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Friend Losing His Or Her Mind...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Intoccabile replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 12:53am
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Litterally !

Might be because of drug abuse, too much weed / K / E, organic predispositions, pathogenous environment, I don't know... Within, something " snaps ". And you don't, you can't recognize that person ! Happened to me recently. Went to some Psychiatry ward to say hi to a friend. I knew he had some " problems " but I never expected THAT. What I saw was really depressing... Didn't even recognize me at first, kept staring at me with strange eyes muttering unintelligible words...

Any similar experiences ?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 1:07am
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yeah, the last 2 years before my grandmother died she was completely gone. She thought her husband was still alive, didn't recognise my dad, and kept thinking he was someone coming to tell her her husband was coming to pick her up (he's been dead since the mid 80s)

She completely didn't recognise me, or even remember that I existed, who I was, etc. Was really depressing, she pretty much raised me from the time I was 1 to 6 when I went into school.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» somekid replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 2:29am
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My friend went crazy it sucked and scared all of his friends it was really sad. Now he's on anti sycotics and, you know what, they really work well. Sure he had a hard time adjusting and went off them a few time but he's back on now and doing great!

PS he was a totaly different guy when he was nut but I think it was just all the voices ;)
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 3:12am
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A former roommate of mine, traveler from outside Canada, went somewhat ballistic while living in my old house. Me and other roommates were witness to his progressive regression... first he was talking about some sort of revelations, seing colors, walls turning green... We thought he was either kidding around, or trying to fuck with us, or maybe at least having LDS flashbacks, but never expected it to go further. Next up, he imagined himself as a great teacher, tried to make some sort of deep points (while actually partially making sense and partially rambling on with a crazed glow in his eyes), tried to take people aside and whisper them some sort of truths. His behaviour grew further erratic, he started leaving notes around with scribbles which indicated a mess in his head but we still were not sure if he was just pulling a fast one or just going thru a weird phase in life. In the end, one other ex roommate of mine and the dude in question were driving and from what I hear he went completely crazy with one of his talks, almost made no sense at all, and started driving on the wrong side of the street (which wasnt small) just to make some sort of a point, which got him stopped by the cops and after some time put into a mental ward. I couldnt go see him right away, but people who did say he was totally out of it and not himself. I dont know what they gave him in the ward, but I saw him about a week later. He just seemed more down, more slouching, and reluctant to talk about the experience. It's almost as if he understood that he went temporarily crazy, but looking into his eyes I knew that down there he still believed at least some of all those convictions he was trying to proclaim (with a varying degree of success and/or coherence). In any case, his dad came to Canada to take him back to his country of origin, and I've heard from him a couple of times since. Apparently, he's been doing good and is stable in life. He has not talked about what happened.

One can only wonder what could be going through this guy's mind, and what still does...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mali replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 8:24am
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yeah one of my friends is paranoid schizophrenic
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Smurf replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 9:36am
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ze'ev, i had the exact same thing happen to me. ( I mean to someone from outside canada who came and lived with me and i witnessed his downfall). Its "une psychose", often god is involved (or a god), sometimes the person thinks he is, sometimes he think you are.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 1:37pm
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The mind is one fucked up tool.
It can make you or break you.

There's nothing worse that I can imagine, than losing my mind... take it from me, Paranoia, and delusions kill.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 4:08pm
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Smurf, yeah I think he may have been progressively getting a god complex
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 5:18pm
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ya, those are classic signs of paranoid schizophrenia, schizophrenia.. Psychotic episodes or schizoid episodes are the first indicators of shizophrenia. Most likely, everyone on this board knows somebody that will be schizophrenic one day, or already is. I wish I had some advice on how to deal with it or what to do , but I don't. Except for this: stay away from all and every drug and you have less chance of becoming schizophrenic, or of worsening psychosis. However, this is no protection against schizophrenia, it can strike anywhere, anytime. Although something like 75% of cases occur in males between the ages of 17-25.. or something..

so ya, if someone close to you starts saying they're gonna jump off a building to prove that they can't die, or starts saying that they're gonna go into work one day with a submachine gun and mow people down so that they can expose the corporation for the evil liars they are, be careful. Talk to the person, try to get out if they are being honest, or joking. If they appear to be honest, and really appear to BELIVE what they are saying, then they are suffering from a psychotic episode, and you should remove them from stress, get them to see a psychiatrist, and most definitely avoid allowing them to do any drugs, including weed, or alcohol.

beyond that, ya, i don't know what else to say. Be careful with yourselves, be careful with drugs, be careful with what you think, believe, and convince yourself. does that make any sense?? i think not..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 6:25pm
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steven q lalla: drug advisor.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 7:14pm
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Yeah a family friend was teated as paranoid schizophrenic, he was seeing stuff and thought it was raining indoors. BTW the night before he went out and got really drunk, and that may have been the catalyst for his problems...

