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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Wed May 24, 2006 @ 10:06am |
 Coolness: 50970 | oh hey basdini, what COULDNT you look at on the net over there? and what would happen to you in a regular case and worst case scenario...? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Wed May 24, 2006 @ 10:25am |
 Coolness: 92265 | I never saw the MK Ultra experiments being disputed, in fact it was probably on CBC news as soon as the whole thing blew over. I didn't know it had connections with project paperclip though, but maybe they would have done that stuff regardless of who was working for them?
What's interesting is that the idea of psychological warfare far pre-dated Hitler. Well I assume that that's obvious anyway, but Hitler read a series of books on conquest throughout history and how the various invaders convinced their own people that the supressed or invaded people's were the enemy, and he gave Moussilini those same books to read. They discovered it was easy and that it marks pretty much every invasion and it's the same shit that Bush and maybe even Harper are pulling right now. So this type of thing, this psychological warfare as you call it, is something beneficial for any one of us to study I'd think, every one of us except the government. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Wed May 24, 2006 @ 10:32am |
| Coolness: 50970 | yeah in fact, and i'd LOVE to find a copy of this, they blew some of this wide open on CBC's show the 5th estate back in 1984. good luck finding a copy of THAT online though.....the canadian connection being dr. ewen cameron and what he did at the allen memorial institute. he apparently recieved hundreds of thousands of dollars of funding from the canadian government over the years. some victims of his have been compensated since then, i think...
and yeah the concept of psychological warfare dates a long way back before hitler...i think i heard of nero being interested in it.. one thing though, that i saw somewhere which totally shows hitlers propensity for psychological warfare is the V2 rockets that he blitzkreiged london with for weeks and weeks on end. he had WHISTLES installed on the rockets so you could hear them coming before the explosion. so every time the populace heard a whistle, it incited massive panick and terror and they knew they were gonna get hit...if that aint psy-warfare then tell me it aint psy-warfare...... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Wed May 24, 2006 @ 6:27pm |
 Coolness: 150460 | The Luftwafee were also known for using psychologicial warfare by attaching sirens to Junkers Ju 87 dive bombers. This was first used -I believe when the Nazi's were providing weapons to Franco's army- in the city of Guernica.
This tactic was also adopted by the U.S Airforce. In the 1950's in Guatemala, the CIA would use Jet fighters to fly over towns and villages and use radio transmissions making citizens believe there were huge liberation forces, to frighten them. It can make one go... Banana's! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu May 25, 2006 @ 12:37am |
 Coolness: 145200 | Originally posted by MORPHINE...
oh hey basdini, what COULDNT you look at on the net over there? and what would happen to you in a regular case and worst case scenario...? i just have to be careful cause they monitor internet traffic pretty carefully, if they felt like i was some sort of shit disturber/trouble maker, they might deport me... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Fri May 26, 2006 @ 10:53am |
| Coolness: 145200 | kinda killed that thread dudes... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri May 26, 2006 @ 1:17pm |
| Coolness: 50970 | Transcription: Cathy O'Brien's Presentation
Mind Control A Presentation to Justice Pro Se by Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien June 4, 1996 Livonia Civic Center Library, Livonia Michigan transcribed from tape by Peter J. Celano -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cathy O'Brien speaking: I'd like to thank Justice Pro Se for having Mark and I come in and speak to all of you, and I'd like to thank each and every one of you for coming out here this evening, to arm yourselves with information on a tool that is being used to usher in what Adolph Hitler and George Bush term "New World Order," and that is mind control. You have a right to know and a need to know these secrets that the perpe-traitors* in control of our country have been controlling all of us by for far too long. Knowledge is our only defense against mind control. *(Transcriber's note: Cathy distinctly says, "Perpe-Traitors". It is also a term that is used repeatedly in their book.) I know I am extremely fortunate to have survived my CIA MKUltra mind control victimization. I know I am extremely fortunate to have survived to this point, to be able to relay this information to all of you. Many government secrets and personal reputations were staked on the belief that I could not be deprogrammed to remember those things that I was supposed to forget. They were wrong. They never considered the strength of the human spirit. They never considered what would happen when a good man like Mark Phillips found out their secrets and used them for good: used them for the betterment of humanity, used them to restore a mind and a memory, rather than to destroy one and control one. Now that I am in control of my own mind, and ultimately my free will, I'm telling all that I've witnessed and experienced behind the scenes as a White House/Pentagon level mind controlled slave. I know that my victimization was extreme, and I certainly am not interested or intending to traumatize you with the information of my victimization. Instead, I want to provide you a comprehensive understanding of the components of mind control, and what the plan is for controlling all of us in this