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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Wed Jul 16, 2008 @ 8:31pm
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Cleaned up? Not so much
One-Quarter of Montrealers see problem behaviour in their neighbourhoods

Montreal has been known as "sin city" for the better part of a century, ever since Americans started coming here to drink freely during the Prohibition era.

A new survey suggests little has changed since. Researchers at Statistics Canada asked people living in big cities how often they witnessed incidences of social and physical incivility - that is, drunkenness, drug use, prostitution, vandalism, littering and the like. Montreal ranked second in almost every category.

Twenty-four per cent of Mont-realers said social incivility in one form or another is a problem in their neighbourhoods. Fifteen per cent specifically mentioned drug use and five per cent mentioned prostitution.

Halifax and Vancouver were the only cities to report higher rates of social incivility, at 25 and 26 per cent respectively. They were also the only cities to report higher rates of drug use at 19 and 17 per cent respectively. As for prostitution, only Vancouver had a higher rate, with eight per cent of residents describing it as a problem.

People in 12 cities participated in the survey, the results of which came as no surprise to people downtown yesterday.

Guillaume Fontaine, 27, works at a club near the corner of Ste. Catherine St. and St. Laurent Blvd. He said he sees drug users hanging around all the time.

"Right in front of us across the street, in this area outside the doors there, they sit down and smoke their crack."

It's a routine they seem to have been allowed to slip into. Fontaine said he sees drug users "on an everyday basis" ever since he took a job in the area two years ago.

Others who work near the city's most notorious corner had similar complaints.

"You can see the prostitutes and drug dealers working all the time, even early in the morning," said Hélène Dumont, 49.

Montreal executive committee member Marcel Tremblay said police have behaviour like drug use, prostitution and vandalism under control and residents need not worry about the survey's results.

Tremblay said Montreal's rates of drug use, public drunkenness, vandalism or prostitution may be high for Canada, but aren't through the roof by any means.

"If you go all over North America, or all over the world, you'll have exactly the same thing."

And Tremblay was quick to point out that Montreal does quite well in preventing violent crimes.

"Have you seen the figures on security? We're (among the cities) with the least killings in Canada. We're able to go out 24 hours a day," he said.

But implementing community policing initiatives is just a part of what needs to be done to keep pushers, pimps and vandals off the streets, said Irvin Waller, director of the University of Ottawa's Institute for the Prevention of Crime.

"The solution ... is some combination of law enforcement and social services that tackle the roots of the problems," he said. "These social problems have been made a lot worse because of the large cutbacks in housing and mental hospitals in Canada in the 1990s. Montreal had a particularly bad time of that."

Most people on the street yesterday agreed with Waller, saying Montreal needs better social outreach programs rather than more police officers.

"It's obvious some of the people hanging around here are high, just look at them. But I think that's just the way it is in a big city," said Karima Lachal, 32, gesturing toward the UQÀM-Berri métro station.

Just then, a short, thin man with greasy, matted hair and a few days' stubble staggered over to ask if she had any change. Lachal politely brushed him off.

"There's a living example of what I'm talking about," she said. "Anyway, I think the police are doing their job, it's just that these people need more help on a social level."

[ www.canada.com ]
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed Jul 16, 2008 @ 8:40pm
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Fuck yeah! MONTREAL RULES!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed Jul 16, 2008 @ 11:18pm
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honestly it's not bad in montreal at all, i will take anti social behavior like this any day over violent crime, you can walk the streets of montreal any time of day in relative safety try doing that in a city like detroit, you'll get robbed, rapped or murdered.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 1:32am
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i want the tshirt

I GOT RAPPED IN DETROIT
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 2:02am
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"I GOT RAPPED IN DETROIT"

DAMN IT! BEAT ME TO IT.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 8:02am
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you mean a rapper jumped out and forcefully spat lyrics at you, depriving you of your personal security? You'd have to go to the hospital for a rap kit, where they run verses by you to try and identify the culprit.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GODISDEAD_ replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 2:21pm
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well, i wouldnt say its not bad at all....
Im scared sometimes walking at night in hochelaga man...
cars stopping trying to pick you up, people howling at you, old men fighting in front of you and shit..jsais pas.
i dont think its THAT safe..
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 2:35pm
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I think the main difference is you're still unharmed from that.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 2:51pm
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the rap kit ftw
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GODISDEAD_ replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 3:07pm
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unharmed maybe...
but stabbings every 2 weeks on my appartment steps doesnt signify safety I dont think..
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 3:15pm
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Meh, it depends really. I feel safe where ever I am, at all times of the day. My uncle used to warn me about hanging around some parts of the city, because there were gangs n shit, but I always use to tell him "Yeah, but the reality is the gangs should be worried about me." And that's the way I see it. Not that the gangs should actually be "worried" about me, because that would be ridiculous, but that there's nothing to be afraid of.

Yeah, there's trouble that you can run in to, and believe me, I've run into A LOT of shit, but that's only because I was looking for it, so to speak. Otherwise, I'm safe. I've been Parc Emilie-Gamelin at sunrise, around punks and dealers, and the only time I've gotten in shit was when I was involved in something that was risky.

Otherwise Montreal ain't shit.
Go live in Johannesburg.

I SURVIVED THE DAWSON SHOOTING!
2006
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 3:52pm
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go live in marseille *shudder*
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GODISDEAD_ replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 4:02pm
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yea...
being a chick doesnt imply the same things though...
we gotta watch out for alot more shit that you guys do..
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 4:24pm
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But... But, my boyish charm gets all those drunken BS cougers riled up. I know what it's like to be objectified.
*cries*
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 4:26pm
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i dont, im too ugly =[
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 4:38pm
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Then you could NEVER possibly understand how hard it is for young tender man meat, such as myself, on these mean streets of Montreal.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu Jul 17, 2008 @ 11:22pm
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in terms of murders i think edmonton has more than montreal, and it's 1/4 the size...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Fri Jul 18, 2008 @ 4:21pm
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Edmonton is fucked up.
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Montreal Ftw!
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