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Swine Flu Labelled A Conspiracy
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu Dec 3, 2009 @ 10:45am
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02 December 2009
The swine flu pandemic has been named as the “most ambitious scam and corruption of our time” after pharma has been found to be in bed with the World Health Organisation.

Journalists from Denmark have reported links between the World Health Organisation and pharmaceutical companies where firms have been covertly paying top WHO scientists. In the meantime, pharma profits from flu drugs have soared.

The journalists from the newspaper Information claim the public and political hysteria to swine flu is a result of an efficient public relations campaign, spearheaded by the WHO experts that have been prejudiced by pharma’s ready cash.

The lead target in the allegations is Dutch doctor Albert Ostenhaus, who has promoted the need for vaccinations through the WHO and the media and headed a panel that advised the WHO to announce that swine flu had reached pandemic level. Reports claim Ostenhaus is paid by several vaccine manufacturers and the Netherlands government is believed to be investigating his activities.

Other WHO advisors are understood to also advise big pharma and have been allegedly concealing their pharma-funded salaries.

Meanwhile, further questions have been raised about the WHO’s independence over the H1N1 flu virus after various documents found medicines and vaccinations were mentioned more than 40 times while traditional hand washing and the use of masks to combat the disease were only mentioned twice.

The pharma industry is expected to make between seven and 10 billion euros in 2009 from the sales of swine flu related drugs, according to JP Morgan.

By Katrina Megget

[ www.pharmatimes.com ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Dec 3, 2009 @ 1:17pm
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OH NO! WHAT A SHOCK! NO ONE EXPECTED THIS AT ALL!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» InnFekchun replied on Fri Dec 4, 2009 @ 7:43am
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Pfuahahahahaha +1 Screwhead
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Dec 4, 2009 @ 10:11am
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Lets see..

4000 people in the US have died from Swine Flu this year..

Of the people who took the vaccine.. none have died.

It's been estimated that the swine flu will be around for 30 years or more.. which means, if you don't get the shot, you're likely to get swine flu sometime in your life.

So, to anyone who doesn't plan to get the shot.. Enjoy your week of sickness (and possibly death).
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Fri Dec 4, 2009 @ 10:22am
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i read in the news a month ago that there was one person who died from the vaccine

i wasn't sure if it was true or not, i don't really trust news, are you 100% sure no one died from it?

(and no, this is not me giving my opinion on the subject, i am just curious to know if what i read was a fact or a lie)
Update » Daf wrote on Fri Dec 4, 2009 @ 10:47am
ok i just found where i have read that [ www.ledevoir.com ] I don't really trust it, since the guy was 80 years old and they need to do more test to make sure the death is related to the vaccin

also while searching i felt on some sweden news [ www.theflucase.com ] not sure how good that information site is though

and also some information from santé canada:

"Nous reconnaissons qu’il existe des préoccupations face à l’immunisation. Certains risques sont associés au vaccin contre la grippe, mais le risque éventuel de subir des effets secondaires graves, comme le syndrome Guillan-Barré, est faible.

Dans le cas de la grippe saisonnière ordinaire, de cinq à dix pour cent de la population tombera malade et, en moyenne, environ 4 000 personnes mourront chaque année. Le risque de subir des effets secondaires graves découlant de la grippe est beaucoup plus élevé que celui de manifester une réaction néfaste après avoir reçu le vaccin contre la grippe. Le risque de souffrir du syndrome Guillan-Barré comme trouble attribuable à la grippe est supérieur au risque de contracter la maladie en réaction au vaccin contre la grippe.

Les vaccins comptent parmi les outils les plus sûrs de la médecine moderne. Au Canada, de graves effets secondaires attribuables au vaccin contre la grippe ne surviennent que très rarement, soit environ un cas pour 100,000 de doses distribuées. La vaste majorité des effets secondaires généré par les vaccins sont mineurs et transitoires, par exemple une douleur au bras ou une légère fièvre. Ces effets secondaires sont beaucoup moins graves qu’une infection grippale, et ils durent bien moins longtemps. Aucun effet secondaire à long terme n’a été associé aux vaccins qui sont actuellement utilisés"

[ www.phac-aspc.gc.ca ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry replied on Fri Dec 4, 2009 @ 3:08pm
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Originally Posted By NEOFORM

Lets see..

4000 people in the US have died from Swine Flu this year..

Of the people who took the vaccine.. none have died.

It's been estimated that the swine flu will be around for 30 years or more.. which means, if you don't get the shot, you're likely to get swine flu sometime in your life.

So, to anyone who doesn't plan to get the shot.. Enjoy your week of sickness (and possibly death).


If you could find the sources for those figures that would be great! I can't seem to find them anywhere.
Update » Bad_Chemistry wrote on Fri Dec 4, 2009 @ 3:13pm
Actually I did find some sources with some interesting facts all in one article...

-"In a typical winter, seasonal flu strains cause 200,000 U.S. hospitalizations and 36,000 deaths, the vast majority in people over 65. Seasonal influenza doesn't usually start circulating until November. Swine flu began a big climb in September, leading to what CDC called unprecedented high levels of illness so early in a season — and no way to know when the flu will peak. "

-"Deaths could range from a low of 2,500 to as many as 6,100, depending on how the data's analyzed. CDC settled on 3,900 as the best estimate."

Your "4000" deaths is technically an estimate...

