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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire a répondu le Thu 18 Aug, 2011 @ 4:44pm
kire
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all this new weird shit in the scene ?

"what did u take ? "

" a speed, you ? "

"oh i'm on mtk and 2ki mixed with a bit of 2ci and etc etc"

when i first heard of 2cb and 2ci last year i was like alright, but now it's like
500 different acronyms and EVERYONE is on it, " yeah its like a mix of like; acid, e, shrooms
speed, and like a bit of pcp. yeahhh" lol

the fuck does that even mean !
I'm feeling montreal bassix right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Ashigaikha a répondu le Thu 18 Aug, 2011 @ 9:53pm
ashigaikha
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Alexander "Sasha" Theodore Shulgin[1] (born June 17, 1925) is an American pharmacologist, chemist, artist, and drug developer.

Shulgin is credited with the popularization of MDMA, commonly known as ecstasy, in the late 1970s and early 1980s, especially for psychopharmaceutical use and the treatment of depression and post-traumatic stress disorder. In subsequent years, Shulgin discovered, synthesized, and bioassayed over 230 psychoactive compounds. In 1991 and 1997, he and his wife Ann Shulgin authored the books PiHKAL and TiHKAL on the topic of psychoactive drugs. Shulgin discovered many noteworthy phenethylamines including the 2C* family of which 2C-T-2, 2C-T-7, 2C-E, 2C-I, and 2C-B are most well known. Additionally, Shulgin performed seminal work into the descriptive synthesis of compounds based on the organic compound tryptamine.

whether or not he is doing so within the bounds of the law.

A SHORT INDEX TO THE PHENETHYLAMINES
This short index to the phenethylamines lists the 179 entries that follow in
alphabetical order. The abbreviation PEA is for phenethylamine, and A is for
amphetamine. The long index includes all synonyms and is in Appendix A.
Code Compact Chemical name

