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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Jan 24, 2006 @ 10:29pm |
Originally posted by SILVERMOTION...
who gives a damn about what canada says. Canada is way too large and ungovernable anyways. As a province we have unique skills that we should export to our profit. If we want to go in india and send SCN-Lavallin to build airports, and then bombardier to build them planes and metro / trains, its to our advantage, whatever your political compass may point to. Charest is actually doing a good job for this matter, as unpopular as he may be. You're right, a country of 32million is WAY too huge.. Shit, look at China, India, the US.. all WAY bigger by factors of 10.. yet here you are saying we're too big. Right. Tell me, did the Bloc make their goal of 50.1% of Quebec voters? Nope. Makes you wonder, why did Duceppe aim for 50.1% if he's not aiming for seperation.... ? |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog replied on Tue Jan 24, 2006 @ 10:38pm |
because that would have been the first time a separatist party would get 50%+1, and each party want the ideal 50%+1 majority, there's not a lot of situation in Canada where this can happen, especially in a more than 2 parties situation. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Jan 24, 2006 @ 11:32pm |
Well, at least your admitting that the Bloc is a seperatist party.. I've been arguing with some other Bloc supporters who claim they're not, including some of my familly members who voted for them.. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog replied on Tue Jan 24, 2006 @ 11:40pm |
yes, and they proudly say it. But there are not elected to do a referendum or to do the sovereignty. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» I_fucked_IansMom replied on Tue Jan 24, 2006 @ 11:50pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Jan 24, 2006 @ 11:58pm |
Originally posted by MR. FROG...
yes, and they proudly say it. But there are not elected to do a referendum or to do the sovereignty. Yep, instead they're here to divide our country up for selfish reasons. Horray! |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Silvermotion replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 1:16am |
Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...
Originally posted by Silvermotion...
who gives a damn about what canada says. Canada is way too large and ungovernable anyways. As a province we have unique skills that we should export to our profit. If we want to go in india and send SCN-Lavallin to build airports, and then bombardier to build them planes and metro / trains, its to our advantage, whatever your political compass may point to. Charest is actually doing a good job for this matter, as unpopular as he may be. You're right, a country of 32million is WAY too huge.. Shit, look at China, India, the US.. all WAY bigger by factors of 10.. yet here you are saying we're too big. Right. hmmmm, let me reexplain. i meant huge by HUGE TERRITORY, with a VERY LOW population density. Its like trying to govern rocks scattered in the infinite. China has 40+times more population than us, on a slightly smaller territory (in km²), thus is is a country where there is a much smoother gradient of culture. In canada its like a city, then 1000km of nothingness and mountains, then another city with quite different ppl, then anoter 1500km of wheat fields, then another city with again different ppl, then more nothingness, then crazy french canadians, then more nothingness, then newfies. You call that governable? just take a look at the roman empire, it started crumbling when too many different cultures were regrouped under one command. (ill skip the economic factors that also lead to the roman empire demise). Im am definitly not a separatist either, im just seeing things with something called lucidity. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 10:18am |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 10:24am |
What bugs me though, is they try to label themselves as not being one just so they can get more votes.
Several members of my familly voted for them and told me very specifically "No, I don't think they're seperatists".. "they're just trying to help Quebec!" .. bah, totally stupid. Talk about dividing a country. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 10:33am |
Gilles Duceppe often says it they they are a party where all deputies are for the sovereignty, that's nothing new. And it's not because of that position that they can't do anything good or are there to break the Government, they have goals to help Quebec, and, for me, they are the only one that will speak only for Quebec's interests. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 10:37am |
Right, so tell me: What makes the imaginary line between Quebec and Ontario so important that the rights of Quebec over any other province needs to be so well guarded and fought for?
We all live in the same country. Next thing you know we're going to be recruiting a Quebec Army to defend ourselves from the rest of Canada. :| |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ikce replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 10:58am |
What I wonder its why should we agree to the "value" of Canada. When we have ours.
Sovereignty is a freaking subject. J e n'ai aucun sentiment d'apartenance au Canada. Mais j'me sent vraiment comme etant un Quebecois. Ce que je veux dire c'est pourquoi serions nous des Canadien? Nous avons diferente culture (que sa soi n'importe qu'elle des province). Vous pouvez pas le cacher, le Quebec est vraiment diviser du reste du Canada. J'respecte les federaliste, c'est leur choix. Moi j'voudrais que nous soyons une nation. Nos ancetre ce sont fait piler dessus longtemp pour l'obtenir. Et apres 100 ans... qui sais? Peut-etre que la politique nous le permeteras. Mais je cache pas que j'ai peur du Quebec souverain ... |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 11:09am |
WOW, you guys really have to get your heads out of the fifties. Nuclear energy is not even beign considered as a new energy source, and anyone who might be considering is taking a major leap(and an uneducated one) in the wrong direction. Nor is it clean or safe by any means. Welcome to 2006.
