Retarded Protestors Targetting F1
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» bagofhate replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 1:35pm |
 Coolness: 24885 | So let me try and understand this logic:
Disrupt an event that makes Quebec a HUGE revenue in tax, tax that is used to fund school Yeah lets fuck up F1 and tourism to GET BACK AT THE GOVERNMENT! A new level of stupidity This is why Quebec / Montreal is a joke |
| Good [+3]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 2:12pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FRANKB replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 4:43pm |
 Coolness: 103250 | whats lame is writing about ur anger for the protestors on an internet thread. you should talk about it to your friends instead,,,haha friends.... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 5:14pm |
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| Good [+4]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 5:28pm |
 Coolness: 166460 | I don't think people should protest and be disruptive during the F1 -- I think should protest AGAINST F1, and on a regular basis.
What a fucking horrible outrageous waste of gas/oil, energy, and money. If that's how we get tourism and bank on taxes, then fuck it, I'd rather we were more in debt. Besides, there are literally a hundred other ways of attracting tourism, and this is by far the worst. Just 'cause it's already in place, we have to take it for granted that we need it? Fuck that. As for the students, at least they're finding ways of getting their point across in peaceful ways, instead of ultra-violence, which is more than I can say about any other country in turmoil these days. Be happy that they're targeting a bunch of cars going in circles, and not making car-bombs. (no offense to people who like watching car races, anyway I know you're into it just for the crashes :p ) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MelooDie replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 5:34pm |
 Coolness: 248340 | exactly. people should protest against fucking F1. really bad for environment..and a friend of mine who works in a hospital told me, there's a shitload of rapes during this time ( like 95% + than usual ) so the Americans come here, they rape our girl and come back to USA without any criminal charges..
Fuck F1 |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 5:46pm |
| Coolness: 166460 | Originally Posted By MELODRASTIK
exactly. people should protest against fucking F1. really bad for environment..and a friend of mine who works in a hospital told me, there's a shitload of rapes during this time ( like 95% + than usual ) so the Americans come here, they rape our girl and come back to USA without any criminal charges.. Fuck F1 o_O jesus christ, i din't think it went that far :( (of course, this thing attracts the worst kind of douche tourists) I was just talking about waste, but that's a million times worse :/ Back to the waste though (even if it now sounds tame) : 7 gallons of oil go into making 1 tire. Now, these fuckers change tires every few laps. And how many cars are involved? That's besides the fuel wasted on the driving itself. And note that they have their cars shipped to the race in a big truck .... Think about it. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 6:32pm |
 Coolness: 103170 | While I won't argue about what goes into making the tires. These fuckers don't change every few laps. A big part of the race strategy is tire strategy cuz you only get limited tires for the entire weekend
Over the race weekend, each driver has access to 11 sets of dry-weather tyres (six of the harder ‘prime’ specification and five of the softer ‘option’ specification), four sets of intermediate tyres and three sets of wet tyres. ... [ www.formula1.com ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MelooDie replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 6:36pm |
| Coolness: 248340 | Originally Posted By NATHAN
o_O jesus christ, i din't think it went that far :( (of course, this thing attracts the worst kind of douche tourists) I was really sad hearing that as well. :( |
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| Good [+3]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 7:40pm |
| Coolness: 166460 | Originally Posted By KISHMAY_PINAS
While I won't argue about what goes into making the tires. These fuckers don't change every few laps. A big part of the race strategy is tire strategy cuz you only get limited tires for the entire weekend Over the race weekend, each driver has access to 11 sets of dry-weather tyres (six of the harder ‘prime’ specification and five of the softer ‘option’ specification), four sets of intermediate tyres and three sets of wet tyres. ... [ www.formula1.com ] Ok, I did not know that, thnx! But still, better isn't necessarily good ... even if there's a limit, that's still 18 sets of tires, x 4 tires per set, that's 72 tires, x 7 gallons per tire -- that's over 500 gallons of Oil used just for making the tires, for each car. How many cars compete? How many F1 races are there every year? Anyway, you get my point ... I realize the