How Big Is The Hard Techno Community Here In Quebec?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Techno_Skandal replied on Tue Feb 10, 2009 @ 3:00pm |
 Coolness: 40280 | As we all know techno is not doing too well lately in America so I am curious to find how many dj/producers, fans and ... are still out there. Especially in the Hard Techno here in Quebec.
I'm one, Yaz, Nivok, Toltech, A_X_Cell,... who else List names, groups,....websites, events.. what ever to have a general idea of the community Update » Techno_Skandal wrote on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 11:29am Na
DeadFunk Jesterrecords Level 4 NoiseFloor prod Techno Fm my conclusion: it is not that big but should be more of. Update » Techno_Skandal wrote on Sun Mar 1, 2009 @ 1:32pm Mr.Bricolage
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown replied on Tue Feb 10, 2009 @ 3:48pm |
 Coolness: 221700 | a local techno / techtrance label !!
[ www.jesterrecords.ca ] !! :) it will be taking a more trancy twist but will still release techno in the near future. there's also, myself : Dj Clown, Octavio Luz (dj and producer), i wouldn't say "Yaz" as a techno guy since he's more of a house producer !! Sarcastic too !! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Techno_Skandal replied on Tue Feb 10, 2009 @ 3:57pm |
| Coolness: 40280 | Yaz use to be in techno as I remember. Didn't have much news about him lately though it's true that he was more on the tech house side. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nodeletesucks replied on Tue Feb 10, 2009 @ 11:05pm |
 Coolness: 55955 | Je suis pas très au courant des Djs de Montréal (sauf pour ceux nommés dans ce topic) mais Mickos n'est pas un DJ de Hard Tek il me semble?
And Jester records rocks your mom. I still HAVE my Rewire CD and still use it :D EDIT : If I remember well, Mattwood does play Techno too, even if now he's going into more minimal sounds. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 5:55am |
 Coolness: 140620 | effectivement, mickos mix de la hard tek... mais mettons qu'il y a un univers de différence entre la hard tek et le hard techno |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 7:57am |
 Coolness: 166480 | ^exact, rawali
moi aussi j'en joue du hardtechno, mais je n'ai presque pas de booking pour ca, c'est toujours juste pour du hardcore... ...i think that not enough people are aware of hardtech; like dave the drummer, ignition technition and all that jazz. it's great stuff! (i play a set of it in the morning once a month on my radio show) there's also Indica, who plays all sorts of stuff, who would most definitely play some hardtechno if asked...heard him do it before, and it was great. all in all i guess there's less than a dozen DJs in MTL that play & own the kind of hardtechno you seem to be looking for Techno_Skandal ... it's scandalous! :P ...at least everyone who plays this style seem to be really good at it :P i love hardtech/hard techno, and agree that there should be more...MORE! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nodeletesucks replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 8:24am |
| Coolness: 55955 | Originally Posted By RAWALI
effectivement, mickos mix de la hard tek... mais mettons qu'il y a un univers de différence entre la hard tek et le hard techno Hard Tek and Hard Techno? There's a difference of genres because of two letters? As I could see, what he calls Hard Tek is what I call Schranz but that's my opinion. Originally Posted By n.a
i love hardtech/hard techno, and agree that there should be more...MORE! QFT BTW : Is Indica more into Electro House nowadays? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Techno_Skandal replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 9:50am |
| Coolness: 40280 | I don't think there is a difference between hard tek and hard techno. Just an abbreviation .. well nowadays you just don't know what is called what. If MC Mario can call his sh..t techno??!!!
"mais je n'ai presque pas de booking pour ca, c'est toujours juste pour du hardcore..." This is what is interesting there is so much interest towards hardcore (btw I like hardcore) This music music can be more irritating than hard tech over a longer period of time just because of the speed 160bpm and up. When I play hard tech at 145 bpm I can get comments like; too hard, too fast or can you play dancing queen... jk :p well there are 2 possibilities; There are more people which like music in the 135bpm & down and 160 bpm & up or people just forgot it which is really possible. We have the Techno Channel Techno.Fm that plays hard techno and want to bring it back also Dj Destro/Marshall and his Noisefloor prod. since last year are trying to bring Techno back. Indica was more in the acid side as I remember |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bassic replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 11:42am |
 Coolness: 128630 | what about Hardtek?
NTK is running strong in Montreal. We have Zone-33 and Moebius that are huge producers. Mutante is huge too but he's more Hardcore/Speedcore. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 12:21pm |
 Coolness: 152940 | HArd techno is around 140-150 bpm usually, like acid tech but without the acid
hardtek is 200-220 bpm usually. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nodeletesucks replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 12:53pm |
| Coolness: 55955 | Originally Posted By DEADFUNK
HArd techno is around 140-150 bpm usually, like acid tech but without the acid hardtek is 200-220 bpm usually. Can I have a link to somewhere I can get a sample of "Hardtek"? The one I got sounded like Schranz. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ZimO replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 12:58pm |
 Coolness: 46705 | I think the op is talking about hard techno > 140-150 bpm gated kick techno
hardtek-tribe is something else 165-180 what we make is a sub genre of hardtek-tribe, between hardtek(tribe) and hardcore so 180-200 bpm with hard kick-bass. faster then that its hardcore, frenchcore, speedcore etc.. :P |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 12:59pm |
| Coolness: 152940 | ask the ntk crew, i dont really see the difference between their hard tek or frenchcore or speedcore, personally, im not really into this genre.
but there surely are difference. and i dont know what shranz is! the only thing i know is that seismik plays hardtek, and he plays around 200 bpm, and hes great! =) im pretty sure mutante can point us in the good direction! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nodeletesucks replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 1:03pm |
| Coolness: 55955 | Schranz is a style developped in Germany that actually suonds like Hard Techno but...Harder. I consider this genre as a bridge between Gabber and HArd Techno because it's mostly played between 145-160 bpm.
