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Iphone In Canada
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Tue Nov 6, 2007 @ 11:36am |
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The iPhone comes with a cost for Rogers Carrier would have to revise wireless pricing plan if it aims to bring Apple's coveted multimedia device to Canada CATHERINE MCLEAN TELECOM REPORTER November 6, 2007 The iPhone will hit Europe this week, and at prices that are likely to put pressure on Rogers Communications Inc. to cut its cellphone rates if it wants to be the carrier that eventually brings the popular device to Canada European carriers will offer service plans that start at the equivalent of $70 a month. A rough calculation based on Rogers' current fees for its existing cellphone services indicates that similar features are more than double the price here, based on the cheapest plan. With some other data plans for Rogers' cellphones, customers could rack up bills of hundreds, or conceivably thousands, of dollars. The data price gap could set the stage for intense negotiations between Toronto-based Rogers and Apple Inc., which designed and markets the popular multimedia phone. Apple was able to wring substantial changes from carriers in the United States and Europe. Apple wants to see the iPhone reach millions of consumers, and high rates in Canada could interfere with that goal. Speaking from the point of view of users, Dawood Khan, a partner at wireless management consulting firm Kazam Technologies Inc., said: "You can't be counting in the back of your mind how many megabytes you use." The iPhone hype is alive and well in Canada. Just yesterday, the Apple store in Toronto's Eaton Centre said it is working on removing some iPhone workshops that its website said were scheduled for November. An employee blamed a server error. Last month, Molson pulled the iPhone from a marketing contest in Quebec after it mistakenly said the device will be available in January. So far, Rogers has had little to say about pricing. On timing, it says the launch plan is in Apple's hands. "Apple clearly has a schedule and a plan for their rollout on a worldwide basis," Robert Bruce, president of Rogers' wireless division, said last week. It could be that Apple, based in Cupertino, Calif., is focusing on bigger markets for now. But wireless carriers in the United States, Britain and Germany had to adjust their packages of services to get the opportunity to sell the coveted iPhone. So the phone's arrival in Canada may not be entirely up to Apple. Rogers may have to make concessions, either by slashing data prices or finally embracing the idea of WiFi for cellphones. There's a reason carriers are willing to make such adjustments. The iPhone is the most talked-about cellphone in history, creating instant buzz around a carrier's brand. Time magazine just crowned the iPhone the year's best invention. New York-based AT&T Inc., which launched the iPhone in the United States on June 29, recently posted its biggest gain to date in third-quarter wireless subscriber additions. So far, 1.39 million iPhones have been sold south of the border. Britain's O2 Ltd. and Deutsche Telekom AG's T-Mobile in Germany are next up, slated to introduce the iPhone on Nov. 9. But to secure the iPhone, carriers have had to do things a bit differently, including ceding some power to Apple. According to news reports earlier this year, New York-based Verizon Communications Inc. passed on the iPhone because Apple wanted to restrict the places where it would be distributed and also asked for a cut of service fees. Carriers are used to bossing around the device makers, telling them what features to add. Apple changed that relationship, deciding for itself how to design the cellphone/Internet device/music player. AT&T spokesman Mark Siegel figures his company worked with Apple for 2½ years before the iPhone finally arrived on its shelves. He wouldn't give details about those talks. With companies that introduce the iPhone, the biggest change is the way services are bundled. At AT&T and O2, voice minutes and data services are packaged together for one flat price, instead of forcing users to cobble together different plans. T-Mobile combines a plan with cellular data and WiFi hot spots for the first time. And the rates for these plans are very appealing. The new iPhone plans are "very clear, very straight," said Alexander von Schmettow, a spokesman for T-Mobile. If they are a success, he believes they could provide a "hint" of what its other wireless plans will look like in the future. With the iPhone, Rogers would also have to warm up to the idea of letting people access WiFi hot spots on their cellphones. Rogers now offers a few business-targeted devices that allow people to use both cellular and WiFi networks, but other high-profile WiFi cellphones from the Nokia and BlackBerry brands are missing from its product lineup. WiFi, with its flat fee for Internet use, could cannibalize more lucrative data revenue from Rogers' cellular network. Shutting off the WiFi function on the iPhone, however, doesn't appear to be an option. Rogers many decide to follow AT&T's example and charge an extra rate for WiFi access on the iPhone, instead of including in the package like O2 and T-Mobile, Mr. Khan said. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» puresexmegs replied on Tue Nov 6, 2007 @ 1:55pm |
 Coolness: 48875 | Rogers is not and will NEVER get iphone. This coming straight from Rogers mouth.