1 AEM α-Ethyl-3,4,5-trimethoxy-PEA
2 AL 4-Allyloxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
3 ALEPH 4-Methylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-A
4 ALEPH-2 4-Ethylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-A
5 ALEPH-4 4-Isopropylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-A
6 ALEPH-6 4-Phenylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-A
7 ALEPH-7 4-Propylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-A
8 ARIADNE 2,5-Dimethoxy-α-ethyl-4-methyl-PEA
9 ASB 3,4-Diethoxy-5-methoxy-PEA
10 B 4-Butoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
11 BEATRICE 2,5-Dimethoxy-4,N-dimethyl-A
12 2BIS-TOM 2,5-Bismethylthio-4-methyl-A
13 BOB 4-Bromo-2,5,'-trimethoxy-PEA
14 BOD 2,5,'-Trimethoxy-4-methyl-PEA
15 BOH α-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
16 BOHD 2,5-Dimethoxy-'-hydroxy-4-methyl-PEA
17 BOM 3,4,5,'-Tetramethoxy-PEA
18 4-Br-3,5-DMA 4-Bromo-3,5-dimethoxy-A
19 2-Br-4,5-MDA 2-Bromo-4,5-methylenedioxy-A
20 2C-B 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
21 3C-BZ 4-Benzyloxy-3,5-dimethoxy-A
22 2C-C 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
23 2C-D 4-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
24 2C-E 4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
25 3C-E 4-Ethoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-A
26 2C-F 4-Fluoro-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
27 2C-G 3,4-Dimethyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
28 2C-G-3 3,4-Trimethylene-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
29 2C-G-4 3,4-Tetramethylene-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
30 2C-G-5 3,4-Norbornyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
31 2C-G-N 1,4-Dimethoxynaphthyl-2-ethylamine
32 2C-H 2,5-Dimethoxy-PEA
33 2C-I 4-Iodo-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
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34 2C-N 4-Nitro-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
35 2C-O-4 4-Isopropoxy-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
36 2C-P 4-Propyl-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
37 CPM 4-Cyclopropylmethoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
38 2C-SE 4-Methylseleno-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
39 2C-T 4-Methylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
40 2C-T-2 4-Ethylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
41 2C-T-4 4-Isopropylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
42 Ψ-2C-T-4 4-Isopropylthio-2,6-dimethoxy-PEA
43 2C-T-7 4-Propylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
44 2C-T-8 4-Cyclopropylmethylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
45 2C-T-9 4-tert-Butylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
46 2C-T-13 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-(2-methoxyethylthio)phenethylamine
47 2C-T-15 4-Cyclopropylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
48 2C-T-17 4-sec-Butylthio-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
49 2C-T-21 4-(2-Fluoroethylthio)-2,5-dimethoxy-PEA
50 4-D 4-Trideuteromethyl-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
51 '-D β,β-Dideutero-3,4,5-trimethoxy-PEA
52 DESOXY 4-Me-3,5-Dimethoxy-PEA
53 2,4-DMA 2,4-Dimethoxy-A
54 2,5-DMA 2,5-Dimethoxy-A
55 3,4-DMA 3,4-Dimethoxy-A
56 DMCPA 1-(2,5-Dimethoxy-4-methylphenyl)-2-cyclopropylamine
57 DME 3,4-Dimethoxy-'-hydroxy-PEA
58 DMMDA 2,5-Dimethoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
59 DMMDA-2 2,3-Dimethoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy-A
60 DMPEA 3,4-Dimethoxy-PEA
61 DOAM 4-Amyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
62 DOB 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-A
63 DOBU 4-Butyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
64 DOC 4-Chloro-2,5-dimethoxy-A
65 DOEF 4-(2-Fluoroethyl)-2,5-dimethoxy-A
66 DOET 4-Ethyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
67 DOI 4-Iodo-2,5-dimethoxy-A
68 DOM 4-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
69 Ψ-DOM 4-Methyl-2,6-dimethoxy-A
70 DON 4-Nitro-2,5-dimethoxy-A
71 DOPR 4-Propyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
72 E 4-Ethoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
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73 EEE 2,4,5-Triethoxy-A
74 EEM 2,4-Diethoxy-5-methoxy-A
75 EME 2,5-Diethoxy-4-methoxy-A
76 EMM 2-Ethoxy-4,5-dimethoxy-A
77 ETHYL-J N,α-diethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
78 ETHYL-K N-Ethyl-a-propyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
79 F-2 2-Methyl-5-methoxybenzofuranyl-6-(2-aminopropane)
80 F-22 2,2-Dimethyl-5-methoxybenzofuranyl-6-(2-aminopropane)
81 FLEA N-Hydroxy-N-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
82 G-3 3,4-Trimethylene-2,5-dimethoxy-A
