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Riaa Jerks To Stop Suing Individuals For Online Piracy
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Fri Dec 19, 2008 @ 1:42pm |
 Coolness: 159175 | ABOUT GODDAM TIME.
As per [ Gizmodo.com ] : Whether you're a pratin' granny, single mom or a full-on haxxor, you no longer have to dread waking up to an RIAA summons. They still might rat you out to your ISP, though. Alas, it took the RIAA five years and 35,000 cases to realize that suing individual for illegal downloads was not an effective deterrent. Not only was it an abject PR failure, not even the RIAA has ever pretended that it was making a difference. That's not to say the RIAA is not entirely out of the anti-pirate game, of course. Now, they will focus on notifying your ISP of your malfeasances, should their wide net of semi-legal piracy detection agents sniff out your IP seeding 808s and Heartbreak to 12 year old girls. The RIAA will email your ISP (if it is one of the "major" providers that has an agreement), who will then either forward the email on or send their own warning. If you don't comply to that and subsequent warnings, your service may be canned. [ online.wsj.com ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Dec 19, 2008 @ 1:44pm |
 Coolness: 685645 | I <3 canada :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Dec 19, 2008 @ 2:28pm |
 Coolness: 131650 | they still do it, but instead of tracking ppl, they now track "forgery" resellers, thoses that
really double profit on the steals. meanin if your making money on it, they want it. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Dec 22, 2008 @ 12:57pm |
| Coolness: 685645 | So aparently the RIAA is expecting ISPs to have people work on the tracking of users for free, and this one guy who runs an ISP said 'fuck that'
One ISP says RIAA must pay for piracy protection |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Dec 22, 2008 @ 2:03pm |
| Coolness: 159175 | Hahahaha ! + 100 that guy. But I agree. Policing users costs, like anything else out there. If the RIAA isn't willing to pay to protect their assets, well they deserve to get pirated.
They deserve to get pirated ANYWAY so whatever. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rave_dolphin replied on Mon Dec 22, 2008 @ 8:38pm |
 Coolness: 86945 | Just one more reason to stay away from Bell ... those are everyone's bitches, and they would do just about anything to fuck up their customers it seems !
I bet they're already working on it (and part of it must be the reason why they're on lawsuit right now) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Dec 22, 2008 @ 8:55pm |
| Coolness: 685645 | Actually, here in canada we pay an extra tax (I think it's something like 48 cents per gig) on all media capable of holding pirated information (CDs, DVDs, memory cards, MP3 players, hard drives, etc..) that gets split back across the major labels, and that makes use of P2P for personal use legal here.
The whole limiting/capping by Bell is that they're claiming that their hardware is being over-burdened by the amount of BitTorrent trafic that's going on over the internet. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» madforbrad replied on Tue Dec 23, 2008 @ 1:34am |
 Coolness: 44605 | Originally Posted By V.2.0.MINUS.1
ABOUT GODDAM TIME. As per [ Gizmodo.com ] : Whether you're a pratin' granny, single mom or a full-on haxxor, you no longer have to dread waking up to an RIAA summons. They still might rat you out to your ISP, though. Alas, it took the RIAA five years and 35,000 cases to realize that suing individual for illegal downloads was not an effective deterrent. Not only was it an abject PR failure, not even the RIAA has ever pretended that it was making a difference. That's not to say the RIAA is not entirely out of the anti-pirate game, of course. Now, they will focus on notifying your ISP of your malfeasances, should their wide net of semi-legal piracy detection agents sniff out your IP seeding 808s and Heartbreak to 12 year old girls. The RIAA will email your ISP (if it is one of the "major" providers that has an agreement), who will then either forward the email on or send their own warning. If you don't comply to that and subsequent warnings, your service may be canned. [ online.wsj.com ] The whole legal process relies on the ISP tracking and coperation. If RIAA knows that you are downloading illegal material, your ISP knew before and passed the information on to the RIAA.I don't understand why they would tell your ISP. and who the fuck still uses torrents. Using password encripted files like most rapidshare archives is actually 100% legal in canada and the download also won't be limited by Bell and Videotron. I get average 6 megs a second compared to 500 k/s with torrents. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Dec 23, 2008 @ 1:43am |
| Coolness: 685645 | Originally Posted By MADFORBRAD
The whole legal process relies on the ISP tracking and coperation. If RIAA knows that you are downloading illegal material, your ISP knew before and passed the information on to the RIAA.I don't understand why they would tell your ISP. ISPs don't activley track the content of packets, at most they just know that you're sharing/downloading on P2P networks.. sniffing out the contents of the packets is a privacy violation. What the RIAA does is they've hired a private firm to get IPs of people sharing stuff, and from the IPs they contact the ISPs and ask the ISP for the identity of the people who match the IP that was sharing on said date and time.. Most of them don't have any balls, so they give in and hand over the usernames to the RIAA. Then you end up with situations where people using IP spoofing end up getting grandparents who were away on vacation at the time of the aleged copyright violation being sued for roughly $12,000 for sharing some rap albums. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» madforbrad replied on Tue Dec 23, 2008 @ 1:50am |
| Coolness: 44605 | thanks for clearing that up. I just remember a heated debate amoung ISP years ago on wether they would release information and assumed they were the ones that found out who was downloading what. Anyways , Idoubt a ISP is going to throw away 40$ a month for "moral principles". |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Dec 23, 2008 @ 3:15am |
| Coolness: 685645 | Originally Posted By MADFORBRAD
Anyways , Idoubt a ISP is going to throw away 40$ a month for "moral principles". read the link I posted ;) The whole thing is fairly recent and they're looking into "co-operating" with ISPs on it.. but unless they're willing to pay ISPs for the service of hiring extra people specifically to monitor trafic for copyrighted content violation, or pay to have software developed that can do it (which is gonna spend like 1 week working before a work-around is found) then most ISPs will hopefully be smart enough to realise that it's gonna cost them a ton of money to implement it, as well as from the loss of revenue from dissconnected customers. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Tue Dec 23, 2008 @ 11:52am |
| Coolness: 131650 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
The whole limiting/capping by Bell is that they're claiming that their hardware is being over-burdened by the amount of BitTorrent trafic that's going on over the internet. actually the caping is that instead of giving you a equal bidirectional handshake like the old dialup, they give you lets say ; a meg download. 640k upload. but with their deep packet inspection, they know what packet is associated with what port/protocol, and on top of their already shaping the speed, they reshape the packet stream : if they identify p2p download, they will make it pending, or have longer pending periodes, and will RELIMIT their packet filter so the upload will end up, lets say 64k out of the 640k... your probably aware, but i just didnt like the definition ( i adds to the "who is a theif / dont ever trust em" direction ) :D Update » cutterhead wrote on Tue Dec 23, 2008 @ 11:56am im saying that they will probably get some money management up like your saying. but im
pretty shure that they will never stop cracking down on people, as long as they have money. |
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