HOW IS ELECTRICITY GENERATED USING GEOTHERMAL ENERGY? In geothermal power plants steam, heat or hot water from geothermal reservoirs provides the force that spins the turbine generators and produces electricity. The used geothermal water is then returned down an injection well into the reservoir to be reheated, to maintain pressure, and to sustain the reservoir. There are three kinds of geothermal power plants. The kind we build depends on the temperatures and pressures of a reservoir. A "dry'" steam reservoir produces steam but very little water. The steam is piped directly into a "dry" steam power plant to provide the force to spin the turbine generator. The largest dry steam field in the world is The Geysers, about 90 miles north of San Francisco. Production of electricity started at The Geysers in 1960, at what has become the most successful alternative energy project in history. A geothermal reservoir that produces mostly hot water is called a "hot water reservoir" and is used in a "flash" power plant. Water ranging in temperature from 300 - 700 degrees F is brought up to the surface through the production well where, upon being released from the pressure of the deep reservoir, some of the water flashes into steam in a 'separator.' The steam then powers the turbines. A reservoir with temperatures between 250 - 360 degrees F is not hot enough to flash enough steam but can still be used to produce electricity in a "binary" power plant. In a binary system the geothermal water is passed through a heat exchanger, where its heat is transferred into a second (binary) liquid, such as isopentane, that boils at a lower temperature than water. When heated, the binary liquid flashes to vapor, which, like steam, expands across and spins the turbine blades. The vapor is then recondensed to a liquid and is reused repeatedly. In this closed loop cycle, there are no emissions to the air. WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ADVANTAGES OF USING GEOTHERMAL ENERGY TO GENERATE ELECTRICITY? Clean. Geothermal power plants, like wind and solar power plants, do not have to burn fuels to manufacture steam to turn the turbines. Generating electricity with geothermal energy helps to conserve nonrenewable fossil fuels, and by decreasing the use of these fuels, we reduce emissions that harm our atmosphere. There is no smoky air around geothermal power plants -- in fact some are built in the middle of farm crops and forests, and share land with cattle and local wildlife. For ten years, Lake County California, home to five geothermal electric power plants, has been the first and only county to meet the most stringent governmental air quality standards in the U.S. Easy on the land. The land area required for geothermal power plants is smaller per megawatt than for almost every other type of power plant. Geothermal installations don't require damming of rivers or harvesting of forests -- and there are no mine shafts, tunnels, open pits, waste heaps or oil spills. Reliable. Geothermal power plants are designed to run 24 hours a day, all year. A geothermal power plant sits right on top of its fuel source. It is resistant to interruptions of power generation due to weather, natural disasters or political rifts that can interrupt transportation of fuels. Flexible. Geothermal power plants can have modular designs, with additional units installed in increments when needed to fit growing demand for electricity. Keeps Dollars at Home. Money does not have to be exported to import fuel for geothermal power plants. Geothermal "fuel'" - like the sun and the wind - is always where the power plant is; economic benefits remain in the region and there are no fuel price shocks. Helps Developing Countries Grow. Geothermal projects can offer all of the above benefits to help developing countries grow without pollution. And installations in remote locations can raise the standard of living and quality of life by bringing electricity to people far from "electrified" population centers. |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 11:15am |
And by the way... it would take ALOT of asslicking to get Duceppe over onto Harper's side.. remember, he went publicly and said that if you weren't voting bloc you should NOT vote conservative (as in, vote for block first, then anybody else except the torries) |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 11:15am |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bassic replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 12:49pm |
Sweet, I studied in thermodynamics. But the long term effects of Geothermal energy aren't yet known. You are warming up or cooling down the planet except from the inside out this time...... Greenland uses quite a bit of geothermal energy for heating purposes. Also any house themo-pump can be turned into a geothermal heat pump boosting it's efficiency greatly! |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 1:07pm |
yeah, it's like the Shinra Corporation draining the earth for power, we don't know what it will do! ;) |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BA_Baracus replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 1:39pm |
if quebec separates, what will they name the montreal hockey team?
personally i think thats enuff to keep quebec from separating blocs plan is to have a referendum when its win-able, coming in 4-5 yrs maybe less cuz of harper |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 2:06pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Wed Jan 25, 2006 @ 2:57pm |
No the Parti Quebecois's plan is to hold a referendum when the conditions are ripe for them to win. The bloc va les appuyer, c'est tout.
Referendum = Provincial BS, stop getting all confused....i know B and P sound alike, but trust me they are very different. |
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