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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Tue Oct 24, 2006 @ 1:33pm
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I am going to ask here, but I would also like some advice of where else to ask so that I get the best possible answer.
My parents have made our entire basement available to me, it is a big long room with cement floors/walls/ceilings that I could most definitely fit everything I need into. There are two issues:

Firstly, as I am soon to buy monitors, does cement have any serious echo/reverb effect on psytrance/loud music? If so, would some simple wall panels fix that? Keep in mind that even my ceiling is cement.

Secondly, basements are humid, spring and fall bring an affluence of water that would be draining under and around the basement I would set up in. Are computers/sound cards/speakers/synths sensitive enough to humidity that I should think twice about a humid basement? Would a dehumidifier be necessary/enough to fix that if it is an issue?
Thanks a lot, i really appreciate any feedback here. btw if this all work, i am going to have on kick ass studio with lots of space!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Tue Oct 24, 2006 @ 1:48pm
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simple blankets and carpets may do the trick.
and yes humidity can be an issue if you think it can be then it just may be
i'd imagine your electronic components would not take well to being covered in a constant film of humidity so a dehumidifier may be in order

but i think your point is you scored a space
congrats
the universe works that way sometimes

or something
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Tue Oct 24, 2006 @ 2:05pm
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sounds rad, but i would renovate the whole fucker before setting up...

cement is the worst for reverb (you can acctually rupture your eardrums in a cement rooms) and humidity and water are bad news... humidfiers and sump pumps might be benificial depending on how much water yer dealin' with...

maybe put up some walls... and use the renovations as an oppurtunity to properly set up your control room and get your aucustics just right.

i'd recomend checking out how some other recording studios are set up before jumping in blindly...

and also consider what you wanna be recording in there...

ie. vocals, instruments... if you plan on recording this kinda stuff your gunna want to have a few rooms and maybe a mic locker.

my 2 cents...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Tue Oct 24, 2006 @ 2:58pm
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I don't have a mic yet but that is definitely a possibility for the future. Again with my first question, are there any sites you guys know of that are specific to sound/studio design where I could post this?

Water: There would be no condensation or liquid water anywhere except on the floor or in the drain, but there would be humidity twice a year.
The iMac says it can take 5% to 95% non condensing humidity, which is promising... i'm looking for similar info on my other gear (update:no info avail. really :\ ). Also I am a total newb when it comes to acoustics, I wouldn't even know where to start. What kind of materials insulate sound best? Could I really just hang some blankets up to protect my eardrums?
Keep in mind that although I may party in that room, I would never be blasting music so loud that reverb would be a serious production issue (unless I underestimate reverb/cement). I would even potentially be using headphones often enough.

As far as renovation goes, I can't possibly afford to build a full-on recording studio, but what kind of renovations are you talking about? just building an enclosed space? or actually sectioning off the area with giprock?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry replied on Tue Oct 24, 2006 @ 7:46pm
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I say if you set up some dry-wall you could make the place work well accoustically. One trick I heard was to use 2 different thinknesses of dry-wall.

The cement in the basement would be horrible acoustically though, it would make the buying of good studio moniters pointless. If you want a quick fix though, hanging blankets everywhere does help alot. When I was doing those Rap recordings I basically put blankets everywhere and that worked pretty well.

But for now I think you could get away with some old blankets hung everywhere, your not really recording yet so your accoustics don't need to be amazing. The best materials for absorbing sounds are fabric like materials. Think the less dense and thicker the better. Cars have ridiculously good acoustics actually because of the material everywhere.

Nice on the space though.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» volo replied on Wed Oct 25, 2006 @ 12:16am
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Hey Zed, msg me and we could arrange to get some possibilties down on paper. I know something of acoustics.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Thu Oct 26, 2006 @ 10:08am
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concrete on it's own is not so great, but concrete covered in some kind of carpet/material is ideal (concrete keeps bass sounds from passing through the walls). Also some kind of diffuser would be helpful (you get more echo in more empty rooms). The humidity I'd have to really know how bad it is in the actual room. I'd suggest checking out a dehumidifier though.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Thu Oct 26, 2006 @ 10:18am
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yeah and maybe insurance too...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Oct 26, 2006 @ 11:43am
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I think everything falls down under the home insurance. so long as I have it evaluated :\
I got my computer yesterday and it's smaller footprint (muchless a screen twice as big) let me set everything I have so far up without the space issue I was having. although my basement would provide me with an apartment like space with my own door, living room, bedroom and studio.
Scotty: the humidity is only present in the fall and spring when snow melt and rain beats the ground. it's a basement so there are drains everywhere to keep liquid water from dispersing the floor itself. There would be no condensation per se, just high levels of humidity twice a year. If I move in, I would be getting a dehumidifier as well as a heater, because it's a basement.
Would those beige foam (normaly used for padding on beds) pad things do a good job of containing the sound?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Oct 26, 2006 @ 11:46am
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You might really want to watch the humidity, as your gear generates heat, and heat will react with the humidity a lot worse than you might think.. You wouldn't want too humid of an area around, say, a 50 degree celcius computer heatsink, as that'll just make condensation a much bigger issue..

From what I've heard, though, there are sprays that you can spray onto concrete that block the pores, so that would do a nice job right there of stopping a lot of your humidity issues.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Oct 26, 2006 @ 2:19pm
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really? that's kind of cool :) but the water issue is more from serious cracks in the corners (i think).

It's a weird basement, considering first of all that there are trenches all along the walls to direct any water towards a drain in the center of the room. I believe the drain has a constant level of water in it as well, strangely enough.

now about those beige foam bed pads...
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