world dominance New World Order effort. Many government secrets and personal reputations are now being revealed. Much is coming to light in society today, because people all across this country are beginning to ask questions as to why has our country been eroding morally and constitutionally. Tonight, this information is intended only to provide you with detailed answers, so that you can be far more effective in this ongoing effort to take back our country. These perpe-traitors in control of our country have operated on the belief that secret knowledge equals power. The more we tell their secrets, the more their power erodes, and the better our chances are for effectively taking back our country. These people that have been in control of our country for far too long are extremely intelligent, yet they don't think deep. They are limited in their thinking by their own immorality. That's where we all have the edge on them. They never counted on good people all across this country to spread information in any means available, and it certainly isn't through our controlled medias. Information has to be spread word-of-mouth, through meetings such as these, as this one is tonight, that are occurring all across this country, through shortwave radio, through various radio stations and public television. There are ways for each of us to get the information out. There are ways to spread the secrets that they would not want you to know. As you hear this information tonight, please bear in mind that we are all enduring a mind war. They refer to it as "psychological warfare." Mind control is a psychological warfare weapon. Because it is psychological, we must deal with it in a logical manner, and that's exactly what they aren't counting on. What they want all of us to do is to hear this kind of information, become hysterical, become emotional, and listen to all the "hate crimes" that are being built up in our controlled medias, and start shooting at each other. They would like nothing more than for everyone to be confused as to who the problem is, and for all of us to end up shooting at each other, instead of logically taking this information, seeing how it effects us, seeing how it has affected us from various aspects of society, and take careful action in an ongoing effort to take back our country. When the people lead, the leaders follow. I'd like to begin by giving you a very comprehensive understanding of mind control through my own victimization. Although my victimization is extreme, it certainly is no more horrific than what is happening in society today, from the erosion of our constitutional values, to the drug wars being brought to our streets, to all the horrors that we are enduring through such things as Waco, Ruby Ridge, the Oklahoma City bombing. Instead, by giving you this information on mind control, I hope that each and every one of you will have a much better understanding of exactly what is going on in our country. I was born in 1957, in Muskegon, Michigan, to a multi-generational, incest based family. My father had been sexually abused as a child, my mother had been sexually abused as a child, and they were sexually abusing me. As far back as I can remember, my father was sexually abusing me. And I've often heard them brag that he began substituting his penis for my mother's nipple while I was still an infant. This confused my primitive sexuality. It put it into an area of pure survival. It was the same, to me, as eating and drinking. It was for this reason that I was targeted as a sex slave in the MKUltra project. Another reason that I was targeted is because in multi generational families, as the Hitler/Himmler research discovered, and as has certainly been elaborated on since then, was discovered that when a person endures trauma that is literally too horrible to comprehend, the mind's sane defense to that kind of trauma is to compartmentalize the memory of that event in a certain portion of the brain, so that the rest of the mind... (lost about 5 seconds here.) ..."Dissociative Identity Disorder," as it is now termed. It used to be called "multiple personality disorder," but that was not an accurate description of exactly what really is going on. (Unintelligible) the compartmentalization of memory. I developed a memory compartment to deal with my father's abuse. The part of my brain that dealt with my father's abuse would actually open up. The neuro-pathways would actually open up to a part of me that dealt with my father's abuse could deal with him again and again and again, as needed. That part of my mind was closed off behind that amnesic barrier, and I would function absolutely free of any memory of that horrific abuse. I really had no place to put such horror anyway. It's not that what my father was doing was morally wrong, that I comprehended. I was just a little bitty kid. There was no way I could know that it was morally wrong. But, instead, I endured the pain and the suffocation of his abuse. The government understood, from a study that has long since been (unintelligible), that this compartmentalization of memory should prove ideal for keeping their perverse secrets. Behind these amnesic barriers in the memory compartment is a photographic memory, because the mind photographically records events around these traumas. Most people know exactly where they were and what they were doing when John F. Kennedy was assassinated. This is an example of how the mind photographically records events surrounding trauma, because that was an event that traumatized the whole nation. This kind of photographic memory certainly had the interest of the government, because they knew that Dissociative Identity Disorder children, such as myself, were highly suggestible and could be easily programmed photographically to deliver messages, as it were. In my case, since I had been sexually abused, I was used as a sex slave, and therefore my