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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Sun Sep 19, 2010 @ 8:17pm |
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In the early and mid-1990s, music-thumping, densely packed all-night raves -- dance parties -- in Vancouver were largely underground, unlicensed and unpoliced. But by 1998, says a veteran RCMP drug officer, raves were becoming mainstream, they had security and they were largely alcohol-free, although illegal drugs -- ecstasy, GHB and methamphetamine -- were common. As raves rose in popularity in the late '90s and early 2000s, first Vancouver and then Richmond licensed the events in an effort to bring them above ground, RCMP Sgt. Scott Rintoul said. There was little violence, he said, because rave drugs didn't induce that type of behaviour. But over the last 12 years, Rintoul noted, "the rave scene has really died off. ... It's no longer what it used to be." There are some exceptions, such as the large, popular Shambala Rave in Salmo. In Vancouver, there are still large raves a few times a year at the Pacific Coliseum. He said the same types of drugs are still found at today's raves, but there are also copycat drugs and new drugs such as ketamine, and alcohol is much more prevalent, creating conditions for potentially toxic mixing of substances. There have been several fatal overdoses at local raves in recent years. Rintoul said it was unclear whether last weekend's notorious party in Pitt Meadows, which was billed as a rave, truly was a rave. Police say a 16-year-old girl was gang-raped at the event. It certainly wasn't licensed and regulated the way raves were earlier this decade, and that's a trend. Rintoul said larger raves are increasingly being replaced by smaller "bush parties" with few rules. "It's no holds barred. There is no security today. There is no police presence. It is participant beware," he said. Rintoul stressed that teens should avoid using drugs and alcohol, and watch their drinks to make sure they are not spiked. "My concern today is the increased risky behaviour" people engage in when using drugs. "They are using more than just the one, and that is problematic because people do dumber things." Vincent Parker, a 26-year-old who began organizing raves eight years ago, agreed the rave scene has changed a lot over the past decade. In the late 1990s, Parker said, while the drug ecstasy was widespread at raves, the parties had a community vibe with little violence. "It used to be something for dancing," he said. "But it was co-opted a long time ago by a bunch of people who are more interested in the druggie element. ... It's been driven by hard-drug use for a while." Parker said raves are increasing organized by "sketchy" people "who aren't necessarily doing it for the right reasons." As well, he said, the rave scene has moved out of the cities to smaller towns and rural areas where there's less police oversight. Parker said he and his friends have long left raves behind and are interested now in promoting concerts for bands. Nathan Messer is president of the board of directors of Dance-Safe, a non-profit U.S.-based organization with volunteers who have been running harm-reduction booths at raves with information about drug safety, safe sex and other health issues since 1998. Until a few years ago, Dance-Safe worked hand-in-hand with a similar Vancouver group. Messer said that in the U.S., and he believes also in Canadian cities such as Vancouver and Montreal, raves are still popular, but are now held in clubs or art venues. "If you think of a definition of a rave as un-permitted in an old warehouse, that hasn't happened for a long time," he said. "There is a lot less underground parties." Messer said the venues for above-ground raves might be safer today, but there is increased danger from the new, untested drugs that are replacing ecstasy. "We don't know a whole lot about the substances that are being sold as ecstasy right now," he said. Is Vincent Parker a sell out? Do only sketchy people promote raves these days? We're raves better in the late 90s? Discuss... | |
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Br34th3 replied on Sun Sep 19, 2010 @ 8:29pm |
1- who?
2- not "only" but a lot of recent "promoters" can't be taken seriously 3- that's very subjective and personal, for me... yes, but things were different back then. I'd have to say its a lot like comparing apples and oranges. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Sun Sep 19, 2010 @ 8:35pm |
Vincent Parker, a 26-year-old who began organizing raves eight years ago, agreed the rave scene has changed a lot over the past decade. In the late 1990s, Parker said, while the drug ecstasy was widespread at raves, the parties had a community vibe with little violence. "It used to be something for dancing," he said. "But it was co-opted a long time ago by a bunch of people who are more interested in the druggie element. ... It's been driven by hard-drug use for a while." Parker said raves are increasing organized by "sketchy" people "who aren't necessarily doing it for the right reasons." As well, he said, the rave scene has moved out of the cities to smaller towns and rural areas where there's less police oversight. Parker said he and his friends have long left raves behind and are interested now in promoting concerts for bands. I present Vincent Parket | |
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Good [+4]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Sun Sep 19, 2010 @ 11:56pm |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» a.POSFORD replied on Tue Sep 21, 2010 @ 8:49pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Choda_Bean replied on Tue Sep 21, 2010 @ 11:24pm |
Good [+3]Toggle ReplyLink» JamesBrown replied on Wed Sep 22, 2010 @ 11:35am |
Hilarious.
And, indeed, the rave sure is sketchier when ketamine & GHB are more prevalent than MDMA. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed Sep 22, 2010 @ 7:47pm |
Originally Posted By JAMESBROWN
Hilarious. And, indeed, the rave sure is sketchier when ketamine & GHB are more prevalent than MDMA. GHB makes peoples sociable and horny, ketamine makes peoples into bumbling vegetables. Ill take sociable and horny peoples over bumbling vegetables any day. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Wed Sep 22, 2010 @ 7:50pm |
Originally Posted By DATABOY
Ill take sociable and horny peoples over bumbling vegetables any day. wtf are you doing posting on ravewave all the time, then??? | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed Sep 22, 2010 @ 7:55pm |
lol
...in party's. On forums i find the bumbling vegetables sometimes entertaining. Like that guy in the convenience store falling all over everything... [ www.youtube.com ] But believe it or not, not everyone on ravewave is a bumbling vegetable. A lot of the peoples here are quite funny and interesting. What is reeeealy sketchy and dangerous though is mixing ghb and ketamine. | |
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» cjbsexx replied on Thu Sep 23, 2010 @ 5:06pm |
Underground parties happen almost every week in Montreal... This article is BS. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Rakoon replied on Thu Sep 23, 2010 @ 5:11pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Thu Sep 23, 2010 @ 6:53pm |
Originally Posted By RAKOON
Journalists still make articles about raves? I was about to post the same thing. :) Seriously, that journalist must've been either very desperate, lazy or on the verge of getting fired. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» HighdroXy replied on Fri Sep 24, 2010 @ 4:14pm |
What is reeeealy sketchy and dangerous though is mixing ghb and ketamine***********88
lol... not realy | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Sep 24, 2010 @ 7:04pm |
I guess sketchy for some is just normal for others. | |
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Good [+3]Toggle ReplyLink» Kire replied on Sat Sep 25, 2010 @ 7:39pm |
ghb ? haven't really seen that thrown down.. K, for sure. iunno maybe they're different in vc cause t.o n mtl raves have a great vibe 'shrugs' maybe to some people its about getting fucked up but personally the love of the music and the energy is what's driven me and my crew to keep coming back.
community and organization is pretty key here as well... personally i don't think the rave scene is dying | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» HighdroXy replied on Tue Sep 28, 2010 @ 5:16am |
community and organization is pretty key here as well... personally i don't think the rave scene is dying*********************************************
me neither, but not as good as it used to be | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AliceInAcidLand replied on Fri Oct 1, 2010 @ 4:03pm |
it goes up and down, I've noticed in the past 3 years.. | |
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Fri Oct 1, 2010 @ 4:53pm |
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