Source: Associated Press - [ news.yahoo.com ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» InnFekchun replied on Fri Dec 4, 2009 @ 3:27pm
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Le swine flu ça tue pas pluss que la gripe normale... Pis moi, pour l'avoir eue, j'peux dire que c'est VRAIMENT PAS aussi pire que le monde le disent...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Dec 4, 2009 @ 7:49pm
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Originally Posted By DMTIO

If you could find the sources for those figures that would be great! I can't seem to find them anywhere.


Well, that's nice.. but it still doesn't change much. Getting the vaccine is safe and effective.. and it removes one possible way you can die.

This fear of the swine flu vaccine is completely irrational and unfounded.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat Dec 5, 2009 @ 1:53pm
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Dec 5, 2009 @ 3:06pm
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Do you know how much a Microgram is? Heh.. seriously?

1 Microgram = 0.00001 grams

So, if there's 25mcg of mercury "derivative", that shot is giving you 0.00025g of mercury "derivative".

Do you guys know how much shit there is in a cigarette? How many of you are freaking out over that?

[ quitsmoking.about.com ]

[ quitsmoking.about.com ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Sun Dec 6, 2009 @ 10:52am
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You do realize how long it took for peoples to figure out that cigarettes caused lung cancer?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Sun Dec 6, 2009 @ 9:35pm
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450 years?

So from whenever the Native Americans started to light up with the Europeans in the 16th century... to the 1950's?

[ www.idrc.ca ]
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Dec 7, 2009 @ 1:43am
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i'm not getting the shot so wtv
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Dec 7, 2009 @ 9:57am
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Originally Posted By DATABOY

You do realize how long it took for peoples to figure out that cigarettes caused lung cancer?


People knew smoking was bad for you as far back as the 50s. The difference being, back then they didn't have access to today's medical knowledge, and they certainly weren't testing the way they do today.

Vaccines are very safe and very effective.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Dec 7, 2009 @ 5:22pm
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Up until about 10 years ago, so-called experts (payed for by various tobacco lobby's), where proclaiming that there was no evidence linking inhalation of cigarette smoke and lung cancer.
Smart peoples like yourself probably saw through the obvious lie, but millions of smokers where glad to believe that smoking would not kill them.

I'm not saying here that vaccination has not done wonders with some very dangerous diseases like measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus... but in those cases the benefits outweighs the risk, cus there are risks to vaccination. But for the cold? a virus that 99.99 % of healthy peoples ward off with some days off and chicken soup, It seems to me like injecting mercury, squaline and a list of other pathogens that are impossible to eliminate from the vaccine (vaccines are made with egg whites) would be unwise. Keep in mind that mercury is not illuminated by your body and actually accumulates in your brain and liver causing all sorts of funky results down the line.

So yeah, vaccines are a good thing when they address deadly or debilitating diseases, but for the cold, its not worth it.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Dec 7, 2009 @ 8:14pm
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Originally Posted By DATABOY

Up until about 10 years ago, so-called experts (payed for by various tobacco lobby's), where proclaiming that there was no evidence linking inhalation of cigarette smoke and lung cancer.
Smart peoples like yourself probably saw through the obvious lie, but millions of smokers where glad to believe that smoking would not kill them.

I'm not saying here that vaccination has not done wonders with some very dangerous diseases like measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus... but in those cases the benefits outweighs the risk, cus there are risks to vaccination. But for the cold? a virus that 99.99 % of healthy peoples ward off with some days off and chicken soup, It seems to me like injecting mercury, squaline and a list of other pathogens that are impossible to eliminate from the vaccine (vaccines are made with egg whites) would be unwise. Keep in mind that mercury is not illuminated by your body and actually accumulates in your brain and liver causing all sorts of funky results down the line.

So yeah, vaccines are a good thing when they address deadly or debilitating diseases, but for the cold, its not worth it.


Uhhh, Swine FLU is not a cold. A cold is quite different from influenza. When you get swine flu, it's like being hit by a truck.. for a week. Also, there are no significant risks to this vaccine. There are no smart minds questioning it's safety. Everyone that is fearful of it is basing this fear on other people's fear, who are basing it on people who don't know what the hell they're talking about. It's all a bunch of zombie minded crap.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Dec 7, 2009 @ 9:42pm
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I have had influenza before and quite possibly swine flu. They where highly unpleasant, but both quite far from fatal.

Anyhow, you got your flu shot (maybe the first of your life), and you feel safer and in better health.

good luck with that

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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Dec 7, 2009 @ 10:35pm
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Originally Posted By DATABOY

I have had influenza before and quite possibly swine flu. They where highly unpleasant, but both quite far from fatal.

Anyhow, you got your flu shot (maybe the first of your life), and you feel safer and in better health.

good luck with that

[ www.youtube.com ]

[ www.youtube.com ]


I didn't actually, but I'm also not paranoid about it and am totally fine with getting it. The only reason I didn't get it is because I haven't been sick in more than a decade and don't feel the need for it..

I'm just pissed off by all this paranoid bullshit I read online about people saying that vaccines aren't safe. Talk to a doctor and see what they say.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Dec 7, 2009 @ 11:01pm
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Maybe you dont feel the need for it cus there is no need for it.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Mon Dec 7, 2009 @ 11:20pm
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Originally Posted By DATABOY

Maybe you dont feel the need for it cus there is no need for it.


Or maybe he dosen't feel the need cuz evolushiun wnats Neo to dies.
Oh noes!
Update » MolocH wrote on Mon Dec 7, 2009 @ 11:20pm
Just kiddin' there Neo. :)
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