We got the itouch instead |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Wed Nov 7, 2007 @ 6:10pm |
| Coolness: 509705 | indeed, I'd love the iPod touch, if the HD weren't so friggin useless (16gb? yeah right) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» puresexmegs replied on Wed Nov 7, 2007 @ 6:59pm |
| Coolness: 48875 | the htc touch phone is pretty sweet and sounds way better then the iphone
Theres are SO mANY things with the iphone that are wrong on a business and consumer standpoint |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente replied on Wed Nov 7, 2007 @ 9:42pm |
 Coolness: 299470 | the iphone is useless in Canada since there are no unlimited plans |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Wed Nov 7, 2007 @ 11:40pm |
 Coolness: 201370 | well that's the whole point, they would have to change their plans.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Thu Nov 8, 2007 @ 12:50am |
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the htc touch phone is pretty sweet and sounds way better then the iphone Theres are SO mANY things with the iphone that are wrong on a business and consumer standpoint Elaborate please? Such a blanket statement with nothing to actually back it up. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» puresexmegs replied on Thu Nov 8, 2007 @ 10:35am |
| Coolness: 48875 | the fact that the battery is only good for up to 360 charges but considering how easily the battery drains if you use anything besides the regualr phone calls, and that when the battery dieds after 360 charges you cant just easily buy another one you have to send it BACK to the manufacteur to have another one put in and it costs around $100, then you also have to pay a monthly service fee to apple, and the screen can freeze quite frequently.
wow awesomesauce Rogers has an unlimited plan , my boyfriend is on it. i work at Rogers and see alot of corperate users with unlimted plans Theres no difference between the i[hone and itouch in practicality but in quality and price the itouch wins |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Mon Nov 12, 2007 @ 6:44pm |
| Coolness: 509705 | Sorry to say it but the battery BS is nothing more than BS. The battery works just like any other battery that size and power, and the whole recharge cycle is true for any battery, it doesn't magically stop working; simply after many many recharges, it isn't capable of holding the 100% charge anymore. I've had my cell phone for two years now and I need to charge the battery once a day or it dies, why would people expect more from the iPhone is beyond me.
As far as replacing the battery yourself, no you can't pop the old one out and pop the new one in, but with a tiny little bit of effort, you can make the switch yourself for under 50$, I've done it with my iPod that people were complaining about so much. By the time that needs to be done, the warranty will be long over anyway... I don't know about the freezing tho, haven't heard of that... and can you give some details about the unlimited plan from Rogers? Isn't it like 150$ or something? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» puresexmegs replied on Mon Nov 12, 2007 @ 7:27pm |
| Coolness: 48875 | Id have to check the prices at work, but Im on vacation so that wont be for awhile but i believe its around 120 but 50% for the first 5 months and No contract I do know though.
