Question On Tracks W/ Kbps
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire replied on Sat Jun 4, 2011 @ 4:19pm |
 Coolness: 66640 | 320 compared to 224 ish kbp/s how big would the sound system have to be to notice the difference ?
just curious, there are only a few tracks i'm looking for but it's a nightmare atm. "pay for your tracks you leeching piece of shit" at the moment i can't buy these tracks and i only found 2 of them actually for sale anyway anyway i wanted to know if i can pull off playing 224 without the sound quality being compromised badly |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Sat Jun 4, 2011 @ 6:46pm |
 Coolness: 127705 | Its not so much a question of how big the sound system is ... its more a question of how deaf the people you're playing for are. Will it sound like music... Yes! Will the next proper dj make you sound like a fucking sissy who doesn't deserve to call himself a dj? ... As well! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire replied on Sat Jun 4, 2011 @ 8:10pm |
| Coolness: 66640 | k whoa calm down, i'm just asking....
i also meant jbl's opposed to other sound systems, jbls deserve quality tracks, yorkvilles i remember a while ago i had a couple of low kbs tracks nobody noticed, they actually really liked it.. the actual sound quality was great on the songs. some tracks that are around 190 actually sound crystal clear as opposed to some other tracks that are 320 + don't sound as good at all. originals and all, i have very good headphones too so i can hear any imperfection, but i wanted to know if it was just an illusion or something, that even if it sounds clear and perfect it will sound different on a large sound system. i'd rather be safe than sorry ^^ i honestly just want to get it right, its not just simple house parties anymore, you know ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cjbsexx replied on Sat Jun 4, 2011 @ 9:22pm |
 Coolness: 48630 | Originally Posted By BR34TH3
Its not so much a question of how big the sound system is ... its more a question of how deaf the people you're playing for are. Will it sound like music... Yes! Will the next proper dj make you sound like a fucking sissy who doesn't deserve to call himself a dj? ... As well! How to be a dick without actually answering anything or adding anything constructive to the topic !! Welcome to the great community of [ rave.ca ] . Originally Posted By kire
k whoa calm down, i'm just asking.... i also meant jbl's opposed to other sound systems, jbls deserve quality tracks, yorkvilles i remember a while ago i had a couple of low kbs tracks nobody noticed, they actually really liked it.. the actual sound quality was great on the songs. some tracks that are around 190 actually sound crystal clear as opposed to some other tracks that are 320 + don't sound as good at all. originals and all, i have very good headphones too so i can hear any imperfection, but i wanted to know if it was just an illusion or something, that even if it sounds clear and perfect it will sound different on a large sound system. i'd rather be safe than sorry ^^ i honestly just want to get it right, its not just simple house parties anymore, you know ? Hi, it doesn't have to be a very big system to make a difference. On Desktop speakers, you can hardly make the difference between 192 and 320. But on Noah's JBL speakers ( which you are probably refering to) It will make a real difference. The percussions will sound clearer, the leads will be brighter, the bass will be tighter etc. The best is to get the original CD or buy the WAV files. there are sites like Beatport or Juno Download that sell WAV files for a good price. As for some tracks @ 192 sounding better than other tracks @ 320, it's all a matter of the original track, was it properly mastered? Does it sound like crap to begin with? What is the original source. Some russian mp3 sites sell ' 320 kbps' mp3 files which are actually 192 kbps transformed into 320. So always buy your music from legit sources. Hope it answers your question ! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Sat Jun 4, 2011 @ 10:23pm |
| Coolness: 127705 | As an aspiring dj wishing to join the ranks of all those who have come before him one should be focused on keeping the bar high and limiting compromise. Lowering the bar and scouring for cheap shortcuts and workarounds is shortsighted at best.
