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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zz.ee.vV replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 12:33am
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I hope Alex is gonna be ok. I never really knew about the whole money shit and whatnot, he never asked me for any. All I know is he spinned some good shit, and whas a talented mc as well as a chill party-goer. Everyone deserves being given second chances, so hopefully he'll eventually get his.

Good luck Holly, and Alex dude, hope you figure everything out and things take a turn for the better.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 12:33am
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I for one am not owed anything by alex. I wouldn't kick the shit out of him if I saw him, I'd still talk to him, even though quite a few of my friends regularly want to spend a day going out alex-hunting.

Getting their money back doesn't matter anymore. It's the principal of not fucking over the people that trusted in you. If someone calls themselves your friend, they borrow 500$ from you, never pay you back and then ignore you and go into hiding without even trying to talk to you about what went wrong, that's not a friend, that's scum that deserves a bullet. It's the principle. They may never get their money back, and it doesn't matter anymore. Someone has to be used as an example that you do NOT fuck around on people like he has.

Now, take that one-person fucking over one-person scenario, and make it one person fucking over 20. They could either sit there and be like "Mehh, whatever, we look like idiots to everyone we know for having trusted him" or, they can do something so that people know they don't let shit like that pass.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» caro replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 12:39am
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^ i agree with fred

he owes people but violence isn't really gonna solve much either way but if people have their minds set on it when they see him it might not be so good

and yea its just the principle that he fucked people over, people who helped him and gave him a place to live...food to eat.....rent money then being stabed in the back by the guy they helped out

it's not the nice way to do things...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 1:45am
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Beating the shit out of him is much, MUCH nicer than if he fucks over other people who might not stop at a simple beating. If he learns his lesson for once and smartens up, it'll never happen again. If not... Well.

There are not-so-pleasent altarnatives.

And btw, violence does solve a lot of problems. This whole "violence doesn't solve anything" concept is only something that people who have never REALLY had a problem believe. Violence doesn't solve MOST problems, but it's got it's place.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 11:57am
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including me
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nter replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 2:05pm
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this is a thread to try to find somones loved one why dont u all get fukken lives and stop bashing alex. he may have fukked u over but bashing somone on a bbs is no way to go about it, take your bitching somwere els.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Whatee_Guye replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 2:16pm
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SHIT BAH FUCKN GUYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 2:54pm
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i saw him exactly 3 minutes ago just outside dawson
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 4:42pm
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Mike has a point.

+ I bet some of the shit that they blame Alex ain't even his fault.

but the dude still has to pay up for what he realy did...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Atrix replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 5:23pm
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Objectively, if you do care about Alex, don't say where you saw him. There are people praying to find out where he is so they can make an example out of him.
I have never heard anyone say anything nice about him until this thread. From what I understood, Alex is cancer. If you want to say nice things about him and drop PLUR all over, great. Jesus loves you. The stories I'm getting are from people who actually know him intimately and people who I trust as being excellent judges of character. Some people who have said great things about him in this thread and paint him as a tragic victim I also hold to be good judges of character. I've met him only about 5 times and he made a really good impression each time, but his actions have spoken a lot more. It's actually quite beneficial for a parasite to have great people-skills.
If you are pro-Alex, for fuck sakes don't make him out to be a victim because he doesn't need excuses, he needs help. And if he is as talented and great as some of you have said he is, he's not tragic. He's pathetic.
IF you really cared about him, then get out from behind your computer and actually do something to help him. Talk is cheap. Ask Alex.

"It may be that the only purpose of your life is to serve as a warning to others"
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 5:27pm
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What's pathetic is thinking you know a guy when you 've met him 3 or 4 times.

btw.. being pro and con someone is fucking gay
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» no.name replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 5:28pm
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i saw alex on the bus like one week ago...it was the last time i saw him...but i know he is often at atwater with fucked up people...but i think alex have to pay for all the shit he did...but still....i'll give him a second chance...like Ze'ev says...anyways....good luck holly
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Plan-C replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 5:37pm
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To answer your questions Holly, people would like to fuck up Alex simply because he deserves it. As embarrassed as I am to admit it, Alex scammed me for jesus christ I don't know how much money. I know our written debt was at something like 600 dollars. But that doesn't count all the things he stole over the course of our friendship (bout 7 or 8 months). Amongst these is my 230$ skateboard which was still in NEAR PERFECT condition. He also stole at least a miscellaneous thousand dollars in other items - no joke and let's not forget about the 180 dollar phone bill boys and girls. He did this for the duration of the time I knew him. I was even nice enough to let him live in my house for a little over a month after being kicked out by his previous roomate over a thousand dollar debt in unpaid utilities, and rent. While he lived with me, I paid for his laundry, his food, and his party expenses for going out. He never washed a dish, cleaned anything up, was completely disrespectful of the rules of my house, and to top it all off he cleaned up jizz with my fucking toothbrush (I was fortunate enough to realize this before using it thank god). Towards the end, I began to catch on that he was a thieving little con-artist. He would deny stealing things when it was blatantly obvious. It got to the point one day where myself and an unnamed friend confronted him. After several denials he realized the futility of further lies and broke down crying pleeing for forgiveness and continued support from me his "good friend". I was dumb enough to go along with it, on the condition that he would see his therapist, get a job, and get out of my house since my roomates were moving in and needed the space, not to mention I needed my space from Alex. I also made the stipulation that he would not smoke weed, and kept a close eye on him. We succeeded in preventing him from smoking weed for 3 days successfully and that friday he moved out and took his records with him. On the way out he proceeded to grab my skateboard, which I did not notice until later, too late to get it back.

