mick. dirt: call again
[17:01:54] dirt .mick. dirt: and ask for me
[17:02:08] dirt .mick. dirt: say it's about the thing with the other thing
[17:02:13] mindset: she wont
[17:02:20] dirt .mick. dirt: yes she will
[17:02:29] mindset: she wont
[17:02:32] dirt .mick. dirt: say it top secret level 4
[17:02:33] dirt .mick. dirt: shit
[17:02:37] dirt .mick. dirt: urgent
[17:03:17] mindset: i said i was steve.
[17:03:20] mindset: i said it was urgent.
[17:03:22] mindset: just now.
[17:03:24] mindset: THE BITCH.
[17:03:38] dirt .mick. dirt: ok
[17:03:45] dirt .mick. dirt: she is realy sad today
[17:03:46] mindset: [NOT OK
[17:03:51] mindset: NOT OK MUTHAFUKA
[17:03:56] dirt .mick. dirt: probably talking about some shit
[17:04:25] dirt .mick. dirt: who is this spooky fag
[17:04:42] mindset: smells like a new thread
[17:04:51] dirt .mick. dirt: ohh yah
» mindset replied on Thu Feb 13, 2003 @ 4:54pm. Posted in new thread.
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i would be so mad right now, if it wasnt for the heroin.



mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm heroin.
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