Thats not how we got here and its not what's going to keep us thriving. Dj's really shouldn't be playing out mp3's, To learn... fine.. but to sit there and think your going to make any significant positive impact on the community by promoting lesser values is ridiculous. The sheer amount of free dj's out there these days is astonishing and the fact we're even having this discussion about mp3's and jbl's is testament to the utter disgrace since management has become. There's a fuckton of people out there just waiting for promoters to get their shit together with proper sound systems and djs rocking proper sounding material. Don't underestimate yourselves. People do care and these things play a large part in the choices they make as party goers....cuz it aint just simple house parties anymore, you know ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cjbsexx replied on Sun Jun 5, 2011 @ 2:29am |
| Coolness: 48630 | Originally Posted By BR34TH3
As an aspiring dj wishing to join the ranks of all those who have come before him one should be focused on keeping the bar high and limiting compromise. Lowering the bar and scouring for cheap shortcuts and workarounds is shortsighted at best. Thats not how we got here and its not what's going to keep us thriving. Dj's really shouldn't be playing out mp3's, To learn... fine.. but to sit there and think your going to make any significant positive impact on the community by promoting lesser values is ridiculous. The sheer amount of free dj's out there these days is astonishing and the fact we're even having this discussion about mp3's and jbl's is testament to the utter disgrace since management has become. There's a fuckton of people out there just waiting for promoters to get their shit together with proper sound systems and djs rocking proper sounding material. Don't underestimate yourselves. People do care and these things play a large part in the choices they make as party goers....cuz it aint just simple house parties anymore, you know ? Hi, with all due respect, beeing a DJ is nothing special. Anyone can be a DJ. This is like typowriter complaining about internet becoming big, in 1994. there's nothing thriving or profitable about beeing a Dj. The whole game changed, get used to it, or get sour and make stupid comments on internet forums. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire replied on Sun Jun 5, 2011 @ 7:25am |
| Coolness: 66640 | hey thanks cjb! i actually found a lot of the tracks on that site and more, i'd been hunting for a while like i said earlier i only found 2 songs that were HQ to purchase but the price was unrealistic.. i'm not cheap, but also not stupid... and i also may order the original cd's as well since a lot of the tracks are pretty much the style i mix =)
well, there was a russian site that had an exact copy of one of the tracks, i'm having trouble with it though because it is original at 320 kbps but sounds almost the same as the 220 one i dled earlier, the bassline is a little more clear but that's about it. i'm going to hunt other sites and see if i can purchase it in hq, then i'll properly compare ^^ .. seems like an extremely rare song though. thanks again btw! @ br34the or w/e dude stfu " as an aspiring dj wishes to join the ranks of " blah blah blah dude wtf are you going on about, all i was asking was if the fucking sound quality would be compromised, i don't need your sob story on how " oh free dj's are ruining the sinnnce, you're cutting corners" i just said before, mixing a house party and mixing a rave are worlds apart. if my name is on the line i want quality. it was a simple question. i don't need you to project your own personal feelings on how or what things should be. you're bitching on cutting corners n shit, since when was the harm in asking ? did you not notice me ASKING if it would compromise the sound quality ? because i care about the people listening to my set ? instead i have this ignorant response, you could have been at least a little helpful as opposed to full out insulting. yeah i would personally rather not pay. if there was a way to get the track in hq without paying why the fuck wouldn't i do it ? i'm not being paid for what i do, and i share with everyone the tracks i mix, i promote them if anything. "Thats not how we got here and its not what's going to keep us thriving." whatever dude, last i checked psytrance dj's/producers are a dime a dozen and will never make enough to live off of in north america. and what the fuck is wrong with playing for free ? who the fuck are you to say shit like that ? "The sheer amount of free dj's out there these days is astonishing" it's very obvious what you're implying. you want to make $$ go mix mainstream like 3/4 the other dj's in montreal it boggles my mind that you're bitching about "aspiring dj's" cutting corners and fucking shit up, ON a topic where a dj is ASKING instead of just DOING it, because i care about what the audience hears. i want them to have a great experience, if i didnt care i wouldn't have posted and just risked playing the tracks thinking it sounds clear. i was hoping for advice or guidance. and from cjb i appreciate it. it's not a welcome warmth, it's not a house party, it's a rave. people are spending an entire night of their free time to hear performances and quality music. if you just said : " 220 kbps will compromise the quality and is not worth it. even with yorkvilles, you should put your effort into getting hq 320 tracks. here are some sites that may have what you're looking for. or whatever etc etc " i would have been like shit thanks man, you saved me a lot of troubles and headaches i owe you one etc, boom. performers helping each other out. isn't that what it's supposed to be all about ? this isn't a cut throat scene it's a pretty tightly knit community, if you don't want to help or give advice fine. but try and refrain from being a fuckin dick next time. seriously p.s yeah i was talking about noahs jbl's ^^ i love his speakers haha, amazing clarity, i'm always in awe every time i hear them in action, they can't compare... too many people use meyer or w/e outdoor speakers at indoor events, he went the right way, quality over quantity, hence why i believe jbl deserves the best quality tracks, it's the kind of sound where you don't have to scream over the music when speaking with your buds, your ears don't ring or feel plugged afterwards as well... hard to explain, anyway i think this is where i stop making sense... i'm tired its been a long night/day. whew ^^ cheers |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Sun Jun 5, 2011 @ 12:03pm |
 Coolness: 226215 | @Kire: You should know who to listen too.
