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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire replied on Mon Jan 24, 2011 @ 10:39pm |
 Coolness: 66640 | good to hear |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Mon Jan 24, 2011 @ 11:22pm |
 Coolness: 108745 | I want to hear many genre in a somewhat ordained chaotic order in cycle so I can have fun and dance to some parts, enjoy other while sitting and the parts I can't wait to end won't last too long.
The genre I personally miss are Speedcore and Liquid Funk but I enjoy thoroughly a rave with a wide variety of genres. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» raisinlove replied on Tue Jan 25, 2011 @ 12:07am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Jan 25, 2011 @ 11:03am |
 Coolness: 76650 | Breakcore and dubstep most certainly aren't the same thing, but some of the first dubstep was done by IDM and breakcore artists. A lot of Venetian Snares' "Rossz Csillag Allat Szuletett" album (the suicide album) is in a sort of half-time step that resembles the current dubstep swing and roll rhythm (not sure how else to describe it but it's a heavy quarter note swing), particularly his remix of "Gloomy Sunday". Of course the album is totally different from anything else but it has the feel. But I'm not going to even suggest I really know where it first turned up, all I know is that was how I first connected the two.
As for glitch, one of my classmates was the so-called inventor of the style (Tomas Jirku) and I don't believe that it's relevant anymore. It's essentially a style of minimal tech crossed with IDM, with more of an experimental feel to it. Fennesz, Oval, that kind of thing... really haven't heard anything new in years and I think it sort of got absorbed as it became easier and easier to create. Honestly if you like glitch just go to improv EA shows kids. That's where that shit's at. But just don't make any noise or wear whistles and horns to the events, they're sort of for intellectual snobs. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Tue Jan 25, 2011 @ 4:33pm |
 Coolness: 129660 | Dude that is the biggest load of horseshit I have ever read,
Your classmate didn't "invent" glitch I'd honestly be surprised if anyone in the electronic community even knows or cares who you are, you've released a total of 3 songs (which all suck from what I heard on facebook), and to top it off you're unsigned and have no management. You should rename yourself "LukeInvisible" lol.... |
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| Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX replied on Tue Jan 25, 2011 @ 5:41pm |
 Coolness: 88580 | Dude that is the biggest load of horseshit I have ever read,
That's only because you don't read your own posts |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Tue Jan 25, 2011 @ 5:46pm |
| Coolness: 129660 | No, its mainly because it is a load of horse shit,
Next he'll be telling us his uncle invented IDM while taking a shower in 1992 |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Tue Jan 25, 2011 @ 6:09pm |
| Coolness: 76650 | I understand that you are somewhat enraged at me and feel the need to try anything in your power to try to get at me, but it really won't work. I went to school with Tomas Jirku, that's a fact, and you are a butthurt baby who's throwing an internet tantrum. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Tue Jan 25, 2011 @ 6:25pm |
| Coolness: 129660 | He went to school with Thomas Jirku, honestly dude I'll take your word on it ;)
Was that the highlight of your career? Lol... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fishead replied on Tue Jan 25, 2011 @ 8:59pm |
 Coolness: 75610 | Originally Posted By BLISSS
Dude that is the biggest load of horseshit I have ever read, Your classmate didn't "invent" glitch Jirku's done some rather phenomenal work, but the first time I heard the term 'glitch' being bandied about was well before he was around when Coil released their "Worship the Glitch" set on the Eskaton label... this was released in '95... and is a mostly ambient release with tracks reportedly built around sounds that occurred when things went wrong in the studio... it doesn't necessarily connect with what we think of as glitch today, but it's the first time I remember hearing the term associated with music. Going back earlier there are a ton of old 80s mixes 12" mixes that have some pretty fucked up bits built into the track that sound pretty damn glitched out (the 'electrode mix' of Alien Sex Fiend's Ignore The Machine provides a good example - as does the structure shattering breakdown towards the end of New Order's Dubvulture.... which sounds like a cd skipping)... Markus Popp's Oval project is something else to look at... as he worked a lot with skipping cds... but, for me, the seminal work on that field is the Evolution Control Committee's little known Compact Disctructions package (a binder containing images on notes on the playability of cds after they'd been vandalized... it also included a cassette of interesting results, and a random cd for you to experiment with... not sure when it was released, but I made use of techniques he shared with me on my 1994 cassette-only release Necrophilia Victim's Hotline by The Bastard God)... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Tue Jan 25, 2011 @ 9:09pm |
 Coolness: 148125 | bliss, t'es cassé raide là
arrete dont calisse 2 mins de chercher la marde. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» KounteSs replied on Tue Jan 25, 2011 @ 11:03pm |
 Coolness: 39355 | ouin guys stop fucking arguing all over the fucking [ rave.ca ] no one care about your personal arguments kthxbai |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» pencapchew replied on Tue Jan 25, 2011 @ 11:41pm |
 Coolness: 35530 | Originally Posted By LUKEPERIL
