Who You Gonna Vote For?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Jun 16, 2004 @ 9:47pm |
 Coolness: 339640 | and btw, how does France vs. England count as an 'American' war exactly? sure they're in america, but other than that.. it's not an american loss. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 12:28am |
 Coolness: 82620 | i think twas quite intellectual. i agree with the matt on this one |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 12:33am |
| Coolness: 339640 | haha, the matt. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 12:36am |
| Coolness: 82620 | Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...
and btw, how does France vs. England count as an 'American' war exactly? sure they're in america, but other than that.. it's not an american loss. well the france only aided the americans. there were more americans, it was on american soil,, and it was an american cause. The only reason the french participated was becaused they saw potential profit in it. thus, it remaions an american war. the AMERICANS were revolting..... geniasssssss |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 12:41am |
| Coolness: 339640 | what exactly made them americans tho? that the french/english were stealing the land from the mexicans and indians....? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 12:56am |
| Coolness: 82620 | pretty much. they found their means throgh the exploitation and murder of millions of innocence. so wat? big deal. been there, done that, and worn the t-shirt |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 1:00am |
| Coolness: 339640 | i think you need more booze. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 1:04am |
| Coolness: 82620 | shuhsh ian. my booze dont pertain to you in the slightest.. go watch another movie behind the reel at the AMC. ya. thats wat i thot. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 9:14am |
 Coolness: 174065 | Anyways back to the actualy purpose of this thread...
just in case if anyone doesn't know what each party stands for here are the party policies: BLOC QUEBECOIS Economy: - Demand federal transfers of about $8 billion each year to the provinces to eliminate so-called fiscal imbalance. - Call for a more generous Employment Insurance program that would reach additional workers while scaling back existing EI surpluses. - Eliminate gasoline surtax. Health care: - Call for substantial federal funding transfers to provinces with no conditions attached. Social: - Abolition of GST on books. - Want $4.5 billion spent on affordable housing over three years. - Demand an additional $2.4 billion annually for international aid. Defence: - See peacekeeping as military priority, not combat missions. - Forbid Canadian soldiers from participating in wars deemed to violate international law. - Refuse to participate in missile-defence shield with the U.S. CONSERVATIVES Economy: - Twenty-five per cent tax cut for middle-income earners, with the long-term goal of pulling Canadian tax rates lower than the U.S. - Provide a $2,000 tax deduction per child for families. - Redirect money from industrial subsidies to lower taxes and research and development. - Hand provinces three to five cents from the 10-cent-a-litre gas tax for road repair. - Lower business and capital-gains taxes and eliminate the capital tax. - Introduce a legislated plan setting targets for national debt repayment. - Eliminate annual surplus in Employment Insurance fund. Health care: - Deliver almost $37 billion in new funding promised under the 2003 federal-provincial Health Accord. - Support a new national drug plan to be negotiated with the provinces. - Maintain the Canada Health Act's guarantee of public funding for necessary services. Justice: - Try violent or chronic offenders over age 14 as adults. - Strip federal prisoners of voting rights. - Registration of all convicted sex offenders so police can monitor their whereabouts. - Stricter standards for releasing dangerous offenders on bail. - Introduce consecutive sentences for multiple violent crimes. - End possibility of house arrest for violent criminals. Defence: - Talk with U.S. about joining North American missile-defence system. - Boost military funding by $1.2 billion immediately, and eventually increase that to $2 billion. Social: - Scrap the current Supreme Court reference on same-sex marriage and let Parliament vote on the issue. - End existing firearms registry and work with provinces on another gun-control strategy. Environment: - Legislate caps on smog-causing pollutants and spend $4 billion over 10 years to clean contaminated sites. LIBERALS Health care: - Promise a 10-year plan with a sustained boost in health transfers to the provinces. - Demand new accountability measures from provinces, like published lists of waiting times for procedures. - Support public funding for medically necessary care but have no policy against private-sector involvement in providing services. Economy: - Use budget surplus to pay down national debt with goal of reducing it to 25 per cent of GDP. - Transfer slice of federal gas tax - or other revenue stream - to municipalities for infrastructure improvements. - Sell off government shares in Petro-Canada and invest proceeds in an eco-friendly technology fund. Social: - Re-establish a national housing plan. - Improve aboriginals' systems of education and accountable government, and ensure clean drinking water on native reserves. - Create an international niche for Canada as a builder of democratic institutions in failed states. - Accelerate transfers from $1-billion Municipal Rural Infrastructure Fund to five-year period instead of the anticipated 10 years. - $3.5 billion cleanup of polluted federal sites, with 60 per cent of the fund to be spent in the North. - Claim support for same-sex marriage but have avoided moving forward with legislation before election. Defence: - $7 billion in capital projects promised, including $2.1 billion for joint support ships, $700 million for mobile-gun system, $1.3 billion for search-and-rescue aircraft, $3 billion for maritime helicopters. - Create an integrated foreign policy where military interventions are tied to aid projects, trade initiatives and diplomatic missions. NDP Economy: - Committed to balanced budgets but not debt-reduction. - Targeted tax cuts for low- and middle-income earners. - Eliminate GST for essential goods. - Transfer five cents per litre from federal gas tax to provinces for municipal infrastructure repair. Health care: - Immediately re-establish federal funding at 25 per cent of medicare costs. - Reverse private delivery of services. - Create national homecare and pharmacare programs and enforce national standards on access to care. Defence: - Improve salaries and job benefits for armed services personnel. - Refuse to participate in proposed U.S. missile-defence program. Social: - Re-establish a national housing plan. - Create national transportation strategy to provide long-term funding and incentives to promote public transit. - Cap credit-card interest rates to five points above prime rates. - Complete support for same-sex marriage. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» beercrack replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 9:26am |
 Coolness: 71410 | i'd vote but i've moved so many dam times this last year i dont even know what electoral list i am on
oh and does anybody know the GReen party platform other than being green thanx |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 4:18pm |
 Coolness: 148160 | The NPD party is speaking of a green economy...what does that suposse to mean ?