Breathe is motherfucking Kode-6. He was spinning when you were all still playin with your poop. What I'm trying to say here, is that Breather is right. The whole scene is going downhill and loosing recognition all over because of lowest denomitor syndrome. Th minutes "new talent" cut round corners, the whole output gets changed. And then you got the living room deejays hating on the actual pro's cuz they set standards that no living room puppet-dejay can live up to. So then we have some people with questionable talent telling new comers to not follow the rules so they don't get bettered by newly arriving dejays. Let me make it simpler. Breathe wants the deejaying artform to grow. Cbjsex (and others I could name at least 10) want YOU(Kire and new dj's) to be low quality deejay, so THEY (CJB and the others) still look good without having to actually put effort and still get pussy. Get it? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire replied on Sun Jun 5, 2011 @ 1:41pm |
| Coolness: 66640 | well i probably shouldn't have flipped that hard, if that is what he's trying to do then all the power to him. but i feel he came off condescending as hell, looking down on me even when i'm basically just asking if i can still have good quality with a lower kbps, instead of trying to give advice he just drops a comment like :
" its more a question of how deaf the people you're playing for are. Will it sound like music... Yes! Will the next proper dj make you sound like a fucking sissy who doesn't deserve to call himself a dj?" what the fuck is that ? am i not supposed to feel insulted ? i'm asking these questions to learn instead of just making mistakes from the get go, it's not like i'm going " hahaaa fuck everyone! who cares about quality!" i'm asking about it, i'm not * lowering the standard*, i want my sets to sound nice, clear etc. and i'm not sure i understand what you mean, cjb is the one who's been helping me with this, i have no shame in saying that before i never even thought about the kbps of a track, if it sounds clean on my phones it'll sound clean on the decks, and it always did, i've always trusted my ears. but now i'm dealing with a higher quality set up as well as a professional performance. i want everything to be proper, and yet to jump the gun and assume i'm just being lazy and cut corners ? that pissed me off ! i have a lot of respect for kode 6, i was actually caught off guard when you wrote that... but if all he's going to do is give 2 cent remarks like that when i'm genuinely asking for advice i don't see the point. if he wants it to grow he should support and guide people and if those remarks were his advice then i don't want any more of it tbh, i didn't know helping people involved putting them down. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Sun Jun 5, 2011 @ 1:51pm |
| Coolness: 226215 | Originally Posted By KIRE IF HE WANTS IT TO GROW HE SHOULD SUPPORT AND GUIDE PEOPLE
and if those remark were his advice then i don't want any more of it tbh, i didn't know helping people involved putting them down. That's what he's doing. See, it's called tough love. He states his opinion about how things are. But hell, I'm not his fucking pr agent. You either take his unbiased, educated and experienced advice, and see the bigger picture. Or bend over and let CJB rim job you. I mean, this is Ravewave, you can't take everything personnal. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire replied on Sun Jun 5, 2011 @ 2:09pm |
| Coolness: 66640 | well he has a pretty strong opinion then, i just don't like feeling labeled as someone that i'm blatantly not.
