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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Tue Apr 13, 2010 @ 6:27pm |
 Coolness: 91350 | Hi all
I've been thinking about making my own LA-2A and/or 1176 comp and maybe a Pultec EQP-1a equalizer. I want to get into these project for my own education, make some experiments and maybe to save a few $$$. It is time consumming but I don't care, it is mostly about education for me. I was wondering if anyone around have got into this. If so, what would be your advises. As a beginner in electronics, am I bitting of more than I can chew? Discuss! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Wed Apr 14, 2010 @ 9:21am |
 Coolness: 140645 | let's do those headphone mixers/preamps first mang |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Wed Apr 14, 2010 @ 10:37am |
| Coolness: 91350 | Originally Posted By RAWALI
let's do those headphone mixers/preamps first mang I know, but... but... WHAAAAHHH!!!! I WANT MY 1176 NAOW! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Wed Apr 14, 2010 @ 11:06am |
| Coolness: 140645 | course you do... and I want my own headphone mix when we play together god damnit! Two pairs of headphones just does not cut it! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed Apr 14, 2010 @ 11:10am |
 Coolness: 685550 | Originally Posted By RAWALI
course you do... and I want my own headphone mix when we play together god damnit! Two pairs of headphones just does not cut it! lol I was doing that when I was still living with my mom and wanted to mix late at night! Earbuds plugged into the mixer with one bud in the right ear, and cans plugged into the headphone out on my computer speakers that I was using as my master out... Crank it up and you've got your own personal practice rave  |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Wed Apr 14, 2010 @ 11:38am |
| Coolness: 91350 | Imagine 2 of theses babies for vocal/bass
[ www.vintagesolutions.org ] and 2 of these babies on the drum buss: [ img3.musiciansfriend.com ] In mah mind... in mah helpless mind. Wally: how about I clone that Apex thingy WITH a 2nd input AND pots on both input? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Wed Apr 14, 2010 @ 2:06pm |
| Coolness: 140645 | nah, on se fait des mixers perso... genre tout petit, quon peut sattacher a la ceinture, cinq entrés (cinq pots), une sortie (un pot) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed Apr 14, 2010 @ 5:06pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Wed Apr 14, 2010 @ 6:04pm |
| Coolness: 91350 | I know it's dirt cheap for Nomad Factory plug-ins but I'd like to make my own hardware, being aware that there is some really great plugins out there as well as there a whole other dimension to touch on hardware processors too. I do not want to start an outboard gear vs plug-ins factory debate, but thanks for the heads up on that deal! :D |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cjbsexx replied on Wed Apr 14, 2010 @ 6:38pm |
 Coolness: 48650 | C'est quoi ton expérience préalable en électronique ?
Je pense pas que c'est très difficile à monter, ils vendent des kits DIY sur Internet avec toutes les pièces. Addison à Montréal vend aussi pas mal toutes les composantes si t'es plus aventureux et tu sais encore plus ce que tu fais. Ma suggestion serait d'acheter un kit tout-inclus et de voir si tu es à l'aise, ensuite d'y aller plus en détails! Personnellement je suis en train de fabriquer mes propres speakers en ce moment, l'électronique est pas compliquée mais je réalise que je suis un mauvais menuisier :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed Apr 14, 2010 @ 7:01pm |
| Coolness: 106075 | Originally Posted By SOURULTRAFAST
I know it's dirt cheap for Nomad Factory plug-ins but I'd like to make my own hardware, being aware that there is some really great plugins out there as well as there a whole other dimension to touch on hardware processors too. I do not want to start an outboard gear vs plug-ins factory debate, but thanks for the heads up on that deal! :D I'know, and I know where you're coming from. Just thought I'd share this sweet deal. Vst's are cool cus you can put them on every channel, some hardware is cool because it is, no debate there. There's no stopping curiosity. :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 1:51am |
| Coolness: 91350 | Originally Posted By CJBSEXX
C'est quoi ton expérience préalable en électronique ? Je pense pas que c'est très difficile à monter, ils vendent des kits DIY sur Internet avec toutes les pièces. Addison à Montréal vend aussi pas mal toutes les composantes si t'es plus aventureux et tu sais encore plus ce que tu fais. Ma suggestion serait d'acheter un kit tout-inclus et de voir si tu es à l'aise, ensuite d'y aller plus en détails! Personnellement je suis en train de fabriquer mes propres speakers en ce moment, l'électronique est pas compliquée mais je réalise que je suis un mauvais menuisier :P J'ai touvé pas mal de docu sur du DIY, quelques kits déjà fait. J'ai peu d'XP en terme d'électronique pratique malheureusement. J'ai cru comprendre que les transfos et cellules optiques (ex: T4B pour le LA-2A) sont les composantes chères et rares. Ce qui m'effraye un peu c'est les contradictions entre les gens ayant montés ces kits et les instructions/procédures incluses par les fournisseurs. Je suis capable de faire mes soudures même si je suis un peu rouillé. Je vais commander le(s) PCB(s) c'est sur, mais bon; Le 1176 et LA-2A me rassurent un peu quand même, ils ne semblent pas trop trop complexes. Le 1176: [ www.gyraf.dk ] Et le LA-2A: [ www.recproaudio.com ] Databoy: Pas probs! Perso, j'aime bien les plugins URS et les Antress pour re-créer les vieux processeurs Brits :D Merci encore pour le tuyau sur les Nomads! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mutante replied on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 2:01am |
 Coolness: 76140 | man i got some other nomad factories for 15 $ and ultra analog for 15 $ too there, its an awesome store ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 3:20am |