Canadian economy base on "green" stuff, like weed and grass and pot...What else is green ? Trolls ? But if trolls hook up too much often with ghouls they become kinda brow-greenish...Very strange reaction of monster simbiose.. Like, if a ghoul chill too much often with a specter he become grey a bit, on toes and hair. wtf ? monsters.... Harper, Martin, Staline...... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 4:25pm |
| Coolness: 82620 | wow that post is priceless. awsome Mickos |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PaT_ replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 5:49pm |
| Coolness: 116270 | nothing,
if i did vote, green. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 8:36pm |
| Coolness: 148160 | I have received a -Parti vert- flyer
It is written "Il est temps d'élire des Verts" Yay for the green giant !! Yay for hulk !! Yay for robin hood !! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Khemlab replied on Thu Jun 17, 2004 @ 8:55pm |
 Coolness: 41365 | Lets clear a few things before continuing...
Free Vote - A Vote in the house of commons that when requested, must be voted on right then and there obviously providing it is part of a bill that ANY MP can put forth. 1 person out of the someodd 300 mps in parliment can have an opinion, and subsiquently... put forth a bill to the house, then request a free vote... and what I didn't mention above was that if passed it can not be appealed. What is this suggnificant? Read forth... And I quote... "We will put the definition of marriage to a free vote so that it is voted upon by the people you elect, not the judges whom the government appoints," he said to cheers from the crowd. - That is a quote from Mr. Harper... What this means... If you are a gay person or have gay friends, and you respect their decission to marry, 1 single MP can put forth a free vote and if passed, your friends no longer that the right to marry. This is a Right protected in the Charter that is upheld by Law. 300 members of parliment are not the Law. They are people with their own opinions. (Yes, this means a member of parliment that may be a biggit, can very well vote yes simply because he may hate gay people, which may have nothing to do with the right to marry) Let the Citizens of Canada decide if same sex marriages should be allowed. Well.. the citizens have spoken already, and that is why THIS right is protected in the charter... Don't let 300 some odd people Change this. The Judges... appointed by the governemt are still Judges that must uphold the law, and there for the Charter that we charrish so much in this county. --- On another note... I feel that yes a lot of Canadians are pissed that the liberals did what they did. That is a fair opinion. But change for the sake of change is not always the best option. And in this case, this change is based on rebelion. And do you really wanna start mixing politics with religion even more so then they already are? I'm not willing to put my life on it. Or the well being of my friends. Also, look at what GOOD the liberals have done for Canada... sure health has sucked the passed years but, the deficiate is now taken care of, and the economy has grown. Now with a growing economy, and a major cash infusing on health care... the economy can grow, and so can the health care at the same time!!! Everyone in life, tends to focus more on what has gone wrong... and let the things that have gone well.. pass by the way-side.. WAKE UP PLEASE!! ---- Another note... Harper said in the debate that the (air)"craft" carriers would be used for helicoptors. 1. We already have ships that can helicopters can land on. 2. Ever heard of the Galaxy? Its a massive Aircraft that can hold like 8-10tanks.. I'm sure it can hold enough helicopters to transport accross seas as needed... at probably 10x the speed! Anyhow... I could go on and on about why I think harper is bad for Canada. But I think I'll stop here........ I'm voting liberal. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» little_sarah replied on Fri Jun 18, 2004 @ 12:59am |
 Coolness: 121415 | NDP
Economy: - Eliminate GST for essential goods. good policy |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» errorizE replied on Fri Jun 18, 2004 @ 2:32am |
| Coolness: 60815 | Go liberals! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Jun 18, 2004 @ 3:15am |
| Coolness: 339640 | I'm going NDP.
"- Cap credit-card interest rates to five points above prime rates. " oh that turns me on.. :D and i dunno why people would vote green, they're nothing beyond their platform, these people could not competently run a government. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Khemlab replied on Fri Jun 18, 2004 @ 7:18am |
| Coolness: 41365 | Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...
I'm going NDP. "- Cap credit-card interest rates to five points above prime rates. " oh that turns me on.. :D and i dunno why people would vote green, they're nothing beyond their platform, these people could not competently run a government. They aren't there to run a government. They are there to get a seat and have their voice heard in the house. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Jun 18, 2004 @ 9:17am |
| Coolness: 339640 | sorry but i'm voting for people who are going to run the government, having a seat in the house is pointless really since one seat out of 301 really doesn't do much. |
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