suggestible mind was programmed to carry out and fulfill perversions of certain politicians who did not want their perversions known to the rest of the public. They truly believed that their secrets would be kept secret forever. Had I not been expertly deprogrammed, I would not ever have been able to think to tell you about what happened, and what I witnessed, as a White House/Pentagon level mind controlled slave. I developed another compartment in my mind to deal with my mother's psychological abuse. My mother suffered from Dissociative Identity Disorder, or Multiple Personality Disorder, as it was known back then, as well. This is why I don't really hold her responsible for her actions, but, nevertheless, she was extremely psychologically abusive, and the effects on me were devastating. I felt that, I developed another compartment to deal with my mother's psychological abuse. I developed another memory compartment to deal with the pornography that my father was subjecting me to. My father had a sixth grade education, and earned his living as a worm digger, and supplemented the family income with proceeds from child pornography. The child pornography that he was subjecting me to was also being manufactured by my mother's brother, my Uncle Bob Tanis, also of the Muskegon, Michigan area. Uncle Bob was part of the Air Force Intelligence, and also claimed to have been working for the intelligence arm of the Catholic Vatican, the Jesuits. My uncle Bob was heavily involved in the manufacture of pornography at that time. When my father made a pornography film with me and my uncle's dog, Buster, which was a kiddy porn bestiality film, they were caught sending this child pornography through the U.S. mail. When this happened, my uncle Bob Tanis came to him and explained to him that there was an operation going on here in the United States called MKUltra. He told my father that if he would agree to sell me into the CIA's MKUltra mind control, that he could receive immunity from prosecution. My father thought this was a great idea. He thought that the government actually condoned child abuse. He went on to have five more children to raise in the project. There were seven of us in all. At that time, the child pornography that was being manufactured was being circulated through the local Michigan Mafia pornography ring. Also at that time, a certain criminal faction of our government was sanctioning this kind of child pornography, because they were interested in finding out which children were being used in the pornography; which children could be targeted for mind control, because they knew that if a child was abused prior to the age of five, before their minds and brains could be completely formed, that they were far more receptive to mind control. Therefore, a certain faction of our government was interested in mind control experimentation and use, that actually were covering up the Mafia's child pornography ring. Once my father agreed to sell me into the CIA's MKUltra project, we were visited by the head of the local Michigan Mafia pornography ring - or rather the politician that was covering up all of these kinds of perverse crimes in our area. His name was Gerald Ford. This is the same Gerald Ford that went into the office of President. Gerald Ford came out to our house, and he explained to my father how to raise me in the project. He explained to him how to manipulate my subconscious mind, because since I couldn't consciously comprehend the horror, (I mean, where in the world would I place something so horrible in my mind anyway?) I was functioning on subconscious level. The subconscious mind does not comprehend - does not question or reason or rationalize things that it is told. Information that is fed in is readily accepted, through either hypnotic language, language of the subconscious, or neuro-linguistic programming, as it is officially called. My father called it "reverse psychology," and he was immediately flown off for a two week course on what he termed "reverse psychology" in Boston, Massachusetts. When he came back, my victimization became much more horrific, because of the information and the knowledge that my father had learned. My father began applying what he had learned, and in his attempt, he was attempting to scramble fantasy with reality, so that what was happening to me would seem like it was just happening in a dream, or it was just a storybook, or something that wasn't real. It was much easier for me to believe something like that than to actually have to deal with reality, that my father was so perverse, and the abuse that I was enduring was actually being condoned and sanctioned by a criminal faction of our government. At that time, my father had been instructed to take me to Mackinac Island, Michigan. Mackinac Island, as I am sure most of you are well aware, is located between the U.S. and Canadian border, in essence, and it's where the Michigan Governor's Mansion is located. It is a political retreat, where politicians from all over the country meet and discuss their political agendas. At that time, the governor of Michigan was Governor George Romney. It was my experience that Governor Romney was interested in implementing mind control into various aspects of society. He truly believed that mind control was a necessity in society. He believed in the kind of mind control that I was being subjected to. He also believed that bringing mind control into the school system would be very beneficial for teaching children greater amounts of information. The Michigan Education System ranked first in the nation for quite some time during those years. It was actually a forerunner of global education, or "Outcome Based Education," as it is now called. This was one area that I was aware Governor Romney was particularly interested in. It was also in Mackinac Island, Michigan, that I was subjected to the perversion of Gerald Ford. Gerald