83 G-4 3,4-Tetramethylene-2,5-dimethoxy-A
84 G-5 3,4-Norbornyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
85 GANESHA 3,4-Dimethyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
86 G-N 1,4-Dimethoxynaphthyl-2-isopropylamine
87 HOT-2 2,5-Dimethoxy-N-hydroxy-4-ethylthio-PEA
88 HOT-7 2,5-Dimethoxy-N-hydroxy-4-n-propylthio-PEA
89 HOT-1 2,5-Dimethoxy-N-hydroxy-4-sec-butylthio-PEA
90 IDNNA 2,5-Dimethoxy-N,N-dimethyl-4-iodo-A
91 IM 2,3,4-Trimethoxy-PEA
92 IP 3,5-Dimethoxy-4-isopropoxy-PEA
93 IRIS 5-Ethoxy-2-methoxy-4-methyl-A
94 J α-Ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
95 LOPHOPHINE 3-Methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy-PEA
96 M 3,4,5-Trimethoxy-PEA
97 4-MA 4-Methoxy-A
98 MADAM-6 2,N-Dimethyl-4,5-methylenedioxy-A
99 MAL 3,5-Dimethoxy-4-methallyloxy-PEA
100 MDA 3,4-Methylenedioxy-A
101 MDAL N-Allyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
102 MDBU N-Butyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
103 MDBZ N-Benzyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
104 MDCPM N-Cyclopropylmethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
105 MDDM N,N-Dimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
106 MDE N-Ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
107 MDHOET N-(2-Hydroxyethyl)-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
108 MDIP N-Isopropyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
109 MDMA N-Methyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
110 MDMC N-Methyl-3,4-ethylenedioxy-A
111 MDMEO N-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
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112 MDMEOET N-(2-Methoxyethyl)-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
113 MDMP α,α,N-Trimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
114 MDOH N-Hydroxy-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
115 MDPEA 3,4-Methylenedioxy-PEA
116 MDPH α,α-Dimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
117 MDPL N-Propargyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
118 MDPR N-Propyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
119 ME 3,4-Dimethoxy-5-ethoxy-PEA
120 MEDA 3,4-Ethylenedioxy-5-methoxy-A
121 MEE 2-Methoxy-4,5-diethoxy-A
122 MEM 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-ethoxy-A
123 MEPEA 3-Methoxy-4-ethoxy-PEA
124 META-DOB 5-Bromo-2,4-dimethoxy-A
125 META-DOT 5-Methylthio-2,4-dimethoxy-A
126 METHYL-DMA N-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxy-A
127 METHYL-DOB 4-Bromo-2,5-dimethoxy-N-methyl-A
128 METHYL-J N-Methyl-α-ethyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
129 METHYL-K N-Methyl-α-propyl-3,4-methylenedioxy-PEA
130 METHYL-MA N-Methyl-4-methoxy-A
131 METHYL-MMDA-2 N-Methyl-2-methoxy-4,5- methylenedioxy-A
132 MMDA 3-Methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy-A
133 MMDA-2 2-Methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxy-A
134 MMDA-3a 2-Methoxy-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
135 MMDA-3b 4-Methoxy-2,3-methylenedioxy-A
136 MME 2,4-Dimethoxy-5-ethoxy-A
137 MP 3,4-Dimethoxy-5-propoxy-PEA
138 MPM 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-propoxy-A
139 ORTHO-DOT 2-Methylthio-4,5-dimethoxy-A
140 P 3,5-Dimethoxy-4-propoxy-PEA
141 PE 3,5-Dimethoxy-4-phenethyloxy-PEA
142 PEA PEA
143 PROPYNYL 4-Propynyloxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
144 SB 3,5-Diethoxy-4-methoxy-PEA
145 TA 2,3,4,5-Tetramethoxy-A
146 3-TASB 4-Ethoxy-3-ethylthio-5-methoxy-PEA
147 4-TASB 3-Ethoxy-4-ethylthio-5-methoxy-PEA
148 5-TASB 3,4-Diethoxy-5-methylthio-PEA
149 TB 4-Thiobutoxy-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
150 3-TE 4-Ethoxy-5-methoxy-3-methylthio-PEA
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151 4-TE 3,5-Dimethoxy-4-ethylthio-PEA
152 2-TIM 2-Methylthio-3,4-dimethoxy-PEA
153 3-TIM 3-Methylthio-2,4-dimethoxy-PEA
154 4-TIM 4-Methylthio-2,3-dimethoxy-PEA
155 3-TM 3-Methylthio-4,5-dimethoxy-PEA
156 4-TM 4-Methylthio-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
157 TMA 3,4,5-Trimethoxy-A
158 TMA-2 2,4,5-Trimethoxy-A
159 TMA-3 2,3,4-Trimethoxy-A
160 TMA- 2,3,5-Trimethoxy-A
161 TMA-5 2,3,6-Trimethoxy-A
162 TMA-6 2,4,6-Trimethoxy-A
163 3-TME 4,5-Dimethoxy-3-ethylthio-PEA
164 4-TME 3-Ethoxy-5-methoxy-4-methylthio-PEA
165 5-TME 3-Ethoxy-4-methoxy-5-methylthio-PEA
166 2T-MMDA-3a 2-Methylthio-3,4-methylenedioxy-A
167 4T-MMDA-2 4,5-Thiomethyleneoxy-2-methoxy-A
168 TMPEA 2,4,5-Trimethoxy-PEA
169 2-TOET 4-Ethyl-5-methoxy-2-methylthio-A
170 5-TOET 4-Ethyl-2-methoxy-5-methylthio-A
171 2-TOM 5-Methoxy-4-methyl-2-methylthio-A
172 5-TOM 2-Methoxy-4-methyl-5-methylthio-A
173 TOMSO 2-Methoxy-4-methyl-5-methylsulfinyl-A
174 TP 4-Propylthio-3,5-dimethoxy-PEA
175 TRIS 3,4,5-Triethoxy-PEA
176 3-TSB 3-Ethoxy-5-ethylthio-4-methoxy-PEA