yeah true, it's just how i interpret shit i guess, i'm all for taking advice and learning it's just hard to see any of it as constructive.. but whateve's i mean cjb told me exactly what i needed to know minus the insults and condescending attitude, it's easier to learn from soneone who's willing to take the time and teach you the little things that you alone might miss or not be aware of, |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cjbsexx replied on Sun Jun 5, 2011 @ 5:11pm |
| Coolness: 48630 | Originally Posted By MOLOCH
@Kire: You should know who to listen too. Breathe is motherfucking Kode-6. He was spinning when you were all still playin with your poop. What I'm trying to say here, is that Breather is right. The whole scene is going downhill and loosing recognition all over because of lowest denomitor syndrome. Th minutes "new talent" cut round corners, the whole output gets changed. And then you got the living room deejays hating on the actual pro's cuz they set standards that no living room puppet-dejay can live up to. So then we have some people with questionable talent telling new comers to not follow the rules so they don't get bettered by newly arriving dejays. Let me make it simpler. Breathe wants the deejaying artform to grow. Cbjsex (and others I could name at least 10) want YOU(Kire and new dj's) to be low quality deejay, so THEY (CJB and the others) still look good without having to actually put effort and still get pussy. Get it? Eyh, - How am I telling Kire to be low quality by suggesting him to buy CD's or original WAV files ?? - So by telling someone to try upgrading his sound quality, I'm encouraging the scene down. Wow. Funny ! Seriously, it's old pill poppers like you who are bringing this forum and community down. Your constant bad mood is amusing at best, but not really of any help. Breathe is an awesome Dj, he's been around for years, yeah, no one denied that, but if you read carefully he simply told the OP to 'FUCK OFF'. What a good way to encourage the scene and make it stronger. I would rather Kire listen to 'stupid new comers' like me who actually have been doing music since childhood and give CONSTRUCTIVE advices to people, then to the K-holed retard dude who was begging me for help at New Year's party cause his brain was frying ( yup just looked at your pictures, you were indeed that dude in the sofa right next to me acting like a pure retard). Your credibility resumes to your bad ass attitude on this forum. Kick ass !! As for your interest, regarding your remark on pussies, I have been dating the same girl for the past 4 years, and never dated girls HALF my age like some creeps have actually done here. peace. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Sun Jun 5, 2011 @ 5:14pm |
 Coolness: 140625 | ... Originally Posted By KIRE
" its more a question of how deaf the people you're playing for are. Will it sound like music... Yes! Will the next proper dj make you sound like a fucking sissy who doesn't deserve to call himself a dj?" what the fuck is that ? it's a fair answer... you chose to be insulted by it instead of taking the time to understand what he's saying. If you chose to go with low quality, it WILL translate on big sound. You will get limited bandwith and once there is a switch there will be a noticeable difference. Anyone who has half an ear will know exactly why that "noticeable difference" happened and you'll look like a toy. He didn't say, "you are a toy" from the start, he said, if you chose to compromise quality, you will look like a toy. it's a fair answer, you mistook it as an insult and you, sir, are the dick in this discussion. Shame on you. by the way, if you think jbl is good sound quality, don't trust your ears... your ears are shit |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire replied on Sun Jun 5, 2011 @ 6:24pm |
| Coolness: 66640 | i interpreted it completely different, and that's what i was afraid of. that's why i was asking ^^ i was having a hell of a time before trying to find the tracks anywhere and i already had the set ready before being told about the kbps thing, so for me i felt i wasted a lot of time, i thought i could salvage it, guess not.
and honestly that could very well be true lol, but i can't say i've ever received advice in that kinda... style ? i mean wouldn't it have been easier to say " if u go low quality you will be a low quality dj" or something like that ? could have done without the " fucking sissy who doesn't deserve to be a dj " bit but w/e's and to each their own on that, i prefer jbl's over a lot of the sound systems that are being used. doesn't mean my ears are shit, there are so many comparisons i can do between the different sound systems, it's just preference. i love the clarity from the jbl's. everyone here is obsessed with meyer and that other company, well i can say the same thing right back, there are a lot of people who feel the same way. it's different personal opinions |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Sun Jun 5, 2011 @ 6:49pm |
| Coolness: 127705 | A soundsystem is nothing without a proper soundtech. Otherwise its just luck of the draw. ...And here I go again with the cutting corners bullshit again.. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH... fukkit. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire replied on Sun Jun 5, 2011 @ 7:23pm |
| Coolness: 66640 | lol, what do you mean ? like fine tuning ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean replied on Mon Jun 6, 2011 @ 8:51am |
 Coolness: 219910 | Everything I play is 128kbps or under, no one ever notices.
I usually cut the songs right out of other peoples sets, works great! Never play wavs, they ALWAYS sound like shit on JBL speakers. Hope that helps Kire! Good Luck! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Mon Jun 6, 2011 @ 11:57am |
 Coolness: 91330 | Originally Posted By DJ_DIALECT
Everything I play is 128kbps or under, no one ever notices. I usually cut the songs right out of other peoples sets, works great! Never play wavs, they ALWAYS sound like shit on JBL speakers. Hope that helps Kire! Good Luck! lmao! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire replied on Tue Jun 7, 2011 @ 3:58am |
| Coolness: 66640 | haha, ffs. :P well he explained some shit to me so at least now i have a better understanding of the skeez ^^ |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean replied on Tue Jun 7, 2011 @ 9:02am |
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