Ford had been sexually abusing me for a long time anyway. It is not that he was a typical pedophile, like another one of my abusers was, but instead it was more that he was interested in traumatizing the minds in sexual abuse so that he could gain control. He's what I refer to as try-sexual. He'd try anything, with anybody, any age, any time, anywhere. It didn't matter. What mattered was the perversion of power. Another one of my abusers at that time was then Michigan Senator, later U.S. Congressman, Guy VanderJagt. Guy VanderJagt was an absolute pedophile, and had been sexually abusing me for quite some time. Unlike Gerald Ford, he did not abuse me throughout my victimization. He did not abuse me through the Reagan/Bush administration, and when that reached into adulthood. Instead, he was sexually abusing me as a child, and preparing my mind for mind control, and for the role that I would be forced to participate in, in this MKUltra project. I'm telling you these names, not because I think there's any kind of glamour in being sexually abused by politicians. Really, quite the contrary. I've named names in our book, "Trance Formation of America," in order that you know exactly who and what is in control of our country, and for what purpose. I realize that here in Michigan many of you are familiar with these names. There has been a deliberate smoke and mirrors illusion created to fool the American population into believing that their "New World Order" effort is an effort toward world peace of some kind, when in fact it is a world dominance effort that has been in motion for quite some time. It was in Mackinac Island, Michigan, that I first learned some of these components of New World Order mind control, and other aspects of mind control victimization. Since I was being traumatized, I was photographically recording conversations, and I learned how people such as myself, with Dissociative Identity Disorder, were considered prime candidates, or "chosen ones," for mind control. Not only because of the compartmentalization of memory, but also because when a person is so traumatized and operating through these various compartments, they have no memory of events that had occured previously, and therefore they don't know to be tired, and endurance is increased tremendously in a person suffering from Dissociative Identity Disorder. Likewise, a person develops 44 times visual acuity. I believe it is an effort to see things before they happen, in an effort to see the trauma before it actually occurs, and the eyes are open wide, and it's as though the victims develop eyes in the back of their heads. 44 times visual acuity means that a person so trained would be able to shoot and never miss their mark. They would never miss their target, because with that kind of visual acuity they are far more apt to be able to see and to aim and to shoot, and therefore Dissociative Identity Disordered persons were targeted themselves for mind control for military operations, for military intelligence, mercenary operations, paramilitary operations, and espionage. I was never trained in that particular area because I was being raised as a sex slave. I was being raised to carry out and fulfill the perversions of certain politicians in control of our country. And they certainly didn't want someone who was being prostituted to politicians to even know how to shoot a gun. I also learned at Mackinac Island Michigan about the Catholic's involvement in mind control. Now this is certainly not to say that all Catholics are bad. Not any more than I'm saying that all CIA is bad. I've since learned that seems to be a criminal faction running through most aspects of our society, and it was my experience, having come from a predominantly Catholic area and being raised a Catholic, that I was subjected to the Catholic aspects of mind control. At that time, then Prime Minister of Canada, Pierre Trudeau, who claims publicly to be Jesuit, was very much interested in mind control, was interested in mind control of the masses. He was a part of that intelligence arm of the Vatican that was interested in becoming the one world church in the New World Order. I heard many conversations pertaining to how criminal covert activity is going on in this country and around the world, would be funneled through the Catholic Church and designated immune, for implementing what Adolph Hitler and George Bush term "New World Order." It was around that time, 1966 to be exact, that I made first communion at our local Catholic Church, Muskegon St. Francis de Salles. At that time, Father Don was the head of our church, and was bringing mind control in on a mass scale. I'm sure many of you all know the Catholics have been sued for vast amountsof money for child abuse proliferated in the church. And this is one reason why. In 1966, after I made my first communion, I was subjected to what was termed "The Rite To Remain Silent." That's R-I-T-E, as in ritual. And I was subjected to an occult ritual. Occultism is of course a reversal of the Catholic Mass, and this was in keeping with that "reverse psychology" that my father learned. This was in keeping with the language of the subconscious, and this was in keeping with the incomprehensible. At that time, VanderJagt came in and joined Father Don in exposing me to a blood trauma that was so horrific to me that it just blew my mind. When this happened, they used the hypnotic language, the language of the subconscious, to manipulate my subconscious in such a way that I lost control of my own switching processes at that time. In other words, that compartmentalization that I was talking about, like where I had that compartment that would deal with my father's sexual abuse, as needed. I no longer had the ability to switch into that compartment that dealt with his abuse. I completely lost that ability with the "Rite To Remain Silent." Instead, they placed a series of hypnotic codes, keys and triggers in place of my natural switching mechanism, so that they could decide when, where and how that particular compartment of my brain could be accessed. That way, when I was programmed later on with specific government messages, and with specific perversion that I was forced to carry out, that they would decide when and how it would be accessed, by using those codes, keys and triggers to access that part of my brain. After this "Rite to Remain Silent," I no longer heard voices in my head, which really was my own voice, because I used to make decisions by pulling from different compartments and perspectives of my brain, and trying to forumulate a decision by |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Jun 5, 2006 @ 3:34am |
