How Is Mdma Cut Properly? Right Cut?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 2:53am |
 Coolness: 229705 | I've know that mdma is often cut with many things.. And a friend has told me that it's been available in rock/crystal? form thats shaded like brown sugar I'm guessing a lighter shade though.
He also says he was told that it's not reccomended to ingest it in such a form and that it ought to be cut.. Since I've googles a few variations on "cut mdma" and come up with only descriptions of bad cuts, I wonder what the heck a "good" cut is. What do you cut mdma with, without using bad things? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 2:55am |
| Coolness: 229705 | Also I'd like to know more about 5-htp and any other relevant related chemicals.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 2:58am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 3:05am |
| Coolness: 229705 | oops wrong thread... lol this forum system zork. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 3:06am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 3:35am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 3:52am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 4:18am |
| Coolness: 229705 | aha, heres what i was looking for in regards to 5-htp etc:
XV. Preloading/Postloading
Preloading and postloading involves consuming certain substances in order to prepare your body for the effects of MDMA. Here are some threads containing pre/postloading recipes from other Bluelighters: [ www.bluelight.nu ] [ www.bluelight.nu ] [ www.bluelight.nu ] Pre/postloading is usually done during the 24-72 hour period on each side of the roll; and includes one or more of the following: 5HTP – Although not proven to be effective, 5HTP is a precursor to serotonin. 5HTP is available OTC at pharmacies and health stores. Pre/postloading doses usually vary from 100-500mg. Consumption of 5HTP is both protective and experience-enhancing. For more information, see Bluelight’s 5-HTP FAQ. Magnesium – Magnesium is a commercially available and natural muscle relaxant. This idea behind using muscle relaxants is to relieve the jaw clenching that can often accompany MDMA use. Preloading doses usually vary from 300-500mg. Vitamin C – Studies have indicated that Vitamin C can be effective in combating neurotoxicity. Doses usually start at 500mg and go up from there, with 1000-2000mg being a common pre/postloading dose. Alpha-lipoic Acid – Studies have indicated that ALA can be effective in combating neurotoxicity. The effective dose range for ALA is 500-3000mg. Study involving ALA and MDMA neurotoxicity Antacids – The combined effects of drugs, drinking (even water) and dancing can seriously upset stomachs. Having a few Tums handy can preserve a good trip and save you a jog to the loo. Grapefruit Juice – Grapefruit juice inhibits CYP3A4, which is an enzyme in your digestive system that aids in the metabolism of many drugs. By inhibiting CYP3A4, you are essentially making more MDMA available. Although there is some debate as to what exact component(s) of grapefruit juice have this effect, it is accepted that something in there does the job. Information on the effects of grapefruit juice can be found here: [ www.toxi.ch ] [ www.umich.edu ] [ www.ualberta.ca ] [ powernetdesign.com ] L-Tyrosine and DLPA – While some people advocate preloading with L-Tyrosine and/or DLPA, this idea has been discredited. DLPA is a precursor to L-Tyrosine, and L-Tyrosine is a precursor to dopamine. Much of the speculation about MDMA related neurotoxicity centres on dopamine being taken up through serotonin reuptake transporters. Other Substances – There are a smattering of other preloading tricks recommended by all sorts of people. The ones listed above are the most key and the most proven. More information on preloading/postloading can be found here: [ www.erowid.org ] [ www.rollinballzcrew.com ] |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lone_Star replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 3:36pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SebastianPrelar replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 4:03pm |
 Coolness: 64820 | More, more, more!! Post more links!!!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 5:05pm |
| Coolness: 229705 | lol i still didnt find info on what binders are used.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 5:44pm |
 Coolness: 685620 | ...If you order a steak, are you gonna be happy with a big mac? If you ask for pepsi with no ice and you get rootbeer with ice, is that what you asked for?
Cutting drugs with anything is not cool. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 5:58pm |
| Coolness: 229705 | a binding agent is used to make powder into tavblet form. Binders are a necessary part of that process. I'm not familiar with the types or names of binders used, and I'm interested in learning more about them.. thats all. Thanks for checking the thread tho. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 6:08pm |
| Coolness: 685620 | That's the problem: MDMA doesn't press into pills, that's why people cut them, and most of the time you get very little MDMA and a lot more coke/speed/crystal.
If you want to do Extacy, get a pressed pill and hope for the best, it's like playing russian roulette with chemicals. If you want to do MDMA, then you get it in a cap and generally it's un-cut (unless your dealer is a real dick) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 6:28pm |
| Coolness: 229705 | Yeh, but not everyone cuts using another drug, proper cutting ought to use harmless binding agents, not nasty crap like speed or coke... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Feb 10, 2005 @ 7:14pm |
| Coolness: 685620 | Originally posted by SKINTRACKER...
Yeh, but not everyone cuts using another drug, proper cutting ought to use harmless binding agents, not nasty crap like speed or coke... Tell THAT to everyone that you'll EVER get a pressed pill from... If you take a pressed pill, your taking "Extacy". If you take a cap full of MDMA (or MDA, or 2-Ci, or whatever) then that's what your getting.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Sun Feb 13, 2005 @ 3:59am |
 Coolness: 91720 | Ideally, ecstasy should be pure MDMA, though inactive binding agents will be necessary in a pressed pill. But binding agents shouldn't be considered as "cut" because the purpose isn't to dilute the drug, I'm not sure the actual amount of the binding agent in a pill but I'm sure it isn't much. It does seem like ecstasy caps tend to be more pure than pills, at least in Montreal, but of course theres no way to be sure until you try it. I also think that many people actually prefer MDMA cut with a bit of speed, at least for taking at a rave, because MDMA by itself itsn't that stiumulating and can even be hard to dance on if your rolling too hard. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Feb 14, 2005 @ 2:36pm |
 Coolness: 145230 | i always find, if someone has a good batch of mdma caps, it's worth it to buy a bunch and save them in your fridge |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Mon Feb 14, 2005 @ 5:11pm |
| Coolness: 229705 | the purpose of this is that it's possible I may be obtaining some uncut mdma in crystal form, and I may wish to either a)press it into tablet form, or b)capsle them..
I was advised againt taking it in its pure crystal form.. Anyone know why? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Tue Feb 15, 2005 @ 1:53am |
| Coolness: 91720 | No reason why you can"t take it in crystal form just dissolve the dose in water |
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