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Video Explains The World'S Most Important 6-Sec Drum Loop
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» djCasTproS replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 9:26am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 10:28am |
 Coolness: 226270 | Awesome post dude.
Very insightful. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 10:33am |
 Coolness: 166540 | yeah, someone told me about this video...thnx for posting it :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 10:47am |
 Coolness: 153000 | this video talks about something really important, how could a copyrighted material, could be samnpled and used and then sold by a compagny, without anyone paying rights? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 11:12am |
 Coolness: 129715 | This video is about a breakbeat literally, the Amen break, which is significant because it is the most sampled breakbeat in electronic music.
Deadfunk, as for copyright, legally you are allowed to sample a certain amount of time from a record, not sure how long though. Copyright also expires eventually and when that happens your music becomes public domain unless someone buys the rights. That Amen Brothers track is over 30 years old. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 11:45am |
 Coolness: 76250 | ... not to derail, but
[ www.matthewherbert.com ] This guy wrote himself a guide to production. here is a quote from said manifesto: "The sampling of other people's music is strictly forbidden" although he doesnt go in depth about it on this link, i guess herbert is worried about electronic music boxing itself in, in that using the same samples sort of limits your possibilities, ultimately limiting the bounds of inspired creatioin... and this is where things get interesting. depending on your p.o.v. / approach to production you may agree or totally disagree... in some cases the debate may even come to blows! ...uhh, discuss? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 3:42pm |
| Coolness: 153000 | Originally Posted By BLISSS
legally you are allowed to sample a certain amount of time from a record, not sure how long though. Copyright also expires eventually and when that happens your music becomes public domain unless someone buys the rights. That Amen Brothers track is over 30 years old. in fact, you just CANT sample anything no matter how long, thats just a myth. sampling is illegal. and its 50 years old it takes to be in the public domain, but even if its 50 years old, it only gives you the right to re-create the track, not use the "original recording" which is owned by the music company forever! so, the company selling the amen loop are in illegality, but the owner of the records doesnt do anything about it so they are pretty free to go. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» madforbrad replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 6:08pm |
 Coolness: 44545 | theoretical law and how law really works are two very different entities. The question isn't whether you can sample legally, but rather can you get away with it. And copyright regarding actual content applies only to melody and lyrics. Drum patterns are not subject to copyright. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 6:12pm |
 Coolness: 282450 | Drum patterns aren't but basslines, vocals and melodies are subject to copyright. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» madforbrad replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 6:21pm |
| Coolness: 44545 | basslines being subject to copyright is news to me but i haven't been really paying attention to copyright law in the last few years. The company i work for also does advertisements and they do alot of remakes to save money and one of the strategies they use is just using the arrangement including the bass and they seem to avoid any sort of legal trouble.
I think perhaps the bassline is relevant if it can be considered a melody that is essential to the song. Either way, copyright law is retarded and so outdated. The process to actually file a suit whether civil or criminal is so fucking silly that i think most people are just happy with a portion of the royalties. I'm not sure how it works in Canada but it must be pretty similar to the USA |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 6:22pm |
| Coolness: 153000 | no, drum "patterns" arent, but sampling a "drum recording" is.
that mean you can get on your drum and play exactly the same thing as the amen break. its legal but you cant sample the amen brothers track. you are sampling the "recording" which is illegal, may it be drum, vocal or anything. anyways, the person who hold the copyright for that particular track didnt do anything. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» madforbrad replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 6:26pm |
| Coolness: 44545 | yes i think we were all in agreement the first time you mentioned it. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 7:20pm |
 Coolness: 73080 | haha imagine the Winstons come back and sue pretty much every d'n'b artist in existence. It's probably like all part of some major plot to make billions of dollars. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 7:21pm |
| Coolness: 282450 | well actually, it'd be james brown suing everyone in Jungle/DNB ;)
but zombies don't exist ;) so we aren't worried |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 8:21pm |
 Coolness: 685585 | Originally Posted By DMTIO
haha imagine the Winstons come back and sue pretty much every d'n'b artist in existence. It's probably like all part of some major plot to make billions of dollars. Actually, they're cool with it. There was an interview with the drummer done for Dogs on Acid a while back.. ....and fuck, all the videos of the interview with the drummer and the engineer that did it are off youtube  |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 8:52pm |
| Coolness: 73080 | Originally Posted By HOST_ONE
well actually, it'd be james brown suing everyone in Jungle/DNB ;) but zombies don't exist ;) so we aren't worried Haha, well maybe he wouldn't sue, but he could come back and eat yo brains Night of the Living Dead: James Brown vs. Pendulum |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 8:54pm |
| Coolness: 685585 | uh... James Brown wasn't the Amen break, it was Funky Drummer.. Which, while having been abused for sure in DnB, wasn't anywhere near as abused as the Amen.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry replied on Fri Apr 24, 2009 @ 8:59pm |
| Coolness: 73080 | Yeah I know, check my above post.
Mind you it's the exact same drum pattern. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sat Apr 25, 2009 @ 12:08am |
 Coolness: 131590 | keeping a copy - thanks |
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