| Coolness: 145200 | this interesting
From Richard Overy's book 'The Dictators' 2004 Penguin Books, p214 "The pervasive idea of conspiracy, on which repression rested, had its roots in patterns of popular belief that existed before the dictatorships. In Germany fear of the extreme left as enemies of the state (reichsfiende) can be traced back to the 1870s, perhaps even earlier. Modern forms of Anti Semitism as world conspiracy were widespread through out Europe from at least the 1890s, and sharpened in the 1920s with the popular identification of the jewish threat with the revolutionary menace of soviet Communism. In Russia a popular political culture of suspicion and conspiracy, of un masking the 'other' long predated 1917 and was taken up and dressed in communist garments for the war against counter revolution. Hitler and Stalin were thus representing political conflict in ways which had clear resonance. The conspiracy theories that underlay repression were distorted projection of pre-existing patterns of social and political prejudice." All this to say that conspiracy is real and it is often used as a tool of manipulation of the masses by the elites to control thought and behavioral patterns to their own perverted and vile ends...Remember he who controls history controls the world... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» m4xom4x replied on Wed Aug 16, 2006 @ 10:25pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Fri Aug 18, 2006 @ 8:26am |
| Coolness: 145200 | here i found this and just about pissed myself laughing
off of [ screwloosechange.blogspot.com ] can't believe what I read! Here are the rules for finding the 'truth,' which the 'Truth' people seem to follow: Rule #1: The Government conspirators cannot offer any defense, no matter how logical, reasonable, scientific, or even common sensical, because any evidence that they present to debunk the conspiracy is part of the conspiracy (after all, they're conspirators... if they can conspire to conspirate, they can conspire to deny conspirating). Axiom #1: The conspiracy is truth; Anyone who claims that they aren't part of a conspiracy... is part of a conspiracy... especially if they're a known conspirator. Right? Of course. How else could they all deny involvement and wrong-doing in unison, unless they conspired to cover up the conspiracy? Rule #2: Anyone who says that 9/11 was a government conspiracy is correct, intelligent, noble, upright, and a praiseworthy seeker of truth... that is, until their statements are proven false, in which case they were never really trying to expose the true conspiracy, but merely were working on a disinformation campaign mounted as part of the conspiracy, as a 'straw man' tactic to damage 'THE CAUSE.' Axiom: The Conspiracy is true; Anything that we once believed about the conspiracy, but has been proven false does not damage the credibility of the conspiracy, because we never believed that untrue stuff... only the true stuff about the conspiracy. The presence of evidence that debunks aspects of the conspiracy should NOT, under any circumstances be interpreted to cast doubts on the reality of the conspiracy and the truth of it's proponents; Instead, it should only be interpreted to illustrate that the conspirators are actively working to undermine the cause of spreading the truth about the conspiracy, by spreading false information about their conspiracy, while claiming to be conspiracy theorists, and then debunking their own false conspiracy theories about their true conspiracies, in order to discredit their detractors. Rule #3: George Bush (the ring-leader of the conspiracy) is evil. Everybody knows that. He must be... because we wouldn't hate him so much if he was a nice guy! Why? Because we are moral, good, reasonable, liberal, intelligent people. It's not even worth debating! Thus, for someone to debate it, they must be ignorant, duped, moronic, and a 'Bush-lover.' After all, how could anyone support someone who is at the head of such a monstrous and evil conspiracy? Our views are the only objective truth in the universe! To deny them is to assert ones own ignorance and jingoism! One must question authority, because authority is always wrong! It is the mark of an educated, well-adjusted, thinking person to dissent. To not dissent is to become a patsy for the conspiracy. You can't just go along with what people say? They're liars and conspirators. Now, listen to what we say, because we tell the truth about those liars and conspirators. Axiom #3: We tell the truth and they lie. They're lying conspirators. How can you tell that they're evil, lying conspirators? Easy... Bush is their leader. This is so simple! Folks, I've read an intersting description of nearly 150 people with close Clinton connections dying under mysterious circumstances. It's been much publicized by credible sources, like internet chain letters. Leaning to the right, as I do, I'm inclined to believe. Why? Because Clinton is a malefactor... an evil, evil, self-serving devil. Anything he's accused of, I'll be sure he's guilty of. Perhaps you can relate? |
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