I know that this business should be the personal business of me and Alex, but I have to insist that at this point in time, I may share my business with anyone I like and that Alex rightfully has no say in anything about anything. I'm just one of the dozens of people Alex has fucked over in his years. Just one. As fred said earlier, now consider the damage he incurrred on me times 20 other people? 30 other people? 100? Whatever it is, it's enough to put your kids through college I'll bet. At this point in time, everyone should know and realize that Alex is a danger to himself, and to society. I couldn't give two shits about Alex himself, but if Alex is allowed to get away with this, then he will only do it again. I know he's gone through therapy and rehab and the likes before, and he's still a useless drug addicted parasite. I'm not confident that there's anyone who can help Alex get back on track. I haven't known Alex as long as a lot of people, but many of you know that I did used to hang out with him every day and I got to know him a lot better than most would think. Alex appears to me to be a waste of flesh, time, and money. I can understand Holly that as his sister, you feel an obligation to help him and that is all good. Alex most certainly needs help from someone. I only hope you consider the consequences of bringing him into your home. I'm not sure if you live in Montreal too, but if you do be sure to consider also that unwelcome visitors might come to your home looking for him if they find out he's staying there (no I'm not that type). Bottom line it might be better for you that you don't find him Holly. I'm sure he's caused your family more than enough trouble and pain already. It's only a matter of time before that trouble and pain finally catches up to him. He can't hide forever and the people he's fucked over haven't forgotten. I for one will always have an eye out for Alex, and I'm sorry but you won't be the first person to hear about it when I do find him.

---I'm not high. I was born that way---
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» lakester replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 5:45pm
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Jeebus, have you ever fought an addiction?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Atrix replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 6:17pm
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Try to say something intelligent here and the peanut gallery calls you gay and pathetic.
I have fought addiction. Providing him with excuses is bad. Anyone who succumbs to addiction is weak and if you disagree you are misled. It is hard, but you can only help yourself if you want to blah blah blah... It's a personality flaw and I speak as a person who has fought addiction, still deals with it, and has studied addiction in the contexts of everything from food to drugs, to sex, to homicide (go visit Millhaven Maximum, in Kingston ON to see what fucked up really is).
Skram, Maybe I don't know him as well as you do. I never dated him. But I know the behaviour and if I'm wrong, I'll appologise. As you will learn, I am never wrong.
And being pro or con an individual doesn't make you gay. Being homosexual and having sex with memebers of the same sex makes you gay. Like your father does with you! But while your father may be gay, you technically are not as you do not consent to his sex. You're a victim like the rest of your pathetic siblings!
Now go and breed with yourself you example of poor safe-sex practice.
PLUR
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 6:24pm
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Skram, Maybe I don't know him as well as you do. I never dated him. But I know the behaviour and if I'm wrong, I'll appologise. As you will learn, I am never wrong.


HAHAa that's gold.
I'll make sure to quote you often on that.

Ppl getting over addictions needed that second chance right there.

I'm pointing out the fact that you're becoming spiritual advisor about stuff that you know half of.

fuck dude: shut up with big speeches already.
you'll learn sooner or later that wrong/right is more complex than you'De ever think
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» lakester replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 6:34pm
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I'm not saying his addiction is an excuse for his behaviour and his actions. I'm saying it's a reason.

There's a lot more to all this then some people are making it about to be.

A fortune cookie once told me "A fool and his money are soon parted."
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Plan-C replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 7:01pm
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That's right lakester. A fool and his money are soon parted. Me, I lost a lot of money, but I won't make that mistake again. And anyone else would be a bigger fool to follow in my footsteps and give him the sympathy he doesn't need or deserve only to get fucked over the second the let their guard down. Let's not forget that unlike the lot of everyone else here, I knew nothing about Alex's past, and no one ever warned me that he was a manipulative, thieving, pathological liar. I can't understand how you people who have known him for so long and heard about if not directly experienced his bullshit can still be standing by his side. Especially when I've heard some of you voice very different oppionions publicly. While drug addiction is a disease, it's one that can be prevented with a little caution and thought, and overcome with time and pain, but not more drugs.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 7:03pm
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Pfft, what are you talking about! Jib and coke fix EVERYTHING!

Right?

Right?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Mon Oct 27, 2003 @ 7:35pm
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Jeeb.

I guess that's how it goes.. you can't realy snitch on friends. You can influence them not to do fuck up with ppl... but that's about it.

Bit of advice: if you spot someone like that... make sure you ask them for money forst.. then you have no bad feelings when your turn comes around.

If he does lend.. return it the next day.
makes an impression.

wtv. that's wack

one thing's for sure.. if ppl like that see you as a provider, they'll milk you.
I guess it doesn't help for changing the person but if you raise theire standard of being low-life by being a good low-life... it eventually makes a difference.

wtv... THAT was wack.
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