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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Fri Oct 1, 2010 @ 8:17pm |
 Coolness: 108830 | so I'm tweaking on an open source mixing program and adjusting virtual knobs and sliders saps my creativity when I shift into troubleshooting mode, having fun into getting things done. I see DJs have peripherals linked to their laptops that I suppose interface with mixing software which allow you to either use it with the traditional interface (mouse/keyboard) or through that (peripheral). the problem is I don't have much money and much less mixing experience, I'm just looking for something to toy around, perhaps it'll turn into something serious, perhaps not, so something very basic that's upgradable or something easily resalable without much depreciation would seem like good choices.
it would preferably function with a free (as in money) or free (as in hippy) software. ideally it would also function on GNU/Linux but as a windoze license came with my system @.@, if it only run on that I could live with it. thanks!  |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Oct 1, 2010 @ 9:43pm |
 Coolness: 685615 | most of the ones I know of have drivers specifically for Mac or Windows, but I'm certain there should be some open source drivers if you really dig around..
[ www.moogaudio.com ] should give you an idea of a lot of the "main" midi controllers used for DJing.. the only bitch is I think most of them now only come with USB as an interface, so you'd really need proprietary drivers to run it.. but if you can find some with some standard MIDI ports, then you'd just need a MIDI interface/sound card with MIDI ports that's compatible with whatever OS you plan on running.. The easiest, though, IMO, would be to just go with the Windoze version; less fucking around, and "it just works"  |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Fri Oct 1, 2010 @ 10:09pm |
| Coolness: 108830 | My main concern was about the software the device was linked to, the driver was secondary (have I expressed myself incorrectly in the OP?), so can you give me tips about that?
The moog link you provided seem to fetch in the lower prices around 200$, I was hoping there would be ones around 100$ also expecting to have limited capabilities, emphasizing in the OP that it's for toying around; unless the 200$ ones have a much higher resell ratio. Or if the real basic version really suck and it have quite a short use, perhaps I could borrow/rent one? I have never used such things and don't even know how good/interested I'll be in mixing... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Oct 1, 2010 @ 10:34pm |
| Coolness: 685615 | software wise I have no idea of anything open source.. I've heard of some, but no idea off the top of my head what would work.. Most hardware comes with at least an entry-level version of software for it (sound cards with "light" versions of Cubase, ProTools or Ableton, and these things usually with Traktor LE) so that shouldn't be a problem, and that's also what adds to the price (by roughly 70-80$ I'd say; Traktor LE is Traktor DUO with the effects disabled, and Traktor DUO is about 110$)
[ www.moogaudio.com ] <- is 110$, doesn't come with software, but it's a fairly decent "starter" box; it's got a mixer/EQ, faders for the pitch, Play/Cue and Nudge buttons (the Nudge takes the place of the wheel you see on more expensive gear - instead of turning a wheel forward/backwards to simulate speeding/slowing down the record, you use buttons to do the same) All you'd need then is some software, and I'm sure you can find a decent Traktor torrent to use while figuring out if it's something you'd want to really get more into and buy a legit version of down the line! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Sat Oct 2, 2010 @ 8:54am |
| Coolness: 108830 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
All you'd need then is some software, and I'm sure you can find a decent Traktor torrent to use while figuring out if it's something you'd want to really get more into and buy a legit version of down the line! Are those peripheral drivers usually come with a standard software protocol or do you have to hope the driver come with enough software plugins that your preferred software will be included? Then hope the updates will keep being compatible with a sufficient number of plugin or will it end up doing like most hings: have full-fledge options at the beginning as it's a priority project then as it become less and less of a priority, drop less popular options (plugins for less popular softwares). If there's no peripheral software protocol, will moog or another local store allow me a few days to try it with my software? Perhaps the peripheral I'll get will end up only functioning with an obscure software not available on torrent and with a low quality-price ration ; so shifting the price from the peripheral on the software, just like some eBay item have very low item price but very high shipping cost. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sat Oct 2, 2010 @ 12:02pm |
| Coolness: 685615 | Usually the knobs/faders/etc work with MIDI, it's just that the machine itself, being USB-only, requires it's own driver to run, but nothing should be removed functionality-wise, though some of them (like the Vestax controllers) might be tricky to assign the programing to, since they have extra features that are specific to one brand of software.
Touching the platter on the Typhoon for example, depending on the pressure of your touch, will act like you're physically touching a record in Traktor, and the light under it will change colour to let you know how hard you're pressing on it. Getting that functionality to work in, say, Virtual DJ, requires a ton of trial and error, figuring out the MIDI CC codes that control that isn't easy, though I'd imagine that they've figured most of it out by now, since I only looked that up a few months ago.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Sat Oct 2, 2010 @ 12:53pm |
| Coolness: 108830 | I understand that most parts of such peripheral will be compatible with most software (made for this kind of peripheral) and that only certain complex part of them could be difficult to connect to the software. Just like complex keyboards/mouses will likely have the traditional part function on default drivers and if I want the complex part of it to be functional, I will need to install the specific driver and software ; but even if I loose the cd, most of it will be functional anyway so I don't have to bother too much about it.
Now that the technicalities have been mostly sorted out: Does someone have a used entry-level mixing peripheral that I could get for a good deal or loan me for a few bucks? Or a mid/high-level for a very good deal. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sat Oct 2, 2010 @ 1:40pm |
| Coolness: 685615 | finding THAT is gonna be the tough part |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Sun Oct 3, 2010 @ 8:40pm |
| Coolness: 108830 | After downloading the new version, I noticed the program I use support MIDI:
[ www.mixxx.org ] Experienced DJ?
Mixxx supports advanced features like comprehensive MIDI controller support, vinyl control, and multi-core CPU support. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Oct 3, 2010 @ 8:56pm |
| Coolness: 685615 | so yeah all you'd need then is a controller that's MIDI.. most of them are/should be, though like I mentioned, they're almost all USB devices now, so you need the proprietary driver for it to be detected, but once the system detects it, it shows up as a MIDI device and sends/receives as a standard MIDI controller. |
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