Anyway they put him on anti-psychotics and he was doing alright for about 10 years, although he still had some residual symptoms..

Then he had a total relapse, and it was discovered that he was not actually schizophrenic at all, but bipolar with psychotic elements... I don't know what kind of medication they gave to him but he is very quiet now and doesn't talk much and it makes me feel bad when I see him because I knew this person since I was a kid.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» A_Princess replied on Wed Apr 6, 2005 @ 11:21pm
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my cousin is a sociopath. his mother (my aunt) is schizophrenic. We went to visit her in Switzerland and she tried to convince us that aliens had been going through her jewlery box. Frikkin wierd.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Thu Apr 7, 2005 @ 12:16am
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The Prevalance Rate for schizophrenia is approximately 1.1% of the population over the age of 18 (source: NIMH) or, in other words, at any one time as many as 51 million people worldwide suffer from schizophrenia;
This means only the people who were diagnosed

What Percentage of Individuals with sever mental illnesses are untreated, and why?

Recent American studies report that approximately half of all individuals with severe mental illnesses have received no treatment for their illnesses in the previous 12 months. These findings are consistent with other studies of medication compliance for individuals with schizophrenia and manic-depressive illness (bipolar disorder). The majority (55 percent) of those not receiving treatment have no awareness of their illness (anosognosia) and thus do not seek treatment. Stigma and dissatisfaction with services are relatively unimportant reasons why individuals with severe mental illnesses do not seek treatment.

The 45 percent who acknowledged that they needed treatment (and thus had awareness of their illness) but still were not receiving treatment cited many reasons for this. These included (respondent could check several reasons):

32% "wanted to solve problem on own"
27% "thought the problem would get better by itself"
20% "too expensive"
18% "unsure about where to go for help"
17% "help probably would not do any good"
16% "health insurance would not cover treatment"

you probably know more then one person
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Thu Apr 7, 2005 @ 3:29am
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I think the whole concept of "mental illness" can be deceptive. Of course, there are many people who really can't function mentally, and who require medication or other forms of treatment. On the other hand, I don't necessarily think that any person whose thought processes don't conform with the norm need to be labelled mentally ill and medicated. Because if everyone thought more or less alike, where would humanity gets its revolutionary ideas from? If you look back at the history of great artists, thinkers, or religious leaders, many of them had mental difficulties of some sort, or perhaps were even considered insane at one time or another.

As for the statistics cited above, while I don't dispute 1.1% of the population may be schizophrenic under a broad diagnostic criteria, I doubt 51 million people worldwide are full blown nutcases. For every person that is totally insane, there are many others who can function succesfully despite being of a different psychological makeup than the majority. There are countless shades of grey between the black and white of sanity versus insanity.

I wonder what would happen if today you met a man who claimed he was the son of god, and that he could walk on water and cure blindess. Well, there was someone like that two thousand years ago, and yet the teachings of that obviously insane person continue to inspire millions of people today. Or what about that prince who lived 500 years before, that rode out into the jungle on his own one night and spent years sitting alone in the wild eating only a grain of rice per day. The history of greatness is inextricably interwined with that of insanity.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Thu Apr 7, 2005 @ 4:38am
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Originally posted by POISONED CANDY...

I think the whole concept of "mental illness" can be deceptive. Of course, there are many people who really can't function mentally, and who require medication or other forms of treatment. On the other hand, I don't necessarily think that any person whose thought processes don't conform with the norm need to be labelled mentally ill and medicated. Because if everyone thought more or less alike, where would humanity gets its revolutionary ideas from? If you look back at the history of great artists, thinkers, or religious leaders, many of them had mental difficulties of some sort, or perhaps were even considered insane at one time or another.