tire thing is just a side-note to all the wasted gas, but generally we don't realize that what goes into a car isn't just the gas being used, oil is used for every single step of the process. So, FYI (incase you're actually interested xD ) : ''How much oil goes into making a tire? Approximately seven gallons. Five gallons are used as feedstock (from which the substances that combine to form synthetic rubber are derived), while two gallons supply the energy necessary for the manufacturing process. So if we do a basic mathematical equation we can start to form an estimate of how much it should cost a tire manufacture for a single tire to be produced. (Source Rubber Manufacture Association) '' So I don't think there's actual oil in tires, it's the manufacturing process that's crazy, given also the shipping and other steps in manufacturing that are taken for granted. And also, regardless of advances in 'green' technology being made in the tire industry, what the tires themselves do (and yes obviously designed to do) is inefficient : ''Michelin, the world's largest tire manufacturer, estimates that rolling resistance [friction caused by tires] accounts for 9 percent of global oil consumption; in contrast, making tires represents less than 1 percent.'' Oil is finite, and if humans want to keep consuming/using it, then maybe this kind of wasteful pass-time (aka ''sport'') should maybe be re-thought. Just sayin' ;) (and yes, I realize that making movies, and all that stuff that's considered sports and entertainment, also waste a ton of energy, but I mean, cars are just an obvious major culprit in oil waste/consumption) Update » Nathan wrote on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 7:42pm But again, all this pales in comparison to the fact that the F1 brings the kind of people that party hard and then rape our women :/ |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 7:42pm |
 Coolness: 145115 | Originally Posted By BAG_OF_FUUUUUU
So let me try and understand this logic: Disrupt an event that makes Quebec a HUGE revenue in tax, tax that is used to fund school Yeah lets fuck up F1 and tourism to GET BACK AT THE GOVERNMENT! A new level of stupidity This is why Quebec / Montreal is a joke hey! you re back! we missed you so much! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 9:22pm |
 Coolness: 166490 | yeah the F1 makes revenue to Quebec...
but it's NOT used to fund the schools. there is enough money to fund the schools if they wanted, that has been proven many times. they just prefer to make the money disappear into ''paradis fiscaux'' and live like kings. FUCK LA MONARCHIE ! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Max_x2 replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 9:41pm |
 Coolness: 33815 | Originally Posted By NATHAN
I don't think people should protest and be disruptive during the F1 -- I think should protest AGAINST F1, and on a regular basis. What a fucking horrible outrageous waste of gas/oil, energy, and money. If that's how we get tourism and bank on taxes, then fuck it, I'd rather we were more in debt. Besides, there are literally a hundred other ways of attracting tourism, and this is by far the worst. Just 'cause it's already in place, we have to take it for granted that we need it? Fuck that. As for the students, at least they're finding ways of getting their point across in peaceful ways, instead of ultra-violence, which is more than I can say about any other country in turmoil these days. Be happy that they're targeting a bunch of cars going in circles, and not making car-bombs. (no offense to people who like watching car races, anyway I know you're into it just for the crashes :p ) Just so you guyz remember... Formula one is a development platform for the car industry. So beside the fact it's pretty fun to watch, it brought the disk brake (Jaguar, late 60s i believe), traction control, active stability management, ABS... Which are all safety features that may have / might save your life. And since a couple years, it helps devellop new technologies that will help to build cars that are more fuel efficient. So i don't believe fuel waste is a matter here. Knock on the million trucks that passes by Mtl everyday to deliver our HDTVs, iphones, computers and such. Not to mention all those things will probably never be recycled. Ceci étant dit, j'crois quand même que c'tun bon endroit ou frapper. Justement pcke ça génère beaucoup de revenus au Cul-bec, pi pcke c'tun événement international. Ça donne beaucoup de visibilité... C'est donc gênant pour le gouvernement. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 10:13pm |
| Coolness: 166460 | Originally Posted By MAX_X2