Tryptamines

INDEX TO THE TRYPTAMINES
# SUBSTANCE CHEMICAL NAME
1 AL-LAD 6-Allyl-N,N-diethyl-NL
2 DBT N,N-Dibutyl-T
3 DET N,N-Diethyl-T
4 DIPT N,N-Diisopropyl-T
5 alpha,O-DMS 5-Methyoxy-alpha-methyl-T
6 DMT N,N-Dimethyl-T
7 2,alpha-DMT 2,alpha-Dimethyl-T
8 alpha,N-DMT alpha,N-Dimethyl-T
9 DPT N,N-Dipropyl-T
10 EIPT N-Ethyl-N-isopropyl-T
11 alpha-ET alpha-Ethyl-T
12 ETH-LAD 6,N,N-Triethyl-NL
13 Harmaline 3,4-Dihydro-7-methoxy-1-methyl-C
14 Harmine 7-Methyoxy-1-methyl-C
15 4-HO-DBT N,N-Dibutyl-4-hydroxy-T
16 4-HO-DET N,N-Diethyl-4-hydroxy-T
17 4-HO-DIPT N,N-Diisopropyl-4-hydroxy-T
18 4-HO-DMT N,N-Dimethyl-4-hydroxy-T
19 5-HO-DMT N,N-Dimethyl-5-hydroxy-T
20 4-HO-DPT N,N-Dipropyl-4-hydroxy-T
21 4-HO-MET N-Ethyl-4-hydroxy-N-methyl-T
22 4-HO-MIPT 4-Hydroxy-N-isopropyl-N-methyl-T
23 4-HO-MPT 4-Hydroxy-N-methyl-N-propyl-T
24 4-HO-pyr-T 4-Hydroxy-N,N-tetramethylene-T
25 Ibogaine A complexly substituted-T
26 LSD N,N-Diethyl-L
27 MBT N-Butyl-N-methyl-T
28 4,5-MDO-DIPT N,N-Diisopropyl-4,5-methylenedioxy-T
29 5,6-MDO-DIPT N,N-Diisopropyl-5,6-methylenedioxy-T
30 4,5-MDO-DMT N,N-Dimethyl-4,5-methylenedioxy-T
31 5,6-MDO-DMT N,N-Dimethyl-5,6-methylenedioxy-T
32 5,6-MDO-MIPT N-Isopropyl-N-methyl-5,6-methylenedioxy-T
33 2-Me-DET N,N-Diethyl-2-methyl-T
34 2-Me-DMT 2,N,N-Trimethyl-T
35 Melatonin N-Acetyl-5-methoxy-T
36 5-MeO-DET N,N-Diethyl-5-methoxy-T
37 5-MeO-DIPT N,N-Diisopropyl-5-methoxy-T
38 5-MeO-DMT 5-Methoxy-N,N-dimethyl-T
39 4-MeO-MIPT N-Isopropyl-4-methoxy-N-methyl-T
40 5-MeO-MIPT N-Isopropyl-5-methoxy-N-methyl-T
41 5,6-MeO-MIPT 5,6-Dimethoxy-N-isopropyl-N-methyl-T
42 5-MeO-NMT 5-Methoxy-N-methyl-T
43 5-MeO-pyr-T 5-Methoxy-N,N-tetramethylene-T
44 6-MeO-THH 6-Methoxy-1-methyl-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-C
45 5-MeO-TMT 5-Methoxy-2,N,N-trimethyl-T
46 5-MeS-DMT N,N-Dimethyl-5-methylthio-T
47 MIPT N-Isopropyl-N-methyl-T
48 alpha-MT alpha-Methyl-T
49 NET N-Ethyl-T
50 NMT N-Methyl-T
51 PRO-LAD 6-Propyl-NL
52 pyr-T N,N-Tetramethylene-T
53 T Tryptamine
54 Tetrahydroharmine 7-Methoxy-1-methyl-1,2,3,4-tetrahydro-C
55 alpha,N,O-TMS alpha,N-Dimethyl-5-methoxy-T


Every individual reacts differently to every chemical.
Know your Body - Know your Mind - Know your Substance - Know your Source.
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire a répondu le Thu 18 Aug, 2011 @ 11:30pm
kire
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oh dear god.....
I'm feeling montreal bassix right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Psyborg a répondu le Fri 19 Aug, 2011 @ 12:08am
psyborg
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God bless research chems. *reverence*

Ashigaika, you sure Shulgin succeeded to synthesize ibogaine? I often heard it was impossible to reproduce in labs because of the complexity of this molecule.


