Open Letter To Montreal Raving Community
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Invisibletank replied on Sun Jan 15, 2006 @ 10:09pm |
 Coolness: 33845 | Why you gotta be like that?
Call me nostalgic, but your parties ain't all that. To be fair, I haven't been to a party that cost more than 20$ on the door, so maybe I gotta be rich to have a good time, but if it's not half assed decorations, it's too small venues. The party that broke the camels back was last night. What about having a breaks party in a room only marginally bigger than my apartment sounded like a good idea? Isn't a rave about dancing? I surely didn't see a whole lot of that in this room with rounded shoulders. You've got great beats and talented musicians all over the place in this city, but your scene needs work, big time. The parties I cut my teeth on were thrown in a city probably a third the size of this, and are still far and away more fun. I'm not saying it's been all bad, the jewel in the rough for me has been SAT. They throw a bitchen dance party. So, Montreal, defend yourself! Is what I've seen so far an indication of what this scene has to offer? If so, it really seems like it's on some kind of "out swing." I wasn't here a year ago, maybe ya'll had a hay-day and now it's done...What say you? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente replied on Sun Jan 15, 2006 @ 11:33pm |
 Coolness: 299325 | what party? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Sun Jan 15, 2006 @ 11:41pm |
| Coolness: 71435 | you are nostalgic |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 12:39am |
 Coolness: 159120 | Well, if the local authorities weren't such hard asses about getting venues and if promoters here actually helped each other instead of backstabbing one another, it would work alright. Unfortunately, it's been like that for a while.
It's not fun but ravers have given up on their scene a while ago. When the police started cracking down hardcore on raves, most ravers were forced to stop raving every week and 90% of them started realizing how much fucking drugs they were doing before and very quickly trashed the concept of raving for more nights out...like going to a bar and getting drunk instead, I guess. But hey, the rave scene became a product at one point and like everything in this consumerism world, once a product stops working or is broken, no consideration for it is applied, you just thrash it and go about your business elsewhere. So that's the current status in a nutshell. Unfortunately, it's the same in every major north american city, to various degrees. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 4:31am |
 Coolness: 166575 | we have to do something about this, though i'm not sure on how to proceed. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 6:43am |
 Coolness: 75270 | There was a hay-day.. like... 4-5 years ago. And some parties are more "community" driven then others. But hey, the parties still keep happening, and that means the promoters are still making money. If you got your ticks early, Soma was nice and cheap, and TwistedWave is only 15$ and The Digital Playhouse is like.. 10-15 or something.. and they both promise to be pretty good events. Meh... get a gang of friends together, head out and dance, drugs or no drugs, pretty lights or a dark room.. who cares? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 9:38am |
| Coolness: 178645 | Hmm, looks like lots of people want to have fun again.
Time to do something. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» blop replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 10:56am |
 Coolness: 200530 | Fuck you. Go back to Halifax, hippy. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 12:15pm |
 Coolness: 103255 | Easy to bitch about things any lame ass fuck can do that. Try doing something about it.
Underground parties are underground for a reason. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 1:17pm |
 Coolness: 83875 | i dunno...
i think there are definately quality partys a gwan.... not necicarily "rave partys" but definately quality shit in the works... big fat legal raves are getting alot more scarce these days and if you wanna party all night you either gotta go to a legal afterhours or an illigal "loft party" that can rage from awsome to a waste of time. if you expect a certain quality level... find out what production companys meet your expectations and go reprasent. ie. you mentioned yer into breaks and like the sat... so why don't you find out who throws breaks partys at the sat and see what else they are up to. if you do yer research you will probably find a buncha partys involing the idj crew and or the froglandbreakers/ planet break crew comming up in the next few months... and if there is a party you don't like just take a mental note of who put it together and avoid them like the plague. and as far as raving... the 90's called... and they want there termanology back. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BA_Baracus replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 2:03pm |
 Coolness: 121035 | peeps prefer small intimate friendly parties rather than large huge cold venues
check out SAt feb4th |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 4:25pm |
 Coolness: 149005 | the SAT is a venue, they don't throw the "bitchen" parties that you refer to, it's promoters that throw them. not sure which one's you've been to, I Love Neon maybe? anyways, SAT is not a "rave" it's a legal venue, closes at 3. anyways.
if you're talking about dialect's party (i assume? since it WAS in a small place) well come on dude, it was four fucking dollars, a god-damned BIRTHDAY party, with NO flyers (that I saw at least).. if anything the overcrowding of the venue points to people's appreciation for EXACTLY that type of shindig. so to all that keep complaining, do something about it, throw a fucking party, call a venue, rent a spot, it's SO much easier than you'd ever imagine. and to thegoods... are you scott c or andy williams? if so, you guys do dope shit, and good looking out with an eye on the so-called "rave" community, or more electronica-ish music than you're used to, or whatever, seriously. it's good to see you're investigating, listening and opining on the subject. :) onelove |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BA_Baracus replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 4:42pm |
| Coolness: 121035 | yah right scott C opening up to new music, its all about self promotion there yo! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ravedave replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 5:44pm |
 Coolness: 131690 | I think those who still throw parties arent doing it for the $$$ , i tought i'll do TwistedWave for 10$ at the door, but after looking at the prices of renting/buying everything, its impossible to win money, even with 15$/ticks on pre-sale im only hoping to get to 0, no profit for sure, so yeah when you see the half ass decoration and the small venues its because not all of us are rich and we spend what we have on the DJs instead of some flashy lights and lasers; small venues = small party = friendly crowd! And those who come to these parties know what to expect, they're there to support the promoter, hear their favorite djs and to be with their friends, and they end up having a good time even if theres isnt much room to dance, no giant screens with extreme visduals all nite, no lasers of all colors and whatnot!