Just so you guyz remember... Formula one is a development platform for the car industry. So beside the fact it's pretty fun to watch, it brought the disk brake (Jaguar, late 60s i believe), traction control, active stability management, ABS... Which are all safety features that may have / might save your life. And since a couple years, it helps devellop new technologies that will help to build cars that are more fuel efficient. So i don't believe fuel waste is a matter here. Knock on the million trucks that passes by Mtl everyday to deliver our HDTVs, iphones, computers and such. Not to mention all those things will probably never be recycled. Of course there are potential benefits, but do people really need all the glitz & glamor and the excuse of a race to do research? Seems a little decadent for developing new tech ... I know this is an industry, the races generate cash for development. New tech is great, 'specially in areas of efficiency, but then there's a whole other story behind that, part of which is still just car stuff to benefit car stuff; to benefit the companies behind them, and not always in the best interest of humanity. And yeah, there are many other wasteful things out there; it's unfortunate as well. I'm not an absolute car hater, I don't shit of my friends who are into cars, I'm not critical of friends who work at the races ... was just trying to add some perspective for no reason ;) We can agree that it's a decent target. I guess we'll see whether or not an impact is even made on the F1 from the protests - then it becomes another issue :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Max_x2 replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 10:30pm |
| Coolness: 33815 | Originally Posted By NATHAN
Of course there are potential benefits, but do people really need all the glitz & glamor and the excuse of a race to do research? Seems a little decadent for developing new tech ... I know this is an industry, the races generate cash for development. New tech is great, 'specially in areas of efficiency, but then there's a whole other story behind that, part of which is still just car stuff to benefit car stuff; to benefit the companies behind them, and not always in the best interest of humanity. And yeah, there are many other wasteful things out there; it's unfortunate as well. I'm not an absolute car hater, I don't shit of my friends who are into cars, I'm not critical of friends who work at the races ... was just trying to add some perspective for no reason ;) We can agree that it's a decent target. I guess we'll see whether or not an impact is even made on the F1 from the protests - then it becomes another issue :P La compétition pousse généralement l'humain à se dépasser.. Que ce soit du côté des ingénieurs, ou des pilotes. Mais ça me fait rire qu'il y ait encore du monde qui crache sur les voitures sports et cie... Encore là, quand ya un nombre incalculable de vans qui pourraient facilement rouler beaucoup plus vert, considérant que ckun semi-remorque a de besoin, c'est du couple, et que les moteurs électriques produisent encore plus de couple que les moteurs diesels. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 10:48pm |
| Coolness: 166490 | c'est aussi un peu le principe du pain et des jeux...
les courses automobiles, ou le sport en général, ça satisfait un genre d'esprit guerrier des gens... alors leurs esprits sont occupés par ces choses tellement cruciales et importantes, du genre 'qui va gagner la coupe' qu'il peut se passer plein de choses dans la politique, dans le monde, etc... pour eux c'est pas important. les manifs les font chier parce qu'ils sont pris dans le traffic et peuvent pas écouter le match... c'est comme... une réalité virtuelle ! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 4:26pm |
| Coolness: 166460 | Originally Posted By MAX_X2
La compétition pousse généralement l'humain à se dépasser.. Que ce soit du côté des ingénieurs, ou des pilotes. Mais ça me fait rire qu'il y ait encore du monde qui crache sur les voitures sports et cie... Encore là, quand ya un nombre incalculable de vans qui pourraient facilement rouler beaucoup plus vert, considérant que ckun semi-remorque a de besoin, c'est du couple, et que les moteurs électriques produisent encore plus de couple que les moteurs diesels. Oui, et c'est triste que les humains on besoin d'un excuse de merde competitif pour avancer technologiquement ... Et ce n'est pas les voitures qu'on crache dessus, c'est la course! Les autres choses qui sont des problemes ne sont pas moin problématique parce-qu'on parle d'une autre chose ... sauf que, un gros truck qui livre (même si c'est pas super efficace) d'la bouffe est quand même plus utile qu'un char qui tourne en rond! Encore, j'ai jamais dit qu'autres choses sont moin detrimental que le F1, mais ça ne veut pas dire que les courses sont innocent en comparaison à autres trucs néfaste. Honestly, I'm getting tired of the 'this is better than that, so it must be good' argument ... is that what we have to resign ourselves to? Arguing for the lesser of evils? Doesn't seem right to me. And what you do you say to the rape victims, victims of so-called 'tourism'? Thnx for taking one for the team ?? Tell them 'hey at least they're not racing trucks' ? Oh wait, that happens too ... I guess I'm saying, everyone has a right to be entertained by what entertains them -- but maybe we've reached a point in society, with fuel on the down-curve of history, that maybe cars should be kept for travel, not sport. just my simple opinion. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Max_x2 replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 4:54pm |