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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre a répondu le Fri 19 Aug, 2011 @ 8:35am
jojobizarre
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what are you on?

beer?

heu

walks away

YESSSS
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Psyborg a répondu le Fri 19 Aug, 2011 @ 3:48pm
psyborg
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LOL I wouldn't walk away, not my type to judge people on what they consume (unless it's something nasty, such as crack or things like that).
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Sparklz a répondu le Fri 19 Aug, 2011 @ 4:21pm
sparklz
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Originally Posted By JOJOBIZARRE

what are you on?

beer?

heu

walks away

YESSSS


bwahahahahaha +100
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire a répondu le Fri 19 Aug, 2011 @ 6:42pm
kire
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LOL XD, i guess im just losing touch with all the new crap that's hitting the scene, still gonna stay away from that stuff though ^^
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Good [+3]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Fri 19 Aug, 2011 @ 7:16pm
screwhead
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LOL 2ci/2cb was "new crap hitting the scene" 8 years ago.
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire a répondu le Fri 19 Aug, 2011 @ 8:46pm
kire
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really ? only until last year i heard about it, a few of my friends started getting into it, and now it's literally everywhere. it's like all people do
I'm feeling montreal bassix right now..
Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» flo a répondu le Fri 19 Aug, 2011 @ 8:48pm
flo
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History repeats itself :)
I've had the same feeling as yours 5-6 years ago.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Psyborg a répondu le Fri 19 Aug, 2011 @ 9:28pm
psyborg
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Many of these substances (2C-B, 2C-E, 2C-I, DMT and DPT, among others) were used recreationally since the 80's-90's, in some obscure underground networks of hardcore psychonauts, slowly spreading until you got what you have today: a deep interest about those molecules. The only new thing now is that a lot more people know about them than back in the days.
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Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Fri 19 Aug, 2011 @ 9:46pm
screwhead
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Originally Posted By KIRE

really ? only until last year i heard about it, a few of my friends started getting into it, and now it's literally everywhere. it's like all people do


Well, no shit, you've been raving for what, fifteen minutes?
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Andy_Riot a répondu le Fri 19 Aug, 2011 @ 10:42pm
andy_riot
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Getting high shouldn't have to be so complicated. I just want a good buzz! Lol.
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire a répondu le Sat 20 Aug, 2011 @ 2:51am
kire
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7 years... first one was deranged back in t.o, and i didn't hear about any " 2ci 2cb " shit back then, nor did i when i hit the scene up here a few years ago.

so it either wasn't around that much or i didn't meet the people that were on it, but i'm just noticing in the past few raves this summer an increasing amount of people are dosing and dropping these random pills
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Psykotropik a répondu le Sat 20 Aug, 2011 @ 3:00am
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You can easily and legally purchase large amounts of many phenethylamines and tryptamines online; this makes them a very appealing option for drug dealers and psychonauts. Considering that there's a serious dearth of real MDMA in the scene right now, and that these designer drugs are pure and often amazingly good, I'm not surprised that they've become so popular.
Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Psyborg a répondu le Sat 20 Aug, 2011 @ 4:36am
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Psykotropik, you resume well why they're so appealing. They're legal (for most), available, easy to find, potent and there's nothing like having your drugs shipped directly and discreetly to your place.
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire a répondu le Sat 20 Aug, 2011 @ 5:41am
kire
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well it'd make sense that way.. maybe that's why it's gotten so huge these past few months

p.s short index my ass how big is the real list wtf !
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Psyborg a répondu le Sat 20 Aug, 2011 @ 4:51pm
psyborg
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Ahah and I guess there's more to come! ;) There is many enthousiast chemists at work right now, creating new substances. Watch out!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AliceInAcidLand a répondu le Sat 20 Aug, 2011 @ 7:04pm
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Has any one tried 4-AcO-DMT?
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