I might not know much about promoting, but i can tell you that it involves lots of $, lots of time and lots of work! But hey if you think raves around here aren't cool enough and too expensive, try and organise your own event and then you'll understand why its hard... I hope that it made sense and someone will actually read what i wrote hehe Dave |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Invisibletank replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 6:29pm |
| Coolness: 33845 | Okay, sure. Having good djs is priority number one, but a name isn't everything. I've seen big buck djs flown in from all these exotic places fuck up HARD, and the local kid who played before him had better beats anyway. A dj who's worth his salt plays fun things to bop around to...period.
It sounds like the city is having venue problems, though. Them's big problems. Does anybody know what these are? Is it that all night dance parties are legally limited to A, B, or C venue and anything outside of that is illegal? Have private dance halls been explored? I know that dance halls sometimes limit the time that an event can take up, but as far as I know it is usually under the discression of the owner, and falls outside police jurisdiction unless there is a noise complaint or some such thing from people in the area. Judging by the turnout to any given event, though, I'd say this scene is pretty big and perhaps private dance halls are a little hesitant to rent to rave promoters. Does anyone know anything about this? And lasers are boss! But not necessary. Neither are ellaborate projection systems. All you really need is some volunteers and some ingeniuity. I once attended a party where packing peanuts were hung by thread all over the ceiling. Thousands of them, lit by blacklight and these 650watt green lights and it was amazing, even sober. It's remarkable what little things like that can do for a space, they go a long way to giving an event the feel of an event, rather than just some ol' dance party. I don't know nothin bout nothin when it comes to hiring djs or renting a venue, but I've helped put together some pretty damn good parties in my day. If there are things people need/want done for a party, I've mostly got nothing but time these days. It's encouraging to hear that others are also disappointed with recent parties. I'm not bitching for bitching's sake, I do want to help. The monacure for this website is "this is your scene, respect it and it will grow" well to me respect means also being able to say "I don't like where this is headed. I'll help turn it around." |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 7:20pm |
| Coolness: 159120 | No can do on private dance halls. I'm sure this avenue has been explored many times before. Nowadays, it's privately owned lofts and apartments. But usually those are somewhat close to or square into a residential neighborhood.
And from what I can tell, Montreal residents are just about the least tolerant folks on the eastern seaboard in terms of late night noise. As for decorating venues, either promoters are ill organised OR the venue owners usually give the green light an HOUR before the party. Meaning your intricate decorations will have to go up in a flash or not at all. You have to remember that a big city like Montreal is plagued with one powerful dissuasive element : #&?% media. Like any big-ass city, newspapers and newscasts will use any possible avenue to milk sales or increase the number of viewers. Meaning, if you have to create all sorts of untrue, unrealistic bullshit about the party scene, so be it if you see a dollar sign somewhere along the line. This in turn creates a paranoid population who will raise an eyebrow at the mere mention of " nightly party " even though NO violence, sex, alcool or whatever is present at the said party. Our ever growing aging population is making sure to pass the word around that ravers and partygoers in general are a bunch of orgiastic heroin addicts who rob & kill people in back alleys to score hits and go out raving all fucking week long to repetitive insanity-inducing hypnotic electronic music from Hell. Renting a venue then becomes a question of convincing an owner that noooooooo, it's not like that. Good luck. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Jan 16, 2006 @ 9:57pm |
 Coolness: 201225 | if you send a bunch of money my way I'll throw a bitching party |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Tue Jan 17, 2006 @ 3:13am |
| Coolness: 159120 | Sure...but where ? After that money is spent on getting a plane ticket to the Domican Republic and the rest on cheap alcohol and " street workers ", will you have enough to throw an ACTUAL party in this city ? :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Tue Jan 17, 2006 @ 3:43am |
 Coolness: 102765 | I'm not the oldest here but i'm from the 1st generation of raver kids. I've seen last minute ghetto parties to thousands dollars plan 5 months in advance parties.
Montreal has it's up and down in the "rave community". It's going through a existential phase. In Montreal old school days, 12 years ago, we were partying at true underground venues. But in England they were already doing massive Techno Festivals. So whatever town you're coming from, your dance scene is only trying to catch up. The true problem of Montreal dance rave community is actually its population size. We are too big to have one unity, and we are too small to support the different genres of electronic dance music. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Tue Jan 17, 2006 @ 3:53am |
| Coolness: 159120 | Amen Soul trey. Well put. |
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