| Coolness: 33815 | Originally Posted By NATHAN
Honestly, I'm getting tired of the 'this is better than that, so it must be good' argument ... is that what we have to resign ourselves to? Arguing for the lesser of evils? Doesn't seem right to me. Cet argument là fait généralement surface quand ya un manque d'objectivité. Fesser pour fesser, n'importe quel idiot peut faire ça. Peut-être que pour toi, c'est plate. Mais c'est pas le cas de tous. Moi j'aime ça regarder la F1. C'est un sport dans lequel le bolide et le pilote ne font qu'un. Sans compter toute l'ingénierie derrière les "voitures". Pi honnêtement, j'pense pas que la F1 pollue au point de nuire à la planète. Mon argument tournait autour de ça. Pour les viols pi toute... C'est la première fois que j'entend parler de ça. Mais plus de monde = plus de crimes; ça, c'est plutôt évident. J'pense pas qu'au ratio, se soit si différent des autres évènements qui attirent les foules à Montréal. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 5:59pm |
| Coolness: 166460 | Originally Posted By MAX_X2
Cet argument là fait généralement surface quand ya un manque d'objectivité. Fesser pour fesser, n'importe quel idiot peut faire ça. Peut-être que pour toi, c'est plate. Mais c'est pas le cas de tous. Moi j'aime ça regarder la F1. C'est un sport dans lequel le bolide et le pilote ne font qu'un. Sans compter toute l'ingénierie derrière les "voitures". Pi honnêtement, j'pense pas que la F1 pollue au point de nuire à la planète. Mon argument tournait autour de ça. Pour les viols pi toute... C'est la première fois que j'entend parler de ça. Mais plus de monde = plus de crimes; ça, c'est plutôt évident. J'pense pas qu'au ratio, se soit si différent des autres évènements qui attirent les foules à Montréal. J'ai jamais dit que c'n'était pas chill d'écouter des courses, ou d'apprecier le 'sport'. J'dit tout simplement que c'est du guaspillage jusqu'à un certain point, plutot parce-que ce n'est pas nécéssaire dans la vie (et oui, comme beaucoup d'autres choses). C'est pas du ''fessage pour fesser'', je back mon opinion avec des faits et statistiques, et j'en apprend aussi! Et je ne parle pas non plus de ''nuire à la planete'', je parle du fait que quand il n'aura pu de Gaz pour personne, il va avoir du regret d'avoir guaspiller autant. Anyway, t'as autant le droit d'aimer le F1 que j'ai le droit de trouver ca louche. Les moments 'visceral' donc tu parle se retrouve dans autres sports, autres activités. J'ai le même 'feeling' qu'un pilote a avec son voiture quand j'mixe avec le gear de DJ ... J'comprend que tu justifie quelque chose qui t'interesse, mais j'aimerai mieux que tu me dit que tu t'en calisse des faits que d'essayer de dire que mes points sont invalide. Pour les cas de viols, 'scuse mais ce que tu dit est un peu insensible. On peut pas dire que 'c'est ça qui est ça, le crime monte quand il y a bcp de monde' alors too bad .. fuck man! J'doute très très fort que le Festival De Jazz attire les genres de douche-jock-musclé-bourré-de-testerone-pas-d'valeurs qui vont aggresser des femmes. Si les faits stipule que les cas de viols montent de 95% seulement pendant le F1, pourquoi tu t'ostine? On sais très bien que ce n'est pas les p'tits Quebecois qui écoutent la course à télé qui font c'est conneries là, alors tu n'as pas à être defensif. I don't even know why you're arguing with me on this. I think that racing cars is a fucking waste, but if you enjoy car-racing, fine! That's your prerogative. Enjoy it while you can! 'Cause the way shit is going, there won't be any cars racing, or do anything, in a few decades. (and if you tell me that oil is not finite, then this conversation is over ;) ) |
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| Good [+4]Toggle ReplyLink» MelooDie replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 6:08pm |
| Coolness: 248340 | Originally Posted By MAX_X2
Pour les viols pi toute... C'est la première fois que j'entend parler de ça. Mais plus de monde = plus de crimes; ça, c'est plutôt évident. J'pense pas qu'au ratio, se soit si différent des autres évènements qui attirent les foules à Montréal. Penses-tu que les femmes victimes de viols s'en vantent et que ces données de viols sont *publicisées* dans les medias? ta logique à 2 cennes, + de monde + de viols... please. Si on t'écoutait, ce serait la même chose pour les Francofolies, le Festival Juste Pour Rire, Festival de Jazz... Non. C'est vraiment spécifique au week-end de la F1. Je vais pas m'obstiner avec toi, moi je n'ai fait que relater les faits que les hopitaux , à chaque week-end de la F1 ont des taux ÉLEVÉS de viols , et non les gens en parlent pas , pcq ca ferait de la mauvaise presse à l'événement. Nathan t'as répondu plus vite que moi mais vraiment Max X 2... pas fort ton affaire. Ya plus de monde, normal que le crime augmente ? Dans le 95% aussi ya des protituées by the way, qui se font battrent. C'est une occasion d'affaire pour elles aussi.. qui tourne souvent au cauchemar. Et by the way, OUI c'est super mauvais pour l'environnement. C'est pas pcq tu aimes un événement que tu dois jouer à l'autruche... |
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