I'm thinking of some artists like Miss Djax, Robert Natus, Peter B, Jon Fleck. Here's an example. [ www.trackitdown.net ] I know that on Trackitdown, they classify it as "Gabber Techno" Toltech mixes some as I can see. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 1:11pm |
| Coolness: 152940 | ok, that seems to be an "in between" both genres
but hard tek is faster that that! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 1:33pm |
| Coolness: 166480 | yeah, the hardtek/hardtech thing is annoying. But here it is, although it's alredy been kind of explained:
Hardtek has French roots, between 170 and 200 bpm, is less distorted than typical hardcore at that tempo, and tends to have a 'galloping' fell like Tribe...Hardfloor is also a derivative of those styles. I think the distinction is made 'cause hardtek is fast but bouncy and dry, more like sped up techno than hardcore. (though i lump hartek in w/ hardcore, seriously, the difference is subtle, and i think the labeling of it as a different style is more cultural than musical) Hardtech is more like that British sound, dave the drummer etc., 135 to 145 bpm. Hard techno is a little more general...shranze is a little harder and faster, even borrowing some elements from powernoise imo (but i just discovered shranze recently) Hardcore, for me, is also very general. it's anything from 1 to 1000 bpm, as long as it's distorted and hard. It then gets broken down into terrorcore, gabber, speedcore, breakcore etc. depending on influence, origin, tempo, and obvious traits (like D'n'B in breakcore, and big epic synths in gabber). Personally, i hate sub-genres, and it's all hardcore to me :P ...and though hardtech is more techno, it's all in the family... and yeah, Indica was more acid, and industrial before that...now he'll play whatever (guess he plays electro 'cause that's what peops want to hear), an all around type DJ. From what he told me recently, he has close ties to the Liberator crew and all that hardtech/hard acid scene, and i've hear him do some solid hardtech sets...but if he comes across this thread, i guess he can answer for himself :P granted, i might be a little wrong on some of this, it still remains a question of opinion in certain cases, and the origins & traits of such quickly growing, and mutating, music tend to blur easily... :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Techno_Skandal replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 1:47pm |
| Coolness: 40280 | so this is from Wikipedia
La Hardtek (contraction de "hard" - "dur" en anglais - et de Tek ) est un genre de musique électronique se situant entre la techno et le hardcore. Ces productions se situent principalement entre la Techno Tribe voir Techno Tribale et le hardcore et sont caractérisées par un battement par minute élevé, généralement compris entre 160 et 220 BPM. Le kick - correspondant à peu près à un coup de grosse caisse de batterie - est omnipresent et marque en général chaque temps. Le tout généralement agrémenté de samples tirés de films ou dessins animés connus ou encore d'extrait de journaux télévisés traitant des sujets de l'actualité politique et sociale. C'est en France, puis en Italie et en République Tchèque, que les productions ont été les plus nombreuses. Parmi les plus gros producteurs, beaucoup sont issus de sound system français, tels que LSDF, Teknocrates ou Heretik System. Le DJ Benoît Castandet (Bordeaux, France) est un des acteurs de la scène hardtek le plus en vue. Boudée par la plupars des activistes des débuts du mouvement des free party au début des années 2000, la Hardtek ne définit pas un genre de musique électronique mais regroupe plutôt un grand nombre de productions difficilement définissables du fait du mélange des genres qu'elles contiennent, entre la réelle Hard-Techno du début des années 1990, la musique Techno Tribe des free party et le hardcore. Voir aussi [modifier Update » Techno_Skandal wrote on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 1:58pm Yeah I guess it is all what people want it to be... really hard to have a solid answer. So hard techno/Hard Tech from 140 to 220bpm and let's leave it at that :P Update » Techno_Skandal wrote on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 2:13pm there are noticible sonic elements and timbers that will define it to be Harh Tek, hardcore, gabbar,... and sometimes it so combined that it's just hard to say. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Wed Feb 11, 2009 @ 6:28pm |
| Coolness: 152940 | well, there Is a difference to be made, if dave the drummer comes in montreal to play "hard techno" and spins at 200 bpm, everyone will be really dissapointed... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Techno_Skandal replied on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 10:25am |
| Coolness: 40280 | Yeah I agree Update » Techno_Skandal wrote on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 11:10am I made a typo in the hard tech it was suppose to be hard tek. Hard Techno should stay between 135 to max 150bpm. I'm happy to have started this post kuz it gave me a good idea of the whole image. + it helped my got some things clarified. Thanks guys for your input |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Thu Feb 12, 2009 @ 11:35am |
| Coolness: 140620 | hard tek, prounced with a french accent de pédé, see: [ jamieatlas.files.wordpress.com ]
hard techno, pronounced with an english or german accent |
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