Breakcore and dubstep most certainly aren't the same thing, but some of the first dubstep was done by IDM and breakcore artists. A lot of Venetian Snares' "Rossz Csillag Allat Szuletett" album (the suicide album) is in a sort of half-time step that resembles the current dubstep swing and roll rhythm I saw Venetian Snares maybe 5 or 6 yrs ago at the S.A.T.... what an amazing talent, one of Canadas best idm/breakcore artists for sure, does anyone remember that? That place had a serious sound system, way b4 the dubstep explosion, I saw Squarepusher there too, bass so low you can't breathe or keep your balance, Squarepusher fucking mindblowing live set and Luke Vibert wow! Thats what I want to hear, venetian snares, squarepusher or aphex twin! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fishead replied on Wed Jan 26, 2011 @ 12:19am |
| Coolness: 75610 | Originally Posted By PENCAPCHEW
I saw Venetian Snares maybe 5 or 6 yrs ago at the S.A.T.... what an amazing talent, one of Canadas best idm/breakcore artists for sure, does anyone remember that? That place had a serious sound system, way b4 the dubstep explosion, I saw Squarepusher there too, bass so low you can't breathe or keep your balance, Squarepusher fucking mindblowing live set and Luke Vibert wow! Thats what I want to hear, venetian snares, squarepusher or aphex twin! Blackmarket put on the Venetian Snares show at the SAT... crazy night. c64 from Toronto played, as well as David Kristian, Blake and myself... Na brought Snares back to town (along with Fanny and Tense) for Zygote a few years ago... but I think the show he did at Casa del Popolo in late '02 was probably the craziest one I've seen out here - never seen that many people rammed into that place. Vromb and Blackmarket were also on the bill for that one. Squarepusher at the SAT (which was for the grand opening of the St. Laurent location), was a good night... if I recall correctly - Chris Clark and Plaid played there that same weekend - which was also a pretty ridiculous show. For a while there was a core of people actively working to build up a base for idm, but it seems like it never caught on like it could have... was brilliant when the Flexout crew brought in [ End.us ] and the Sonic Terror posse... it really felt like something could happen... just never took hold. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» HamishTheMack replied on Wed Jan 26, 2011 @ 8:42am |
 Coolness: 37960 | So Thomas Jirku didn't invent glitch? Calisse :( |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice replied on Wed Jan 26, 2011 @ 10:31am |
 Coolness: 76195 | id like to hear more brodub artists |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» raisinlove replied on Wed Jan 26, 2011 @ 11:11am |
| Coolness: 62890 | Originally Posted By FISHEAD
Blackmarket put on the Venetian Snares show at the SAT... crazy night. c64 from Toronto played, as well as David Kristian, Blake and myself... Na brought Snares back to town (along with Fanny and Tense) for Zygote a few years ago... but I think the show he did at Casa del Popolo in late '02 was probably the craziest one I've seen out here - never seen that many people rammed into that place. Vromb and Blackmarket were also on the bill for that one. I remember that show :D |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Wed Jan 26, 2011 @ 3:40pm |
| Coolness: 76650 | Tomas Jirku in fact did not invent "glitch". I said "so-called". The reason for that being that he got a lot of credit for it becoming more popular. He did glitch house, and that caught on well. The first Mutek was all about glitch. Who knows who invented it... Jirku was part of the Mille Plateaux label that released "Clicks and Cuts", and you know, I'm sure the rumours I heard came from those guys in their hipster days.
I was talking to a friend who was also referencing Coil, but also brought up Vladislav Delay, Basic Channel, Sutekh, and Thomas Brinkmann, a lot of whom are considered minimal techno overall, but used a lot of glitchy elements like record pops or digital errors to create interesting effects. I kind of find that stuff ubiquitous now. Fidget House has elements of glitchiness and so does most popular dubstep. I think it has to do with being able to work at higher sampling rates and with higher resolution, plus most DAWs allow better micro-editing so a hemisemiquaver retrigger is not as hard to incorporate. It sounds like a glitch but stays in the time signature. What's a hemisemiquaver you say? A word I've been dying to use in a sentence. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mutante replied on Thu Jan 27, 2011 @ 12:29am |
 Coolness: 76120 | i still have that Coil vinyl, it says it havent been touched by any human hands... until i did.
masterpiece btw ( lots of Coil records are masterpiece anyway ) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WhiteLight replied on Thu Jan 27, 2011 @ 3:20am |
 Coolness: 50320 | Yeah, as said, glitch is older than Jirku's music. Some of the older IDM and (real) industrial is actually glitch music. Coil is a good example of the first forms of glitch music (but you could look even earlier with the first experiments with tapes, music concrete in general too).
The aesthetics of glitch music as been mixed with lotsa differents genres. Drill'n'Bass and Breakcore are often very glitchy in nature. Ambient, and IDM are also very influenced by glitch music (and in my opinion, the difference between IDM and glitch can be very blury). And there's still lots of glitchy music, it's just not always as experimental...probably because we have heard what totally abstract glitches sounds like and it gets boring fast (or becomes noise). Really liking how Glitch-Hop is developping at the moment. Would love to see it get bigger in Montreal when the dubstep trend will die and bass lovers are gonna look for something fresh. As for something new with a more glitch purist attitude: Yeah, real glitch is for geeks. |
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