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nah, on se fait des mixers perso... genre tout petit, quon peut sattacher a la ceinture, cinq entrés (cinq pots), une sortie (un pot) ^ this is not good, it become a passive switch and you get lots of sound deterioration if you have 3 way or more cables. and mik depending on what you want to do, esp if it require lots of processing , mainly digital, then imo good luck if your not into pic programming and cheap vitualised circuit. but old vms style filters and rack , can be easily replicated WITH knowledge and WITH tools. you cannot succeed without these two, unless its completely given to you and you just end up swaping sticker. now funny thing you mention this because last month i was trying to find plans on a vms curve bender and a 5 band eq. have a look here , while i try to pull the link i had about master class eqs. if this blows you mind right off bat then forget the whole project in sum, if your moivated (and i know you are) then know this , if its been built in 1960-1990 imagine how easy it is to make today. [ www.mat.ucsb.edu ] the biggest problem is to either have the plans of machines you want to copy/customise, so you can work on a backbone aready done, but if you really want to go full fledge and forget you have a life outside of circuits , then i suggest you start learning about electronic laws and all of them and dig the workings of many machines , since starting from scratch , is the hardest , FEASABLE FOR SHURE and i encourage you. you will have to be patient with yourself and be prepare to rework the whole thing from ground up if you start from there. my sugestion is this, find really old magasine about ham radio and go to the UHF and up designs , back them ham radio mag had plans to do so from ground up, they are the best introductionnary and have the requirements higher than studio grade equipment (well the same actually, but still id say uhf has crazy circuit build laws in respect to very hi frequency) also as it was argued with ppl that dont know what they talk about here : that hi frequency are useless from being inaudible and that VLF is not hearable by ear, thoses ppl where wrong and you will have to respect 0hz to whaterver you want to attain hz in the electronic world. if your into eq , you will have to work with parallel tables , and all calculate a lot. circuit design is not just soldering parts together , its chemistry and physics, the more you know the better , you also have to go way out of your field to find stuff that escaped your design plans . my advise , dig lots of plans and documentation , radio communication is a really good starter because of the ham groups that train childrens into this "hobby" and work yourself up to mil style satellite grid telecommunications whitepapers just to learn about real life hal, doppler,etc... this is why i talk early about copying plans from repair manuals , since at least you will have an example or have something to show your friends about, the quality of your gears , lies in your implication , how far you want to go , and sadly : ressources available to you. mind you that theses are patented stuff and there is a pattent war out there. and its been there for almost a century now (eletronic wise) and its a feirce one. good luck [wow fucking block of text] - i went back 40 pages in my fb and still cant find my link about the studio stuff, let me some time ill come back and deliver in the next days since you started a fun thread thats related to my interest FALLACY THOU : IT WONT BE CHEAPER shure save a few, but your still pay for it one way or an other either by time , tool getting etc.. Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 3:25am [ www.recproaudio.com ]
^ id improove the sheilding a lil more but this is an easy one, you need the parts , tools , and soldering, time the whole plans is there. i thought you meant about making a similar machine from scratch, i see where u got the idea from, yea doo it :D Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 3:27am esp with personnal feature - the la was made in the 50s , there isnt even multiple stage in there this is the old way of making board , and has a similar design to uhv and mil piggybacking. its not like you had to etch a circuit or photodevelop one. Update » cutterhead wrote on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 4:21am ▀█▀ █▬█ █ ▄█▀ █ ▄█▀ █ ▀█▀ >>>>> [ www.chandlerlimited.com ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 11:43am |
| Coolness: 91350 | Thanks Neko! I knew you'd pop out to give me valuable advise. cheers! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 2:41pm |
| Coolness: 140645 | yeah neko I know that splitting = loss but I wouldnt be just... splitting a wire yeh...
I'll try and salvage some old ampli de distribution... these things tend to lie around in the garbage bins of radio-can Update » rawali wrote on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 2:47pm either that or just build it...
also, id try to figure a way to have all 5 (mono) channels I need (click, bass, voice, drums, electronics) that are split to the 4 preamps of every member of the band... but if we wanna wear the preamps (belt clip size), I need this thing to be compact... 5 jack connectors for input plus one for output ends up being frigging huge... I'd need to use another connector... kinda like a tiny snake, to get all five channels to the preamp in one wire... so... hot/cold for every channel + ground... 11 pins? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 2:52pm |
| Coolness: 91350 | Originally Posted By RAWALI
yeah neko I know that splitting = loss but I wouldnt be just... splitting a wire yeh... I'll try and salvage some old ampli de distribution... these things tend to lie around in the garbage bins of radio-can what if we just do a single stereo headphone amp and use TotalMix to mix it? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 3:02pm |
| Coolness: 140645 | that means I have to tweak your monitoring to your pleasing... I have enough to take care of barnak :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 3:26pm |
| Coolness: 91350 | I can do it |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Thu Apr 15, 2010 @ 3:41pm |
| Coolness: 140645 | twé tu joues dla bass, tu te fermes les yeux pis tu te fais aller les dreadlocks... pis cest ben correct demême!
ca serait tellement plus hot avoir notre mix perso! |
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