As for the statistics cited above, while I don't dispute 1.1% of the population may be schizophrenic under a broad diagnostic criteria, I doubt 51 million people worldwide are full blown nutcases. For every person that is totally insane, there are many others who can function succesfully despite being of a different psychological makeup than the majority. There are countless shades of grey between the black and white of sanity versus insanity.

I wonder what would happen if today you met a man who claimed he was the son of god, and that he could walk on water and cure blindess. Well, there was someone like that two thousand years ago, and yet the teachings of that obviously insane person continue to inspire millions of people today. Or what about that prince who lived 500 years before, that rode out into the jungle on his own one night and spent years sitting alone in the wild eating only a grain of rice per day. The history of greatness is inextricably interwined with that of insanity.


I very much agree with all three paragraphs. In fact, Albert Einsteins son is shizophrenic and though he was never diagnosed I wouldn`t be the least bit surprised if Albert Einstein was too.

"After a person has been diagnosed with schizophrenia in a family, the chance for a sibling to also be diagnosed with schizophrenia is 7 to 9 percent. If a parent has schizophrenia, the chance for a child to have the disorder is 10 to 15 percent.-Risks increase with multiple affected family members."-
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Thu Apr 7, 2005 @ 4:44am
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Oh yeah and Albert Einstein had A.D.D too
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Czarkastik replied on Thu Apr 7, 2005 @ 5:49am
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it's really easy, and tempting, to say that schizophrenia or mental illness is very close to genius, dan.. i mean, that's a very common statement. i think there's also some truth to it. but anyone who has been close with a diagnosed schizophrenic will find it very hard to umm... mesh these two visions of the problem.

You can easily sit back and let nature take its course, remove any medication for example, and watch as crazy shit goes down. Some of this crazy shit will be really enlightening, hell, dude might even invent some new concept or thing. But there's also a very good chance that the individual at hand will try to kill or hurt themselves or others around them or, very likely, that, if left to their own devices, they will end up living an extremely introverted life (picture someone sitting unwashed and silent in the corner of an equally unwashed, silent house, for days on end.. ).. anyways dan you're expressing an idealistic perspective on the whoel thing, one that I myself used to have, and still like to cling to.. it's an easy argument but when you erncounter someone with serious mental illness, it doesn't wash anymore.. Not that I have any answer or explanation or anything, nor am I trying to disprove the fact that many geniuses/inventors through history may have had mental illness; it's just that its an easy thing to say when you dont have the issue in your face and in your life.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu Apr 7, 2005 @ 9:55am
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Originally posted by PUNANNY BIZNISS...

Litterally !

Might be because of drug abuse, too much weed / K / E, organic predispositions, pathogenous environment, I don't know... Within, something " snaps ". And you don't, you can't recognize that person ! Happened to me recently. Went to some Psychiatry ward to say hi to a friend. I knew he had some " problems " but I never expected THAT. What I saw was really depressing... Didn't even recognize me at first, kept staring at me with strange eyes muttering unintelligible words...

Any similar experiences ?


i sometimes feel like this myself

i think the world is too fucked sometimes to stay sane

i guess all you can do is surround yourself with people you love and hope for the best
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Thu Apr 7, 2005 @ 11:59am
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Someone very close to me has bi-polar disorder and has been on lithium for more then ten years. Anyways, I have noticed that when she stops taking her medication and becomes more apparently bi-polar, the people in her midst rarely treat her with much respect. But i can see it is generally because they don't know how to handle her, nor do they understnad what her problem is.

I wish society would come to understnad more about mental illness so we can better help them in their "craziness".
Plus, I often wonder as someone mentioned as well about how it must be for her, when she resumes taking her medication and is confronted or remmebers to a certain degree how she was behaving.
I am appauled that she is not in therapy that thereapy is not more of an option to be offered. I assume and realize that much of her "crazy" behaviour is repressed into her subconscious. BUt it is not gone and that is precisely the point.

I remember being over at my friend's place when I was young, watching t.v. and my friend's mom the one who has bi-polar shut the t.v off and told us there was cocaine going through the cable.

It's interesting to consider though because though there is not literally any cocaine going through the cable, symbolically, there may be.

I think mental illness is very sad and my heart goes out to each and everyone of you who have witnessed it.
I think it is a symptom of a larger problem that we have yet to understnad.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flatlinedive replied on Thu Apr 7, 2005 @ 12:30pm
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Originally posted by BASDINI...

i guess all you can do is surround yourself with people you love and hope for the best


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