Concerning the battery life. actually i head this straight from macintoshs's mouth its not something they want public sized and i normally wouldnt say anythin but considering i dont believe people from rogers scan "rave" forums I dont have an worries of jeopardizing my job. At precisely 360 charges it will die and you will have to bring it in to macintosh this is different then the ipod. Dont assume just because its the same manufacteur that it is the aexact same in many characteristsics of itself. as well as the fact that you haver to pay a msf to macinstosh on top of uyour wirelesss provider fees is bs. but i would love to come up with where you get that you know everything and that macintosh and cingular[at&t] who provded the phone and rogers and myself who was there at the conference meeting with macintosh are wrong Cell phones dont genreally have a certain battery life and it verys on how you take care of it and what kind of battery it is can tell you a slight quality but dosnt give you to any degree macintosh during the meeting came upfront with the pros and cons to it and rogers felt that as a business stand point this would throw or turn customers off and declined the offer The warrenty is 1 year and it was told to us that it would need to be replaces within the first 6-9 months variing on the type of usage but since no one would buy the phone to use it just as a phone to have it needing a replacement after the warrenty is unrealistic There are many phones out there that have lasted over 5 years, i seen it every day at work while some last 6 months but apple has come with a specific amount of charges so whatever you can argue on whatever reasons you want but your wrong and thats that |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Tue Nov 13, 2007 @ 3:29pm |
| Coolness: 509705 | I'm looking for solid references right now but I can tell you straight up that no battery that doesn't have memory could possible 'stop' working after a certain number of charges. Besides, Rogers is f'ing dumb if they think the iPhone would be a bad move, AT&T broke all their records in the first month after releasing the iPhone, in Germany, 02 sold 10000 iPhones during the first day which was said to be 'the highest selling product ever in any of their stores'.
OK So here's some common sense to anyone who knows about lithium ion batteries Q: I heard that the iPhone can only be charged 300 times and then the battery dies. Is that true?
A: No. Lithium-ion batteries are good for 300 to 500 charge/discharge cycles. Some interpret this as meaning that if an iPhone is charged daily, it could need a new battery in as little as 300 days. That is incorrect. First, a partial charge does not represent a full charge/discharge cycle. For example, if an iPhone's battery level is at 75% and it is charged, that can be thought to account for a quarter of a single discharge cycle. Second, a lithium ion battery gradually degrades; it will not simply stop functioning after a certain number of cycles. Apple's official position is that the battery will retain 80% of its life after 300 to 400 cycles. After a certain point, some customers may begin to feel it is time to consider battery replacement. However, for many customers, that time will not come for at least two years or more, at which point many customers will already have purchased a new handset. For others, battery replacement options are available. source: [ www.ipodbatteryfaq.com ] more info: [ www.apple.com ] here's some more PWNAGE on your behalf: Q: What kind of battery does the iPhone use? A: The iPhone uses a lithium ion battery, as do nearly all mobile phones and portable devices. Dissassembly by iFixit reveals that iPhone uses a 3.7V 1400 mAh Lithium Ion Polymer battery, with manufacturer part number L1S1376APPC, and Apple service part number 616-0290. Dissassembly by Think Secret reveals a similar 3.7V 1400 mAh Lithium Ion Polymer battery, but with manufacturer part number P11G59-01-S01 and Apple service part number 616-0291. The differences, if any, between these batteries are not known at this time. Q: How long does the iPhone battery last? A: The iPhone specifications state: * Up to 8 hours talk time * Up to 250 hours standby * Up to 6 hours internet use * Up to 7 hours video playback * Up to 24 hours audio playback A press release has some additional information and comparisons about iPhone battery life. Q: I heard the iPhone battery "only lasts 40 minutes." Is that true? A: No. This rumor came from John Dvorak, who openly admits to trolling Apple users to get attention for his articles. He provided no proof, and cited an anonymous person at Cingular who claimed they were testing the phone. iPhone, like many other products in its class, other similar smartphones, and so on, uses a standard lithium ion battery. While manufacturers routinely state battery life specifications under optimal conditions, reviews have found that actual battery performance under good conditions is not significantly different from what Apple has already stated in the specifications. How wrong am I now? P.S. Cell phones dont genreally have a certain battery life and it verys on how you take care of it and what kind of battery it is can tell you a slight quality but dosnt give you to any degree
Cell phones don't generally have a certain battery life?!?!? Yes they do!!! What are they magical ever lasting gobstobber batteries? MY CELL PHONE's battery is but 2 years old and it can't hold a charge all day, how is that ANY different from facts about the iPhone battery (which ISN'T any special kind of battery, it's lithium ion just like ALL cell phone batteries. Update » AlienZeD wrote on Tue Nov 13, 2007 @ 4:38pm It's not a matter of right or wrong, it's a matter of information. Rechargeable batteries wear... |
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